iamanidiot

hey everyone i heard about this place over at elite car audio (<-click to visit) but anyways i love rx-7's and i want to get one sooooooo bad but my insurance is going to be outragoues b/c im only 17. could some one give me some specs of a 3rd gen twin turbo stock? like the hp on it, 1/4 mile times, top speeds and all the basics. ive heard that the engines r not that reliable on them, is that true? if so please explain how i can make it more reliable for when i do finally get a rx-7?

~iamanidiot

GsrSol

damn, you're an idiot
255 hp
217 tq

1/4 = 13.4 - 14.2

top speed ~163

Do a search for the other stuff you're looking for.

4ndrms

i know how you feel, i cant wait til i get my rx7, i'm 16 i cant drive until 18,cuz im on probation

iamanidiot

what for?

4ndrms

when i was 13 i vandalism with 3 friends of mine to my high school,middle school,shot a pizza hut man in the a$$ with a sling shot,broke a cops car window out and we pissed in his seat,stole a car all in a 3 days.got 200 hours of community service,20,000 dollors in damage, ground for the whole summer,couldnt watch cable,no phone,no computer. but now i'm a good little boy waiting to turn 18 and get my third genaration rx7 tt.

2a+RoN

I'm new to this forum too and I also know how you feel. I turn 16 in a month and I can't wait to get my RX-7 this summer. If you are planning on one, you just need to know that they are high maintainence cars and often times do require an engine rebuild. Despite this, the reliability can be greatly improved from a few modifications. These reliability problems with the engine are definately outweighed by the advantages, such as one of the best stock handling cars, and the looks are the shiznit.

Silex

Attack of the low post newbies!!!!!!!! May I join in? Hehehe . Yes you are a newbie...Not that that has been said and done, I just wanted to say that I'm 18 and probably won't be gettign an FD until I'm 20. Hey it's all good, but learn the ropes idiot (as in your name and not your intelligence )...

Toadman

*sigh*.... I give you exhibit A.... See what a stupid movie does for the RX-7 now everyone? It's only going to get worse Jan. 2 upon DVD release and a whole herd of 15-year-olds with learners permits who get daddy to plop down cash for an FD("Oh cmon dad, it's just a MAZDA, not a Corvette!") No offense guys, but...get a reliable car, get some hours behind the wheel, and save us rotary enthusiasts the anguish of seeing another FD wrapped around a pole by someone trying to play "Veilside" Vin Diesel.

iamanidiot

dude take a chill pill y dont ya? first of all ive always loved the rx-7 even before i saw 'fast and furious'. second of all when i do get one i am going to be paying for ALL OF IT and insurance. i am a very good driver, ive never had a ticket, never been stopped, never been off the road(and the roads r narrow as hell around here too), ive never hit or ran over anything EVER. and one more thing im not going to make it look like the 'veilside' rx-7 its going to look like no other car on the streets.

the unreliability of the car: whats the worst case scenario other than rebuilding the engine that could happen?

Chadwick

iTrader: (12)

The RX-7 is as reliable as the person behind the wheel.

Dan

Toadman

That was a tongue-in-cheek post, more like humor. Just remember it is not a first car that you want to do burnies in the school parking lot with. Hell, I wouldn't even drive it to school unless you are prepared to see it get keyed or the tires flattened.

Here's a good comparo article with stats.

2a+RoN

I just have to say that the "Fast and the Furious" had nothing to do with my interest in FD's. I've loved them for years. I'm not some moron that saw it in the theatre and said "I want that car." I don't even like the veilside kit. By the way, I am also paying for all of the car myself, and working pretty damn hard to do so.

VIPERKILLER

First of all ToadMan!! I luved that line VEILSIDE VIN DIESEL!!! **** I'm still laughing.....in all fairness guys ToadMan is right....you guys are saying you don't even have a license and don't drive? Can you drive stick? Because if you can't, an FD is not a car you want to learn on Poor clutch But hey....at least you guys are going after the right car....I'm 19 and am getting a 20B installed soon.....not to mention I live in one of the wealthiest part of Ontario, Canada, and everyday I get to bother rich dudes with Vipers and Ferrari's! jokez But seriously, the car is extremely dangerous if you havn't driven stick, and rear wheel drive? and adrenaline? damn...bad combo!!! Anways....best of luck!!!!!!

