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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 01:23 AM
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rynberg, you also forgot the cost of including ignition when going single like plugs, wires, and an amp. Therefore the price would be upwards of 8k and that's not including labor for installation
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by 1FooknTiteFD
rynberg, you also forgot the cost of including ignition when going single like plugs, wires, and an amp. Therefore the price would be upwards of 8k and that's not including labor for installation
Yeah, I knew I would forget something in that list...thanks for supporting my point.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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Well, think what you want, but I think telling someone who just bought their FD to buy a single turbo is doing them a disservice.

I'm glad you got some kind of hook up on your turbo kit. Most cost over $3k for everything.

BTW, since his car is near stock, here's the absolute minimum of what you need to safely run a single:

single turbo kit: $3k+
midpipe: $200
cat-back: $500
fuel pump: $250
larger secondary injectors: $330
Power FC: $1250
Tuning for PFC: $200+
Radiator: $400
Intake filter for turbo: $50
Intercooler upgrade: $1000++
gauges: $150++

That's all I think of off the top of my head. That adds up to roughly $7.5k (and that's conservative). And that's WITHOUT ANY LABOR, TAX, or SHIPPING charges.

Not included in that list is the suspension, brakes, wheel, and tire upgrades necessary to safely run that much power. Or any necessary maintenance items that he'll uncover as all those parts get installed.

Still want to argue that you can go single for $4-5k?



I Dont want you guys to be jealous that I am getting hooked up for my single turbo kit. And yes it is going to be reilable. Just DONT BE MAD WHEN I AM WAXING your ASSSSSSSSSSSSS all over the STREET and the STRIP. I was simply stating I can make more power with a single turbo than with twins. I make 340rwhp on stock twins with a stock motor at 14psi. HEY "RYNBERG "isnt that what you made on a BUILT MOTOR AND STAGE 3 TURBOS
. When u want to make some power you guys, be smart and put a single turbo on your car, and quit messing around with the VACCUM NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Well no **** sherlock, you're a bright one aren't you?

please, tell me where he said he wanted to drag race.

Not everyone builds their car for drag racing fuckwad, you don't even know what he wants.

Oh, and I don't think Rynberg is the best person to be arguing with about these things. He was here long before you, and he'll be here long after you.
Hey listen "fuckwad" You guys said the stock twin power is fine to make power, I was telling u how the big guys in RACING are making power and how anybody makes power. As far as being here longer than ME, Well he gets the AWARD FOR "KEYBOARD WARRIOR" because I dont get a ****!!!!
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
I Dont want you guys to be jealous that I am getting hooked up for my single turbo kit. And yes it is going to be reilable. Just DONT BE MAD WHEN I AM WAXING your ASSSSSSSSSSSSS all over the STREET and the STRIP. I was simply stating I can make more power with a single turbo than with twins. I make 340rwhp on stock twins with a stock motor at 14psi. HEY "RYNBERG "isnt that what you made on a BUILT MOTOR AND STAGE 3 TURBOS
. When u want to make some power you guys, be smart and put a single turbo on your car, and quit messing around with the VACCUM NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
I notice you completely ignored the whole point that it does indeed cost much more than $4-5k to go single, which is typical when someone finds they've made a mistake and aren't man enough to admit it.

As far as the numbers go, that wasn't me. I couldn't give a @#$ if your car has more horsepower than mine. So what?

FastAZFD3S, you're pretty much coming off as an immature little boy here.....

Sorry to hijack your thread Pacino, I hope you got some of the info you needed. I won't be mucking up this thread anymore...
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
Hey listen "fuckwad" You guys said the stock twin power is fine to make power, I was telling u how the big guys in RACING are making power and how anybody makes power. As far as being here longer than ME, Well he gets the AWARD FOR "KEYBOARD WARRIOR" because I dont get a ****!!!!
I think it's funny that every time someone calls you on something you don't even respond to it. You type yet another stupid reply about your claims or something else incoherent. In my experience that makes you the keyboard warrior and Rynberg the knowledgable veteran.

I believe Rynberg made a list of what he would need to go single if his car was stock, It was quite a difference in what you needed. Did his reply make too much sense for you to have a witty reply to?

I asked for you to show me where it was that he said he wanted to drag race. You obviously chose not to touch that one either.

You've manged to make about 22 posts on this forum and so far have not failed to make an *** out of yourself in every one of them. Congrats, it took threerotorrocket at least ten times that many.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
Hey listen "fuckwad" You guys said the stock twin power is fine to make power, I was telling u how the big guys in RACING are making power and how anybody makes power. As far as being here longer than ME, Well he gets the AWARD FOR "KEYBOARD WARRIOR" because I dont get a ****!!!!
I like this part
Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
....because I dont get a ****!!!!
Originally posted by rynberg
...Pacino, I hope you got some of the info you needed. I won't be mucking up this thread anymore...
Common...muck, muck, muck, muck, muck, muck!

