Solomon

Anyone seen what these cars go for? Or do you supply the car, then have them do all the work on it, sounds like they sell the car as a whole?
Britten

cabaynes

iTrader: (4)

you supply the car, and then it's about $30,000 for the entire swap. call them if you're serious.

BoostedRex

The price STARTS at $30K. If you get one like the blue one you saw in the magazine it's well over $30K. I checked on having that done about 8 monhts ago. I talked to Pettit and they were really nice about it, but I just think that they want too much for the package. Just my .02 though.

Zach

Solomon

OUCH! I thought they would let it go for about 20k. Guess it's not bad if you get a blown FD and build up. I mean, they use like all new engine parts don't they?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

It's a complete conversion, 20B swap, fender flares, wheels, suspension, etc... Most people who do a 20B swap spend 15-20k on the swap alone.

Aether

Why is the 20B swap so damned expensive? Wouldn't it be similar to a Honda swap (B18C in a Civic for example) since they are both Mazda?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...threadid=59544

t-von

iTrader: (8)

Yep! If I remember correctly the parts total (engine suspension wheels ect...)was 27k. Then there was a 9k charge for labor to install everything. Thats was at $60 per hour at 150 hours for the total install.

t-von

iTrader: (8)

The Banzai conversion may sound expensive but compared to the Lingenfelter stage 2 upgrade for the Vette, it's actually a bargan. With the Banzai, for 37k which includes labor you get a whole differant engine set-up, complete suspension and wheel upgrade. Were as with Lingenfelter they rebuild the engine with forged internals, slap on 2 turbos and a couple IC's with engine management and charge you 44k. Keep in mind that wheels & suspension would cost you extra. At least with the Banzai you can see were your moneys going.

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

I can't speak about the Pettit conversion specifically, but the PFS 3-rotor swap, for example, has a LOT more work invovled than just a civic swap. Yes, you need engine, tranny, etc. But for it to be a REAL RX7 swap (ie to maintain the 50/50 weight distribution), you dont wanna just put the 3 rotor engine where there is space (leaving it sitting in front of the front axle, disrupting the 50/50 distribution)... you want to have the entire engine sitting behind the front axle

in turn, you pretty much rip out everything from the dash up... firewall, etc, everything. and of course a LOT of other crap has to be relocated to do that.

now that you're moving the engine back, the tranny needs to move back between 4 - 6 inches, which is extensive work in itself (i think the PPF has to be shortened), and in turn, you gotta move the shifter up 4 - 6 inches so it retains it's stock location. so it's a HELLA lot of work

also, you got other things to worry about like the turbo...i know at PFS they threw away the turbos the 20B came w/...and used a big single. w/ that, he had to make a completely new fuel system, and had issues w/ injectors and the fuel pump...

also, getting power to the wheels smoothly and wheel hop were an issue. all in all, i believe they logged 400 hours of labor, which on their old labor rate of $75/hour came out to 30 grand in labor ONLY. that did NOT include buying the 20B and it's associated parts, nor the cost of the car itself, the custom fabriacted parts, the turbo, etc.

All that info I pretty much got from PFS. They have a plaque on the wall from an article that was done about the car... and apparently it's one of the a handful of REAL 20B swaps ever done (maintaining the 50/50 weight distribution)

salamander

What about RX-7 Specialties out of Calgary? US dollar may stretch a bit further.

BoostedRex

salamander, do you have a website or contact info for RX-7 Specialties?? Thanx in advance.

Zach

salamander

Sure. Here it is...

Click here for RX-7 Specialties Website

jimlab

I'd think twice about sending my car out of country if I were you.

bigmack000

want info on rx7specialties go ans search them ans read the thread that were in teh canadian forum. see what every one has to say about them. help you decide maybe.
joel

MakoRacing

iTrader: (12)

I love 20B's, after awhile I want to get one in my 7. When I got that much money to burn anyways...><

jimlab

Then find out what non-Canadian customers have to say about them, if you can, because those reviews will be more important. Most businesses with any sense don't mess with the locals, but it can be a totally different situation when the customer is out of state, or especially out of country.

I don't mean to imply that RX-7 Specialties is out to screw U.S. customers, but from personal experience with a few other Canadian vendors and the ongoing problems that U.S. customers have had with Agostino Racing Engines (a Toronto, Ontario-based company), not to mention the lack of any easy legal recourse should something go wrong, it would be wise to give it some careful thought and research, especially considering the dollar amount.

To be fair, there are businesses that aren't above screwing over people in their own backyards too, and there are perfectly reputable businesses that treat "foreigners" every bit as well as they treat the "locals". But with my experience, better safe than sorry.

bigmack000

true. from what i was told by guys in my city same as rx7spec. i decided not to get my motor built there. not saying they cant do the work but the price was to high for me,and for what i was getting. if anyone is going to get them to do anything talk to them first and the see how much the locals like them the the out of country guys . iam pretty sure if your goin to do a 20b swap they will treat you good becasue its $$$ for them and lots of it.
joel

salamander

However, it should be said that the Canadian market for 20B conversions is pretty small. If RX-7 Specialties wants to maintain their 3 gen business then they have a vested interest in performing good work for a US customer.

HeatTreated

There was an article about RX7 Specialties doing a 20b swap in Modified Mag a few months ago.