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Old 05-12-04, 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by rynberg
Bwahahaha, a few hours of work. That's ******* hilarious. You've apparently never seen a v-mount in person.

and you apperently have no skillz!
seriously though if you've got the tools and brain power you could get it done in less than a day.
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Originally posted by yodaddy
and you apperently have no skillz!
seriously though if you've got the tools and brain power you could get it done in less than a day.
Right.

*Select IC core that will work best.
*Develop brackets for radiator.
*Develop brackets for IC.
*Develop custom end tanks and piping for IC.
*Develop shielding for sides of V-mount.
*Reroute power-steering cooler lines.
*Develop brackets for A/C condenser.
*Cut and weld new a/c line routing.

Sure, you can do all that in one day. Go ahead and please post the results. We especially want to see the custom IC endtank and piping fabrication you can do in one day.
Old 05-12-04, 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by rynberg
Right.

*Select IC core that will work best.
*Develop brackets for radiator.
*Develop brackets for IC.
*Develop custom end tanks and piping for IC.
*Develop shielding for sides of V-mount.
*Reroute power-steering cooler lines.
*Develop brackets for A/C condenser.
*Cut and weld new a/c line routing.

Sure, you can do all that in one day. Go ahead and please post the results. We especially want to see the custom IC endtank and piping fabrication you can do in one day.
word . . . I second that
Old 05-12-04, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by cagefreak
word . . . I second that
Ditto. Not only does it make simple common sense that all the fabbing will take hours (I'd imagine a couple hundred hours at that, when you factor in trial and error), and hence the cost of such a setup, but I *think* Rynberg *usually* knows what he's talking about...*maybe* lol Maybe it's the fact that he's one of the veteran "good guys" that has to do w/ it hehe

Also, I'm not sure if it was you Rynberg who said this before, but I remember a post a while back in regards to custom fabbing all your stuff yourself and saving a bundle vs. buying it off the shelf...

You're not just paying for parts. You're paying for engineering, and not just of the individual parts, but of the parts WORKING TOGETHER. You may very well be able to fab some pipes for the radiator & IC that may work, but they may be inefficient (due to tiny things only engineering gurus would understand) causing the system as a whole to never reach it's fullest potential.

Just my $0.02
Old 05-12-04, 09:00 PM
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i beleive it can be done in a day under some conditions

AC will be gone
Pwr steering is gone

use a suitable ic

such as the NPR. It could have allready been mounted so the piping/brackets are not necessary.

Then only thing would be rad mounts, shields, and coolant piping.

I have a pic of a NPR ic that is half way to a V-mount.

Forum won't let me post pics lately
Old 05-12-04, 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by rynberg
Right.

*Select IC core that will work best.
*Develop brackets for radiator.
*Develop brackets for IC.
*Develop custom end tanks and piping for IC.
*Develop shielding for sides of V-mount.
*Reroute power-steering cooler lines.
*Develop brackets for A/C condenser.
*Cut and weld new a/c line routing.

Sure, you can do all that in one day. Go ahead and please post the results. We especially want to see the custom IC endtank and piping fabrication you can do in one day.
good point. i didn't think about the a/c and power steering since i won't have to deal with those. and you can order i/c cores with any endtank design you want. so the only thing left is the brackets and sheilding. also i guess having access to a fab shop helps. i do agree though that if you had to do all of that with limited tools it would def. take longer. but i don't that's why i said a few hours.
Old 05-13-04, 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Scrub
Their is a reason you haven't seen those pictures. From me at least, I was asked specifically not to post pictures of that kind of stuff.
Same here. There are a few pictures, you can find, if you search. Someone posted them when they did his, although I don't know how much you can really see, probably not more than what Chuck shows on his site.

Basically, Chuck doesn't want other companies, using his design to market their own kit.

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Old 05-13-04, 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by PVerdieck
Same here. There are a few pictures, you can find, if you search. Someone posted them when they did his, although I don't know how much you can really see, probably not more than what Chuck shows on his site.

Basically, Chuck doesn't want other companies, using his design to market their own kit.
You're kidding right? After copying all those body panels and other stuff? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. That is one of the funniest damn things I've seen in a long while. Thanks for the good laugh.

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Old 05-13-04, 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by yodaddy
and you apperently have no skillz!
seriously though if you've got the tools and brain power you could get it done in less than a day.
hahaha

Now I see why and where ghetto would tie in with "engineering"
Old 05-13-04, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kevin T. Wyum
You're kidding right? After copying all those body panels and other stuff? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. That is one of the funniest damn things I've seen in a long while. Thanks for the good laugh.