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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
I Dont want you guys to be jealous that I am getting hooked up for my single turbo kit. And yes it is going to be reilable. Just DONT BE MAD WHEN I AM WAXING your ASSSSSSSSSSSSS all over the STREET and the STRIP. I was simply stating I can make more power with a single turbo than with twins. I make 340rwhp on stock twins with a stock motor at 14psi. HEY "RYNBERG "isnt that what you made on a BUILT MOTOR AND STAGE 3 TURBOS
. When u want to make some power you guys, be smart and put a single turbo on your car, and quit messing around with the VACCUM NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
Steve Kan (who knows a thing or two about drag racing, horsepower, and turbocharging) tuned my BNR Stage 3 upgraded twin turbos and told me "Without a doubt, your car pulls as hard as my drag car does on pump gas. This car feels like a strong single turbo car." He went on to say that the car felt like it could trap around 124 in the 1/4. The next day Stephen (identical setup to mine) went out and trapped 125.

Steve's drag car has made 630 to the ground on race gas, not sure about his dyno on pump gas. Also, I'm running my twins in parallel, so all of the vacuum hoses, solenoide, check valves, etc are gone. Just thought you might be interested .

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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Apneablue, nice to see you on the forum. It's been a while. I'm dyno'ing this weekend with the addition of a midpipe w/resonator. Think I'll get close to 400rwhp if I run 17 lbs?
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Apneablue, nice to see you on the forum. It's been a while. I'm dyno'ing this weekend with the addition of a midpipe w/resonator. Think I'll get close to 400rwhp if I run 17 lbs?
With just a midpipe added since the dyno listed in your sig? No chance in hell.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Apneablue, nice to see you on the forum. It's been a while. I'm dyno'ing this weekend with the addition of a midpipe w/resonator. Think I'll get close to 400rwhp if I run 17 lbs?
Not likely, man. More like 360 or so. How knows, though? Only one way to find out
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
I Dont want you guys to be jealous that I am getting hooked up for my single turbo kit. And yes it is going to be reilable. Just DONT BE MAD WHEN I AM WAXING your ASSSSSSSSSSSSS all over the STREET and the STRIP. I was simply stating I can make more power with a single turbo than with twins. I make 340rwhp on stock twins with a stock motor at 14psi. HEY "RYNBERG "isnt that what you made on a BUILT MOTOR AND STAGE 3 TURBOS
. When u want to make some power you guys, be smart and put a single turbo on your car, and quit messing around with the VACCUM NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
I'm not 'jealous' that you got a turbo kit for $1700. I already know places where I can used TD07 or T78/88s for $1000-$1500. The point of this whole thread is whether or not pacino can make the same thing happen with only $4-$5K. Like I said before, we have to assume that Pacino may not be able to find a good deal on a turbo kit.

You still haven't said if that $1700 you spent was for your ENTIRE setup (fuel, ECU, misc). You got a kit for $1700...whoop-dee-fricking-doo!!! now why dont you try contributing something useful to the thread. Like where he can get a kit for the same price, if that also includes an ECU, how much tuning and installation costs.
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I notice you completely ignored the whole point that it does indeed cost much more than $4-5k to go single, which is typical when someone finds they've made a mistake and aren't man enough to admit it.

As far as the numbers go, that wasn't me. I couldn't give a @#$ if your car has more horsepower than mine. So what?

FastAZFD3S, you're pretty much coming off as an immature little boy here.....

Sorry to hijack your thread Pacino, I hope you got some of the info you needed. I won't be mucking up this thread anymore...
RYNBERG why dont you admit that it CAN be done. JAPAN Ebay sells turbos, wastegates, injectors and manifolds cheep. Just because your car is slow, doesnt mean this guy can make his faster for less money than you.

Turbo: $500
Manifold:$600
Wastegate:$400
The look on your face in my rear view mirrior when I am kicking your ***.............................PRICELESS!!!!!!!!! !
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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I like this part




Common...muck, muck, muck, muck, muck, muck!

You guys were talking about IMMATURE earlier, this guy must have missed that post.......your picture of your DAD holding your full birth name is not funny............GROW UP!!!!
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
RYNBERG why dont you admit that it CAN be done. JAPAN Ebay sells turbos, wastegates, injectors and manifolds cheep. Just because your car is slow, doesnt mean this guy can make his faster for less money than you.

