oil pressure gauge install
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oil pressure gauge install
i'm looking for a write up or at least some clear directions on how to install an oil pressure gauge. i know from my integra i needed a sandwich plate that goes in between the oil filter and the block. does the same apply for our motor?
since there is already an oil pressure gauge on our cars does this plate or something like it, already exist? if i get the sandwich plate will it have to be 13b specific or are they universal?
any help would be appreciated.
since there is already an oil pressure gauge on our cars does this plate or something like it, already exist? if i get the sandwich plate will it have to be 13b specific or are they universal?
any help would be appreciated.
I think re-speed makes a low profile replacement for the stock sandwich plate that inclides an additional port for another gauge. Otherwise you can use the stock port for your new gauge, since using the stock gauge too would be pointless.
Dont try to use any of the universal sandwich plates since they wont fit.
Dont try to use any of the universal sandwich plates since they wont fit.
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I think re-speed makes a low profile replacement for the stock sandwich plate that inclides an additional port for another gauge. Otherwise you can use the stock port for your new gauge, since using the stock gauge too would be pointless.
Dont try to use any of the universal sandwich plates since they wont fit.
Dont try to use any of the universal sandwich plates since they wont fit.
thanks for the info
Totally worth it and highly recommended IMO. You should NOT be getting on your car until your oil temps are AT LEAST above 150F, which can take a little time, especially in the Winter months. An aftermarket oil temp gauge will tell you when you're engine is adequately warmed up. Also, you can quickly identify a problem if the oil temp starts climbing quickly.
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Totally worth it and highly recommended IMO. You should NOT be getting on your car until your oil temps are AT LEAST above 150F, which can take a little time, especially in the Winter months. An aftermarket oil temp gauge will tell you when you're engine is adequately warmed up. Also, you can quickly identify a problem if the oil temp starts climbing quickly.
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First off, there's a perfectly good oil pressure gauge on your dash. If it's not reading properly, get a new sender for $80 and you'll be good for another 10 years.
Second, oil pressure really isn't that big of a deal on a rotary. Well, yes, you do need good oil pressure, but the only time you really see oil pressure problems are on a fresh motor that wasn't put together properly. If it's a good motor, it will likely have good oil pressure until something else (apex seal, overheating) takes it out.
I've yet to see anyone blow an engine because their oil pressure was bad or if they had just looked at a gauge they would have been OK. The primary cause of losing oil pressure on a good engine would be catastrophic loss of oil, like a ruptured oil cooler line, and there's a level sensor in the oil pan for that.
Oil temp can be good to monitor on a *track* car that's seeing long amounts of extended boost (like 30 minutes track sessions at full throttle). On a street car, keeping an eye on water temp is typically all that's really needed.
And Glowshift gauges - seriously? This is an FD, not an '89 Civic with neons. Get some good gauges if you're gonna do it. Boost, water temp, and a good wideband is really all the FD needs.
Dale
Second, oil pressure really isn't that big of a deal on a rotary. Well, yes, you do need good oil pressure, but the only time you really see oil pressure problems are on a fresh motor that wasn't put together properly. If it's a good motor, it will likely have good oil pressure until something else (apex seal, overheating) takes it out.
I've yet to see anyone blow an engine because their oil pressure was bad or if they had just looked at a gauge they would have been OK. The primary cause of losing oil pressure on a good engine would be catastrophic loss of oil, like a ruptured oil cooler line, and there's a level sensor in the oil pan for that.
Oil temp can be good to monitor on a *track* car that's seeing long amounts of extended boost (like 30 minutes track sessions at full throttle). On a street car, keeping an eye on water temp is typically all that's really needed.
And Glowshift gauges - seriously? This is an FD, not an '89 Civic with neons. Get some good gauges if you're gonna do it. Boost, water temp, and a good wideband is really all the FD needs.
Dale
Dale - Glowshift makes an Oil Filter PEDESTAL that is very nice. We aren't talking about the gauge faces.
Figured we should make that clarification...but I'm starting to think that was a Freudian slip on your part and I should check your gauges next time I'm in your car. Did you get the reverse indiglo or the adjustable 7 colors model? =)
Figured we should make that clarification...but I'm starting to think that was a Freudian slip on your part and I should check your gauges next time I'm in your car. Did you get the reverse indiglo or the adjustable 7 colors model? =)
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First off, there's a perfectly good oil pressure gauge on your dash. If it's not reading properly, get a new sender for $80 and you'll be good for another 10 years.
Second, oil pressure really isn't that big of a deal on a rotary. Well, yes, you do need good oil pressure, but the only time you really see oil pressure problems are on a fresh motor that wasn't put together properly. If it's a good motor, it will likely have good oil pressure until something else (apex seal, overheating) takes it out.
