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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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Question Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

what do you guys think the next mod or mods should be to go with the list of goodies down below? any and all thoughts are welcome.



greddy cat back
down pipe
unorthadox pulleys
RB intake
Power FC
greddy elbo
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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I'd say you could go with an intercooler. Then a HFC but get your PFC tuned when you do the HFC.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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Coilovers and crossdrilled rotors. You don't want to make too much hp with the stock suspension and brakes .
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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Re: Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
what do you guys think the next mod or mods should be to go with the list of goodies down below? any and all thoughts are welcome.



greddy cat back
down pipe
unorthadox pulleys
RB intake
Power FC
greddy elbo
If you still have a factory DP and midpipe both, get the DP to eliminate the extremely problematic precat, this assumes you have a boost gauge because its possible, though unlikely given that you dont have an intake or catback, to overboost. Id follow it up with a PFC down the road.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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Re: Re: Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

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If you still have a factory DP and midpipe both, get the DP to eliminate the extremely problematic precat, this assumes you have a boost gauge because its possible, though unlikely given that you dont have an intake or catback, to overboost. Id follow it up with a PFC down the road.
I think that the list up above reflects the stuff he already has.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

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I think that the list up above reflects the stuff he already has.

we have a winner. the mods listed do reflect the ones that are on the car. and a mid pipe is on its way as well.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

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we have a winner. the mods listed do reflect the ones that are on the car. and a mid pipe is on its way as well.
So do I get a cookie ? Man, they need to import that little dancing banana smiley from the other forum over here. I love that little dude .

So do you still have stock suspension and brakes?
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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yes,the banana is all yours so long as you post some cameltoe pictures while you're over there having fun in the big sandbox. and for some reason i'm not able to put a smiley face after that.

anyway, yes i do believe the suspension and brakes are stock. however this is not my car,i'm doing a little research for somebody after giving my opinion to see what others think and how close i was with my thoughts and ideas on what to upgrade next. i said fuel system(pump,filter,injectors) and Intercooler.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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I would say intercooler, definitely. I would also install the fuel pump/larger injectors before or simultaneously with the midpipe.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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If the RB intake is that stupid replacement for the stock tubing to the airbox, I would get rid of it. Almost anything is better than that.

I would get the efini y-pipe. It's around $200 and isn't difficult to install.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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given that i'm into reliability and safe HP - how about a larger radiator then an intercooler.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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hadn't put too much thought into upgrading the rad. really. not a bad idea though.

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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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I disagree with upgrading the radiator and y pipe
those mods are pretty much useless unless your y pipe is leaking or you end tanks broke on your radiator. You don't get that much power from the y pipe and the stock radiator works fine unless you have a front mount.

Make sure he has water and boost gauges.

I would also go with an intercooler next and an electronic boost controller at the same time.
Watch out for the midpipe. May have a hard time controlling the boost. Upgrading fuel is a good idea with that and definetaly have your pfc retuned afterwards.

Kinda scary that this kid is asking others what to mod on his own car. Just keep the boost to 12-13 psi max on stock fuel to be supersafe.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Next mod(s) to accompany current setup?

Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I think that the list up above reflects the stuff he already has.
I never learned how to reeaaaaaaaaad...ok actually I did I just wasn't paying enough attention. That said, I'd get a fuel pump/injectors/rail and have that PFC tuned for some more power.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Snook
Kinda scary that this kid is asking others what to mod on his own car. Just keep the boost to 12-13 psi max on stock fuel to be supersafe.
all set on the gauges. already in the car. in all fairness, he knows what he's doing, he just asked my opinion and i'm looking for other options as well. its not like i say what to get and he whips out the credit card or something. just looking for some general info. the car is going to be dyno tuned for the PFC and a mid pipe is being put on as well. so tuning is or will be taken care of

what do you guys think about tuning the car at 14psi on the stock twins and IC with the rest of the upgrades and the PFC? safe or a no go?

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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Snook
I disagree with upgrading the radiator and y pipe
those mods are pretty much useless unless your y pipe is leaking or you end tanks broke on your radiator. You don't get that much power from the y pipe and the stock radiator works fine unless you have a front mount.
I disagree on both of these:

The stock radiator works fine for most uses........until it breaks. A good quality aftermarket radiator will be more reliable.

They efini y-pipe added about 10 hp to the FD when Mazda put in in the car in 96(??). After installing a downpipe on my car, it was boosting to 12 psi. Next, I installed the Efini pipe, and opened up the stock airbox. The car was boosting to 15 1/2 with no change in boost control. That's 3 1/2 psi of additional boost from those 2 mods. I can't say how much each provided, but I have to assume that the y-pipe had to be at least one psi.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
what do you guys think about tuning the car at 14psi on the stock twins and IC with the rest of the upgrades and the PFC? safe or a no go?
I would say 12 to 12.5 psi max with the stock intercooler.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by twiztedjeckel

what do you guys think about tuning the car at 14psi on the stock twins and IC with the rest of the upgrades and the PFC? safe or a no go?
A very bad idea. I think Adam's generous giving the stock IC 12 psi....

The stock IC is really terrible. Not only does it not cool the intake charge very well, it has a high pressure drop. Which means your turbos will be pushing over 16 psi just to get to 14. With a larger IC, your turbos will be working easier and your intake air temps will drop even further.

FWIW, my mechanic has recently re-built a motor for someone running 15 psi on the stock IC -- too high of intake temps.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
all set on the gauges. already in the car. in all fairness, he knows what he's doing, he just asked my opinion and i'm looking for other options as well. its not like i say what to get and he whips out the credit card or something. just looking for some general info. the car is going to be dyno tuned for the PFC and a mid pipe is being put on as well. so tuning is or will be taken care of

what do you guys think about tuning the car at 14psi on the stock twins and IC with the rest of the upgrades and the PFC? safe or a no go?
IC efficiency at that much boost is gonna be crap, and general consensus says stock injectors are too small, he should probably get a fuel pump, injectors and a IC and then tune that baby up.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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i believe the car is going to KD on the 15th of this month. not positive what all is in store other than the midpipe install,dyno,PFC tuning.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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Is the stock cat-back restrictive enough to run a mp and dp? Just curious.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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are you talking in general or on his car? cause he's got a greddy catback is your talking about his car
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Just in general
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Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
i believe the car is going to KD on the 15th of this month. not positive what all is in store other than the midpipe install,dyno,PFC tuning.
Dave is pretty conservative when it comes to making recommendations re: boost, horsepower, etc. He definitely wants his customer's motors to last. Have your bud pick Dave's brain about all of this.....
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