Sincerely,

Kevin T. Wyum
Actually his panels fit better then most of the companies that make them to begin with. This thread isn't about Chuck and his company. However HE did come up with the V-mount setup that he sells. All of the performance parts he makes he has designed. As far as I know Rotary Extreme is the only company in the U.S. that makes a v-mount for the FD. Dont' knock on people products unless you've tried them.
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If I were modding my FD for reliable big rwhp, I'd go with Chuck's monster V-mount (from Rx7 Store)
Originally posted by Scrub
Actually his panels fit better then most of the companies that make them to begin with. This thread isn't about Chuck and his company. However HE did come up with the V-mount setup that he sells. All of the performance parts he makes he has designed. As far as I know Rotary Extreme is the only company in the U.S. that makes a v-mount for the FD. Dont' knock on people products unless you've tried them.
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Originally posted by SleepR1
If I were modding my FD for reliable big rwhp, I'd go with Chuck's monster V-mount (from Rx7 Store)
SleepR1, could you define "big rwhp"? I know Chuck has #s on his webpage... eg. regular V-mount supports 600hp, and the monter V-mounts support 900hp. Based on that, I'd think the regular V-mount would be just fine for a 500rwhp car, correct? Or would that be pushing it/cutting it close?
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Originally posted by FDNewbie
SleepR1, could you define "big rwhp"? I know Chuck has #s on his webpage... eg. regular V-mount supports 600hp, and the monter V-mounts support 900hp. Based on that, I'd think the regular V-mount would be just fine for a 500rwhp car, correct? Or would that be pushing it/cutting it close?
I'd say big RWHP on a 7 is anything above 450 hahaha. We actually did a comparison on the highway (on the way back from Rotary Revolution) and the V-mount was constantly 7-10 degrees colder on the PFC then a large SMIC. I also did not have a vented hood while the other car did.
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Originally posted by Scrub
Actually his panels fit better then most of the companies that make them to begin with. This thread isn't about Chuck and his company. However HE did come up with the V-mount setup that he sells. All of the performance parts he makes he has designed. As far as I know Rotary Extreme is the only company in the U.S. that makes a v-mount for the FD. Dont' knock on people products unless you've tried them.


I think you're missing the point here. It's okay for Chuck to directly copy the designs other people came up with for body panels but it's not okay for other people to copy his designs for other parts? That's quite a double standard. Are you that blind?

Where did you see me "knocking" on anyone's products?

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Anything above 350 rwhp with stock or Japan-spec sequential twins Reliable in that 350 rwhp could be generated even on warm days?
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SleepR1, could you define "big rwhp"?
Old 05-13-04, 01:37 PM
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I'm designing a V-mount for J-rats 10AE RX7. I'm also going to do the same for my 93. It is going to be a few weeks before building begins due to design flaws at the beginning of development. I can keep you guys updated as progress begins. I will also have J-rat take pics of the 93's install and builb when we get there.

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How come you don't talk about your copying the PFS IC?? Double standard? So righteous my ***!

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Originally posted by Kevin T. Wyum
You're kidding right? After copying all those body panels and other stuff? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. That is one of the funniest damn things I've seen in a long while. Thanks for the good laugh.

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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
How come you don't talk about your copying the PFS IC?? Double standard? So righteous my ***!

Chuck Huang
Heh, you think attacking someone makes it okay? What are you talking about anyway? The PFS IC looks nothing like either of mine. If you're talking about the one that looks suspiciously like my large IC then you've got the cart before the horse you over reacting potty mouth . The one you're thinking of was actually a copy of my large IC. I was getting Emails from people back then telling me that PFS was trying to sell one almost exactly like mine to them. In which case you will kindly direct your comment to PFS.

The real question now is whether or not you're going to apologize to me here for your error. I know you're an honorable person Chuck and as such I look forward to your heartfelt apology in front of everyone.

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Old 05-13-04, 06:37 PM
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o man...
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o man...
yea...c'mon guys..knock it off. you're both respected members of the forum, and i know you both know we don't need any added drama lol
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I didn't start this thread to **** anybody off or start an argument. I can see why Chuck doesn't want a lot of pics on the net of his setup. There is no doubt that he put in a hell of a lot of time and money and doing research to find out how to build the best intercooler and rad system.

I'm just trying to do some work myself. I feel better about my car when I do the work instead of buying something off the shelf and throwing it on. I'm not saying that most intercooler kits don't work, it's just that I would like to attempt this on my own. I have some money saved up to buy a core, end tanks, and some piping and my dad's friend can weld pretty damn much anything. From the pics I have seen so far I can probally fab something up. I just want to be sure of it before I start cutting up my koyo.
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Originally posted by esebueno
does it come with a new rad or do you angle ur current one like that? couldnt tell from the site
curious as to what comes with the hks kit myself...
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Kevin and Chuck, can your respective designs be patented, so no one can copy them without paying you guys?
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Originally posted by amp
curious as to what comes with the hks kit myself...
stock radiator.


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