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Old 09-25-06, 04:41 PM
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Smile pics of driving / fog Lights

well the stock headlights are pretty bad so what options are there for bright driving/fog lights.

how do the stock fogs perform?

whats good whats not? HID, halogen? and how is the wiring done on fd w/o foglight switch? does it come on with headlights?

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Old 09-25-06, 06:00 PM
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Have you tried using the Sylvania Silverstar bulbs?
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those work well on my civic!
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Have you tried using the Sylvania Silverstar bulbs?

Thats what I'm using, they are a nice improvement.
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I am running a Philip 6000k HID kit (i think, I can look it up if you want). They are incrediably bright and are very good for driving. The only problem I have with this kit is I don't have high beams. Honestly you dont need high beems with this kit, but I dont know how tough Cali is with inspections. Most places I have experience with dont really care. If you want some pictures I will take some for you.
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Any "new" bulb will likely be better than the original bulbs if you still have them. I still have my original bulbs in, and being 13 years old they are getting dim. haha

The stock foglights barely function as foglights. I consider them more for show.

Suggestions:

1. Aim your headlights.

2. Replace the bulbs (H4) if you are going to keep the stock setup.

3. The Silverstars are a nice option.

4. Try and avoid a plug and play HID system to be kind to the other drivers out there.

5. Consider a set of good auxilliary "driving lights". Keep in mind at night these will likely blind oncoming traffic, but are GREAT on the backstreets If you can find a good set of CATZ driving lights then go for it. Their lights are pretty accurate in terms of their designs with fog lights having a wider beam, versus their driving lights which have a narrower illumination angle. I have a set of their discontinued H4 driving lights and am using an H4 HID system with them, so I expect them to put out ALOT of light at night

CATZ XLD / MSX / XLO / MSR

6. An aftermarket "higher wattage" h4 bulb, but YOU MUST use upgraded sockets and wiring with relays to prevent frying your stock wiring. I had this kind of setup on my old Volvo and it was UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLY bright

7. Aftermarket light kit (sleek with or without HIDs, or the much anticipated (in my mind) 4 light popup kit being currently designed, or one of the MORE expensive JDM kits)



Hope that helps a bit

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Old 09-25-06, 07:59 PM
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I'm using the stock fogs as DRLs runnning them through the stock switch so I can turn them off if I want. The best option I found were the Sylvania Silverstars. Pricey, but.....
I tried some higher watt H3s but even though the fuse didn't blow, they made the wires a little warm and I wasn't comfortable with that.

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Old 09-25-06, 08:02 PM
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^^^ Good advice but you'd be better off looking for a set of PIAA instead of CATZ. CATZ not doing business in the US anymore. If you are looking for a set of CATZ, I have a set of MSX (oval shape) in excellent condition. No nicks or scratches on the lenses and the harness is brand new.
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I have the Sylvania Silverstar bulbs in my car and they are a definate improvement over the stockers. Much brighter and whiter. A good "fix" for those on a budget. I think I paid $35-40 for them.

I also have installed a set of PIAA fog lights to mimick the 99 spec fog lights for my 99 front bumper. I checked into the 99 spec lights but they were way too expensive. Had the PIAAs installed for about $200. I matched the size of them to the 99 specs so they would look right. I have standard bulbs in them (whatever comes with PIAA) and they're very bright. Really light up the road. The PIAAs come with an oval on/off switch that fits perfectly into where the fog light switch would be in the center console. Looks OEM.

Check out my my vb Garage for a pic or two.
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Originally Posted by chinaman
^^^ Good advice but you'd be better off looking for a set of PIAA instead of CATZ. CATZ not doing business in the US anymore. If you are looking for a set of CATZ, I have a set of MSX (oval shape) in excellent condition. No nicks or scratches on the lenses and the harness is brand new.
I only mention CATZ because I am biased.

I bought about 20 sets of CATZ lights as they were going out of business and have been selling them off, giving them as gifts to my friends over the last 2 years haha.

I personally think the light pattern from the CATZ lights is superior to PIAA, but the fact that they are discontinued sucks I would love to have them readily available in the USA/NA market as I think they are FANTASTIC

The MSX is a great light and comes in either a driving pattern or fog pattern. The difference between the two is very very clear.

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