Turbo: $500
Manifold:$600
Wastegate:$400
The look on your face in my rear view mirrior when I am kicking your ***.............................PRICELESS!!!!!!!!! !
You really need to take a chill pill, man. Aren't we all rotary owners here, and at least supposed to act like we like each other?

Also, did you see my post a few post up above? I'd like to get your take on what I said.

take it easy---
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
...Aren't we all rotary owners here, and at least supposed to act like we like each other?
Really? I thought we were supposed to act like then we were better then each other?




























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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
Listen , first of all I am not a "newbie" he simply stated he had 5 k to modify a RX7 and why not make a lot of power with a SINGLE TURBO. And as far as being immature, you dont even know me.
First of all I didn't call you the newbie. Read my post again. I was agreeing with RYNBERG that it is not a good idea to give newbies advice with a newly purchased FD --- to go out and buy a ******* single turbo. What kind of advice was that? Let me guess you were just kidding. In addition, I don't need to meet you to see that you are immature. See your quote below:

Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
I Dont want you guys to be jealous that I am getting hooked up for my single turbo kit. And yes it is going to be reilable. Just DONT BE MAD WHEN I AM WAXING your ASSSSSSSSSSSSS all over the STREET and the STRIP. I was simply stating I can make more power with a single turbo than with twins. I make 340rwhp on stock twins with a stock motor at 14psi. HEY "RYNBERG "isnt that what you made on a BUILT MOTOR AND STAGE 3 TURBOS
. When u want to make some power you guys, be smart and put a single turbo on your car, and quit messing around with the VACCUM NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
I assume that you would say this is a MATURE statement. Look you made some enemies here with your stupid comment and you are living up to the AZ part of your username - so ******* back off
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Originally posted by FastAZFD3S
RYNBERG why dont you admit that it CAN be done. JAPAN Ebay sells turbos, wastegates, injectors and manifolds cheep. Just because your car is slow, doesnt mean this guy can make his faster for less money than you.

Turbo: $500
Manifold:$600
Wastegate:$400
The look on your face in my rear view mirrior when I am kicking your ***.............................PRICELESS!!!!!!!!! !
Turbo: $500
Manifold:$600
Wastegate:$400
The look on your face when you install the above single turbo on a completely stock car and blow your engine within 5 minutes................PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Rynberg, sorry to hijack this awesome thread (:P) but I was curious why you said that you have to have a PowerFC to run a single turbo? Is it REALLY necessary to have a full standalone setup simply to go single? Why not just run a piggyback with bigger injectors? Just curious, I am a newb.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by cow
Rynberg, sorry to hijack this awesome thread (:P) but I was curious why you said that you have to have a PowerFC to run a single turbo? Is it REALLY necessary to have a full standalone setup simply to go single? Why not just run a piggyback with bigger injectors? Just curious, I am a newb.
Going single is about the biggest mod you can do to the car. Yes, it requires a stand-alone ecu for safe and reliable running. Piggybacks don't really work with FDs. Spend about 200 hours reading the forum and through Steve Cirian's, Max Cooper's, and Rob Robinette's sites (lots of other good ones too). You have much to learn, grasshopper...
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by cow
Rynberg, sorry to hijack this awesome thread (:P) but I was curious why you said that you have to have a PowerFC to run a single turbo? Is it REALLY necessary to have a full standalone setup simply to go single? Why not just run a piggyback with bigger injectors? Just curious, I am a newb.
I agree with Rynberg (as would just about everyone else), that YES, you do need a standalone. You need a standalone when you have a full exhaust on these cars. They're by no means cheap to modify.

oh, and FastAZFD3S, you can't honestly think that you need simply that to go single on a stock FD could you? I certainly hope not. If you do think that, you're an idiot. If you know it takes more than that, you just proved Rynbergs point making yourself look like more of an idiot.

Rich, while we all may be fans of our beloved rotary, every village has it's idiot(s).
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Hey come on guys. Can't we just get along. Fastazfd3s was just giving his input. In all fairness rynberg was the first to flame with his ignorance statement. He could have just disagreed and left it at that and we wouldn't be arguing amongst ourselves. Aren't we forgetting one thing.....RX 7's are the ****. We should be arguing with real ******** like Supra owners..
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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In all fairness rynberg was the first to flame with his ignorance statement
I guess Rynberg could have sugar-coated it, but there's nothing wrong with using attention grabing words to put emphasis on how wrong that advice really was. What was he supposed to do? As a well known member of this forum I would think the best idea would have been for him to do what he did, point out that it was not good advice for this kid right now. Why? Because he's a noob, completely unfamiliar and was being completely uninformed.



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