I've yet to see anyone blow an engine because their oil pressure was bad or if they had just looked at a gauge they would have been OK. The primary cause of losing oil pressure on a good engine would be catastrophic loss of oil, like a ruptured oil cooler line, and there's a level sensor in the oil pan for that.
Oil temp can be good to monitor on a *track* car that's seeing long amounts of extended boost (like 30 minutes track sessions at full throttle). On a street car, keeping an eye on water temp is typically all that's really needed.
And Glowshift gauges - seriously? This is an FD, not an '89 Civic with neons. Get some good gauges if you're gonna do it. Boost, water temp, and a good wideband is really all the FD needs.
Dale
Second, oil pressure really isn't that big of a deal on a rotary. Well, yes, you do need good oil pressure, but the only time you really see oil pressure problems are on a fresh motor that wasn't put together properly. If it's a good motor, it will likely have good oil pressure until something else (apex seal, overheating) takes it out.
I've yet to see anyone blow an engine because their oil pressure was bad or if they had just looked at a gauge they would have been OK. The primary cause of losing oil pressure on a good engine would be catastrophic loss of oil, like a ruptured oil cooler line, and there's a level sensor in the oil pan for that.
Oil temp can be good to monitor on a *track* car that's seeing long amounts of extended boost (like 30 minutes track sessions at full throttle). On a street car, keeping an eye on water temp is typically all that's really needed.
And Glowshift gauges - seriously? This is an FD, not an '89 Civic with neons. Get some good gauges if you're gonna do it. Boost, water temp, and a good wideband is really all the FD needs.
Dale
i was thinking about getting an oil pressure gauge because i noticed that a lot of people on here have one and i read something about the one in the cluster working as well as the water temp gauge. so i figured it would be a good idea to get one. since you say i dont need one, i guess i'll just let the stock one do its job.
you tell me "This is an FD, not an '89 Civic with neons. Get some good gauges if you're gonna do it." and "Oil temp can be good to monitor on a *track* car that's seeing long amounts of extended boost (like 30 minutes track sessions at full throttle). On a street car, keeping an eye on water temp is typically all that's really needed."
i dont *track* race but living in japan i do touge. when driving, i AM in constant boost as my rpms dont fall below 5000 usually. so according to your logic an oil temp gauge would apply to my situation.
you made these statements off of incorrect information that you gathered on your own without any prior knowledge as to what my intention is or what it is i do with my car. on honda forums the only answers people get are "SEARCH" and "dont do that. thats stupid, just blah blah" they answer questions the same way you tried to answer mine. you sir, are no different than them. maybe honda-tech is where your "expert" answers would be more appreciated.
thanks for the advice anyway. i now know that the oil pressure gauge in the cluster is adequate for all applications and aftermarket gauge is not necessary. you saved me 100$.
Dale was just trying to save you a little money and wasted time and effort. He actually is quite the rotary expert and his advice is typically appreciated.
I believe his comments were taken a bit too sensitively. He was trying to pass on enough information for you to make your own intelligent decision of what you needed. The only insulting comment he made was concerning the gauges which we all know was incorrect.
The oil temp gauge may help you in knowing when oil is at temp and you could begin to run the car hard safely. Togue racing does not see extended boost times like extended lap racing with no breaks for cool down. Typically 15 minutes of normal driving will get oil to adequate temp for boosting. Do you NEED it? No, not really. But it also wouldn't hurt to have it either.
I believe his comments were taken a bit too sensitively. He was trying to pass on enough information for you to make your own intelligent decision of what you needed. The only insulting comment he made was concerning the gauges which we all know was incorrect.
The oil temp gauge may help you in knowing when oil is at temp and you could begin to run the car hard safely. Togue racing does not see extended boost times like extended lap racing with no breaks for cool down. Typically 15 minutes of normal driving will get oil to adequate temp for boosting. Do you NEED it? No, not really. But it also wouldn't hurt to have it either.
Hey Dale,
I used to use glowshift gauges. People **** on them all the time but at the end of the day, they did work and IMO, they look OK. I've only had one problem with one of them. On an extremely cold day, the needle on one of them stopped moving when I started up my car. I tapped the gauge lightly with my finger and all was well. That's pretty much it. Besides that, the gauges have been in perfect working order. I definitely find them better than nothing that's for sure. I'd have to say I find these to be a better bang for the buck then some of the crappy autometer gauges.
I used to use glowshift gauges. People **** on them all the time but at the end of the day, they did work and IMO, they look OK. I've only had one problem with one of them. On an extremely cold day, the needle on one of them stopped moving when I started up my car. I tapped the gauge lightly with my finger and all was well. That's pretty much it. Besides that, the gauges have been in perfect working order. I definitely find them better than nothing that's for sure. I'd have to say I find these to be a better bang for the buck then some of the crappy autometer gauges.







