hypnotizer

I'm thinking of getting NOS installed in my FD. good idea or bad? If anyone can let me in with the pros and cons i'd appreciate it.

futurerexowner

This is a good idea if you WANT to blow your apex seals... but seriously, Nitrous Oxide (not NOS, Nawz, or whatever else) Makes your engine combustion much hotter adding alot more pressure on the seals of a rotary. I have heard that people have done it, but not usually for very long before they quit. Exoerts have said that running a 50 shot can be considered safe, but think long and hard about what you are putting in your engine. In a piston engine Nitrous is not adding undo pressure onto a very thin seal, it is a large surface area that can withstand such pressure. not to mention the 13b already runs very hot and that heat alone destroys o-rings, what makes you think making it even hotter is not giong to make the situation worse. If it were me I would say stick to genuine power and leave the "NOS" to the stupid ricers.

Fd3BOOST

iTrader: (7)

NOS Is a joke .RX7s don't need that ****.
Try searching next time you have a dumb question.

charliegt

I was under the impression that while running Nitrous your engine actually runs cooler because when it expands from a liquid to a gas it absorbs energy (heat). However by adding more oxygen to the mix and causing a more violent combustion you will be putting more stress on the internals of your engine and therfore shortening the life.

-Charlie

4Fun

iTrader: (8)

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/N2O.html
That is a good web site to start with

I have found that there are alot of BS here with 15% truth. Alot of myths and personal ideas, so If you really want good info goto the search engines and put the time in educate yourself.

Silex

4Fun is partly right. I know you guys have good intentions, but i honestly trust what tuner shops tell me more than the average FD owner. No ofense of course, we are all still learning as we go, but we can only know so much with what we have to work with.
BTW...
NOS = Nitrous Oxide System
People are just lazy and pronouce it like a word instead of saying each letter out loud. Hell I do the same for many accronyms esp. VIN.

itrdanny2001

Hey, if Vin Diesel can pull it off in the Fast and the Furious, why can't we all?

When I had my honda I was very iffy about NOS because it put extra strain on the engine. But to be honest, like the guys before me said, your best bet would be to check with the people who rebuild the engines. I'm sure not too many FD owners have experience with NOS becuase most thing it will lead to premature seal failure I guess.

Make sure if you get it, you put it in your passenger seat. That would be cool.

Silex

Hah passenger seat. More like in the rear compartment hatch. Who wants to "fool around" with a bottle of nitrous oxide when you can be foolin around with something else . Plus the rotary engine is kinda nit-picky when it comes to this so I would steer far away from it. Who knows what happens when those rotors speed up the way they do.

jimlab

Yeah, but now you pronounce it "Holl-ey".

Between Mr. Gasket (Hurst, Accel, Hays, Lakewood, Mallory, Erson) and Holley (Weiand, Nitrous Oxide Systems, Hooker, Earl's, Lunati) it's a wonder they bother having brand names any longer.

BTW, Nitrous Oxide Systems is a brand/company name, and the word "NOS" was derived from their logo (below). NOS doesn't refer to just any "nitrous oxide system", it refers to a particular manufacturer.

ijneb

Ok, what about getting power from NAWZ by jetting it into the intercooler/radiator. I dont know all the exact patterns or anything, but ive read that when its injected into a radiator/ IC that it cools temperatures down. so instead of putting it into your intake, point it at it!
would it work, or am i reading the wrong magazines?

PureSephiroth

adding nitrus oxide to your fuel air mixture has a result that should come as simple thinking to you.

Nitrus Oxide: Highly Explosive

lets think about what happens to gasoline when it goes through your engine... Well, it explodes. This is what moves the rotors around. (duh)

Gasoline+ Nitrus Oxide= More explosive mixture causing the rotars to move faster because there is nore pressure from the high intensity explosion

More Pressure= Blown Apex Seals

Nitrus Oxide puts more stress on the engine and regardless of how long the bursts are that you use or how rarely you use it, It WILL shorten your engine life. The question is how much are you willing to shorten it?

From most people on this forum I hear that if you take care of problems as they arise with a 3rd gen, you can keep them running for very long periods of time. They're no Delorian but even with a heavily tuned Race modded FD, being driven hard, if you take care of problems as they arise, your engine can last for a decently long time.

All in All, everything that you would normally do to your engine will have a plus side and a minus side. With Nitrus, you get a boost that is correlated with the shortened engine life. If you like to race from a stop, you'll have to buy clutches more often. It works the same way. So reall, the decision should be based on your personal preference and not what people tell you. What people CAN tell you though, is how much it will shorten your engine life. Unfortunately i have no FD and i'm not interested in installing a nitrus system when i get mine anyway. (if and when i hopefully do, god willing and all that stuff) So my advice: Listen to a knowledgable mechanic that can tell you what Nitrus will do to your engine, consider if its what you want and go from there. Don't let anyone influence your decision by saying, "I'd Never get Nitrus Oxide." and the like. Do what you want, but know what you're getting into first. ^_^

poss

iTrader: (5)

by its self, gas Nitrous Oxide is not explosive. you've just been watching too much F&F.

PureSephiroth

I hate Fast and the Furious!!!! It gave import fans a bad name! anyway. .. I realize its not explosive by itself. Its kind of like gunpowder. By itself it will create only a flame but when it is in a pressurized and contained environment, it becomes very explosive. (compared to gasoline that is)

cmartinp28

well........... dont forget...... if its pressurized....... and there is no gasoline...... the sparkplug wont ignite it......... so, its not explosive unless you mix it with gas, pressurize it and ignite it

poss

iTrader: (5)

it is not flamable, it is only a catalyst to help with the combustion of additional gas.

but anyway, i'm not a big fan of nitrous due to the refill thing. IMO, there are better ways to spend $$ and increase HP (on our cars anyway)

RZFD

Thank you. i don't know why people think N2O is flammable It's like concentrated air (more oxygen+more fuel=more power). And the nitrogen actually cools the combustion. IMO it hink nitrous would be safe on an FD (Ari Yallon, Ibel Ibarra, Steven Khan) if it is used progressively not just an instant burst of power. That way it should functions much like a turbo. Just my .2 cents

cmartinp28

yeah, dont forget....... they can also afford to rip appart their engines every month? most of us ****'s cant quite do it as often

RZFD

Touche, but you don't have to use a huge shot and run it on a daily basis. Used properly nitrous can most likely be just as safe if not safer than a single (which is on all/most of the time).

cmartinp28

well, maybe......hehe....... i guess to each his own........ one thing is true though....... its a hell of a lot cheaper than converting to single

itrdanny2001

who said to introduce the nitrous through the radiator?

cmartinp28

introduce nitrous through the radiator? i dont know what you meant by that..... but there is this thing called ntercooler which sprays nitrous on your intercooler..... or i guess even your radiator on WOT.

RZFD

I've heard of that with water but not nitrous, just spraying it on your IC/Rad sounds like it could get to be a real waste of $$$$$.

cmartinp28

well, actually its not a waste of money...... you can get up to 50 hp from that(look for past threads) cuz remember nitrous oxide in liquid form is colder than ice...... nitrous express sells it.

RZFD

Well not a waste but still damn expensive just to spray it in your I/C @ 3.50-4 bucks a Lb. For my money I'd rather pump it in with the fuel and I don't even really like nitrous.

cmartinp28

yeah its expensive alright......... you can use CO2 as an alternative...... but i think you'll get better thrills sniffing the N2O