bajaman

Okay guys, you youngsters take a note here...yeah yeah yeah, I know, I sound like you dad......but just listen to the wisdom of what some are saying, read between the lines some......
Unless you know what the hell you are doing, an FD is NOT for you...no matter how bad you want one. It is simply way too much car unless you have some considerable time behind the wheel. Even then, you guys are your own worst enemy. You can't help yourself. You WILL NOT be able to resist the challenges you would get in this car...believe me, I fight it EVERY time I take my FD out....I am an aggressive driver, and it just KILLS me to ignore some *** that wants to **** around. And all too often these asses are young kids in Camaros or Mustangs or Beemers or Hondas...you'll get the whole spectrum.....but you know what? I'd rather be "killed" this way (emotionally) than ACTUALLY!
And in a car like an FD......well we in the Forum have seen this a lot...someone posts 'Got my FD!' and then a few days later....'****...totaled my FD!' Combine the natural aggresiveness of youth, the "I'm immortal" mindset, alcohol or drugs....you have a recipe for disaster.
There was an old Car&Driver or Road&Track article that claimed that one of the reasons the 3rd gen was a full 30% to 40% more expensive than the 2nd gens was that Mazda understood the liability factor of such a car being available to the "masses", thus the car was priced to put it out of the range of youthful, inexperienced drivers (for the most part).
Now that the cars are becoming "affordable", you see more and more of them being bought (and then wrecked!) by younger drivers.

And so many other issues....the jealousy of your peers will assure you that your car would be fucked with daily. The reliability and maintenance issues, insurance.....do you really want to spend ALL your money on your car?

Now having said all that....no one will fault you for wanting an FD. And once you have the maturity to own one, go for it. For some that might 18 years old, for others it might be 25 or more. Learn about cars. Learn about the dynamics involved with controlling a vehicle. You can't buy experience, that comes only with age. You can't buy driving ability, learn to recognize your limitations.....sorry, there are very few Michael Schumachers amongst you! You CAN buy instruction. Sign up for a driving school...ask mom and dad for it....there are many advantages in doing this.
Again, once you are REALLY ready for an FD, and ONLY then, should you consider it. Give the car the respect it needs. Give yourself a chance at.....life.
And always, ALWAYS remember to temper your desire with reality....it IS just a car. A beautiful, wonderful car, but still just a car. Education and friends and family and a whole host of other things are more important than a car.

4ndrms

i wanted one ever since i stole one when i was 13

4ndrms

i learn to drive a stick when i was 11 my dad tought me cuz he lived out in the country

RyanREX

Insurance bytes. I'm only 16! Better get good grades first so the companies will be nice to yah.

EunosFD

Man, you guys need to grow up some and learn to drive before getting yourself into something as involved as an FD. Bajaman is totally right none of you are ready. Don't take it as an insult, but rather just good advice from people who already know what these cars are about. You may know how to push the clutch in and wiggle the shifter around (boy that doesn't sound too good ), but that doesn't make you a good driver at all. You definately need a few years behind the wheel and some good instruction to really be a capable driver let alone good enough to really handle the FD with the respect it deserves. On the insurance note I doubt your insurance companies will even take you on a car like the FD and if they do the premium will be astronomical. Not to mention the costs involved with general maintenence, repairs, and reliability upgrades. Guys, just wait a few years until you're really ready (read: not eager) to get a car like an FD. If you're truly a rotorhead and really want an RX-7 then start out with an n/a 2nd gen or something like that. They're not super powerful so you won't kill you or others, they're actually reliable unlike the FD, they can outhandle most sports cars out there, can be modded pretty easily, and the insurance won't be nearly as bad. Believe me life isn't a movie like F&F and you guys aren't Vin Diesel so just cool your jets until you're more experienced.

2a+RoN

I am not claiming to be a good driver, but I am getting experience before I ever try to get behind the wheel of an RX-7. Right know I have my first car (a black 91 240sx...5-speed), I know its nothing like an FD, but I am getting some good practice on it. I will not buy an RX-7 if until I have the experience that this sensitive car requires. My friend (just turned 16) dad gave him a 95 touring and so I will see what experience the car needs and maybe get some practice in it myself before forking up some cash for one. Believe me, I know at this point i could not handle the car, I'm not that naive for my age and also more mature than many of my other friends who want to "borrow my car" for some stupid burnouts. I also am planning on attending our local racing school, Bonduraunt School of High Performance Driving to get some much needed experience.

bajaman

4ndrms.....man, you sound almost proud of being a vandalistic little *****! I hope for your sake that you have grown out of that ****, and know that no one, no ADULT anyway, finds any of that **** amusing.
WE are the ones that pay for the ****, that go to work and try to do the "right thing", only to have our **** fucked with by juvenile *********.
There is "having fun" and then there is just fucked up vandalism.
And then to follow up your bullshit brags with yet another "brag", true or not about stealing a car? **** man, that behaviour is the type that will NOT win you any friends here....and I will tell you that if anyone was to steal my car and I caught them, they would be INCAPABLE of ever stealing (or walking again, for that matter).
Man, I don't want to harp on this and I really hope you are just ******* with us all........right?

maxpesce

To all you young newbies - READ BAJAMAN'S POST AGAIN - and when you can honestly say you fully understand what he is saying and are mature enough to handle the responsibility of driving an ultra high performance car (not just an FD RX-7), Please don't. Because to be Blunt I don't care if you do end up killing yourself BUT I do care about the innocent passangers/bystanders you might kill or maime in the process - Just 2 days ago a Teenager (with a previously perfect driving record) crashed his parents SUV while street racing and killed himself and a passenger and seriously injured two others in the vehicle. The accident took place on a road I drive on a regular basis.
While I know an SUV is not a High Perf sports car -Just think how much greater the temptation to drive
beyond your abilities will be in an FD.
I have been driving for about 30 years and when I got my FD the power & handeling was so far beyond anything I had driven before (incl my 66 E-type Jaguar) it suprised me. I have since been to a High Performance event and spent a couple hours on a race track w/ an instructor to learn how to handle the performnce potential of my FD. Remember High Performance Vehicle also Brings HIGH RISK, it takes a LOT of SKILL to drive one and when you loose control in one it takes more than a little luck to come out of it unhurt.
So please BE CAREFULL OUT THERE!

TpCpLaYa

iTrader: (10)

now i will be one of the first people to admit that i am one of the younger ones on this forum and to the other yougn guys listen to the experienced guys becasue they know what they are talking about. i know it might seem like im turning my back on the yougner guys but i too am searching for an FD but will not committ untill i know absolutely everything i can about the car. i have been here a couple of months which might not seem liek alot but i have heard all the "i totaled my FD" stories like bajaman mentioned in his post. we can all dream as i feel im doing right now but be smart and think aout if you had your wonderful FD...you just put on all your new mods and you take it out only to be reeled in by a honda boy and u end up destroying it. makes me cringe to even think about it but search around and pick up advice here and there before you u admit to buying the car. You can always still look as im doing

2a+RoN

For starters, I agree with bajaman with the vandalist, that is just plain idiotic. I would then like to state that I have no intentions of ever street racing b/c I have first hand knowledge of the dangers of cars. What I plan to do is save performance driving for after attending racing school and after I get an SCCA membership. That way, I can go on a track to drive fast where it is meant to be, and where it would not injur or kill innocent people.

2a+RoN

For starters, I agree with bajaman with the vandalist, that is just plain idiotic. I would then like to state that I have not intentions of ever street racing b/c I have first hand knowledge of the dangers of cars. What I plan to do is save aggressive driving for after racing school and after I get an SCCA membership. That way, I can go on a track to drive fast where it is meant to be and would not injur innocent people.

Toadman

No intentions at this time most likely..until you get the car, start modding and dumping money into it and cruising for the ladies. The car is an aphrodisiac and an absolute rush. So how you going to resist the urge with a buddy or lady sitting shotgun, the rex is running sweet with an 11-8-10 boost pattern, and someone revs on you at a light to prove who's dick is bigger(like that ******* jock you hate)? It happens almost every day in an FD! Are you cool enough to not bow to peer pressure? You going to say "So sorry..I don't race" and risk getting laughed at and **** thrown at your car? You ever accept a beer or puff a fattie at a party or done something you know is wrong, but did it anyways because you don't want to appear a geek? Or are you going to stick to your guns and be called a rich all-show-no-go goodie-goodie churchmouse at school because you refuse to put your money where your mouth is, and risk the car getting vandalized or worse, just because people hate you for it?

I shiver for HS students driving FD's. The car scares the **** out of me sometimes when she gets pissed. Just some advice.... we all the love the car, but she demands respect and an educated hand to drive her, 16 year-olds don't have it unless you have raced shifter carts for years or your last name is Andretti.