newjerseyradcliff

Hello my name is George and i am buying a92 tt rx7 tommorow, although i have a few questions. 1 why does the automatic redine lower the the man.? is it ok to bring the redline up in the auto? what are the mane things to look for before i get the car, like common rotary problems? any advice would help thank you.

dgeesaman

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Advice? Don't buy it tomorrow. Read the FAQ and the buyers guides and you'll realize you probably don't have all the things in place to know if you're buying a good car.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/

FDs are great cars, but you MUST be careful to buy the right one. Lotsa lemons out there that get sold for full price.

Dave

bajaman

Dave has given you a good link. PLEASE understand that these cars are pretty much a race car that is barely civilized for the street, and as such are quite 'fragile' from a mechanical standpoint compared to a similar vintage piston engine car. Properly maintained and owned by a knowledgeable person, they are very capable and will give you good service. But without the understanding of what makes them 'tick', you will find yourself plagued with a VERY expensive situation and fall totally out of love with the car very soon, and easily spend several times the car's worth on repairs.

To answer your question on the redline differences, the automatic is the limiting factor there, Mazda doesn't want to see it spun up past 7K or so. Don't worry, the only thing that happens is you'll get a warning beep as you pass 7K, you can actually go several hundred rpm past that without the car shutting off or anything like that.

SLOASFK

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I'd be cautios if it's advertised as a 92. In America we never got the 92s. The FD started as a 93 over here.

Interestingly, in Japan, they had FCs(second gens) and FDs(third gens) both sold as 92s simultaniously.

newjerseyradcliff

well i have been around cars my whole life so i do have a good understanding of the way the wankle works and runs, iv just never owned one. The reason i might get one tommorow is i am selling my 2006 350z and i was offerd a 93 twinturbo auto rx7 and 15k cash for my car. i am in need of money and this is the only offer i have recieved and i kinda have to do it. i drove the car and it spools hard and does not smoke, the car has 101,000 mi and sounds smooth and looks clean, i have owned many turbo cars so i know what to expect as far as that goes just not rotary. The only thing that i noticed was when i put my ear near thew motor on the turbo side and reved it from under the hood i heard a slight jingle sound coming from what sounded luike the backside of the engine, was not enough to worry me but then again i dont know? vary fiant and doesnt sound harmfull but has anyone heard this ? what do you guys think of this deal and what do you recomend, again i am in need of money and if this sounds like nothing to worry about i will get the car, i have owned 300zx tt toyota supra (96 le) n/a, eclipse gst and 350z so i would love to try the rx7 please let me know what you guys think, thank you vary much for the help

SLOASFK

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RX-7s aren't a car to buy when you're on a fixed budget. They require a lot of attention and when stuff breaks it's usually critical. Additionally, they get terrible gas mileage, which will add up fast.

I don't know what a 350Z is worth, but an automatic 93 is only worth maybe $9k in perfect condition with low miles.

newjerseyradcliff

well im not on a budget i just got offerd the car along with cash, i will cerinly have cash left over to put into the car, i kinda feel like you are talking me out of getting it, are they really that bad?

SLOASFK

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You keep saying you're in need of money, which implies you probably won't have a whole lot to spend when the time comes.

I'm not trying to talk you out of it, I'm just saying, these cars can be really expencive. Especially if you are in need of money,a s you said repeatedly.

dblboinger

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I don't think anyone is trying to talk you out of getting it, they're just saying don't rush into it. Make sure you know what you are getting beforehand so you don't get screwed. Some people will sell you a worn out car for a new car price in a heartbeat if they think they can get away with it. And that is a lot of miles for an FD, unless it's been rebuilt. I agree with SLOASFK, with 101k on the ticker and with an automatic, I'd only think the FD would be worth $7k-$9k depending on the condition of everything else. Combined with the $15k cash I'd think that's a little low for a 06 350z. Just my opinion.

car hugger

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Take the car to a rotary specialist and have a compression test done on the motor. With a 101k on the clock you need to know the engines health before you commit. If you think its not important to have the test performed before you accept, make sure you have at least 5k on hand for worst case scenarios. I actually paid a rotary specialist a $100 to come with me and test the car before I bought mine.

Take a boost gauge with you and hook it up and drive the car watch for a 10-8-10 boost pattern, 4300-4500 is the transition.

Read the FAQ for 3rd Gens. We are not trying to steer you away but we do this as a warning to those that are not mechanically and financially inclined.

My suggestion is to take the deal and sell the car immediately and get yourself a 5speed instead and also get a cheap daily driver.

newjerseyradcliff

well thank you guys for the advice. i agree that the rx7 plus 15k is low for the z, he wants 8900 for the rx7 so that only works out to 24k when the car is easily worth over 30. like i said i am in a bind and i just wanted to know if the car would be worth haveing, i do not think it was rebuilt and the noise i mentioned above has me a bit worried, i am going today to find out if he will buy the car outright and then i can purchase the rx7 i want, (lower miles and standerd) you guys are vary helpfull and i cant wait to get into an rx7, if anyone knows of a good deal on one please let me know i know they are all over but maybe theres a really good deal? anyway thanks so much and i will let you know what happens

crcleofdst

Based on your last post, I would say don't do it. 101k on an original motor is a lot, and its a big gamble to assume that it has very much life left. Automatics aren't very desirable either. If I were you, I would hold out for the right buyer and get what your z is worth. Then, if your heart is set on the 3rd gen RX7, you will have plenty of money left over to purchase a good running 5spd example.

If you make the trade, you will end up spending 5 or 6k on the car to make it right. Which, if my calculations are correct, puts you right around the average cost of a good running FD.


Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

dblboinger

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[QUOTE= i know they are all over but maybe theres a really good deal? anyway thanks so much and i will let you know what happens[/QUOTE]

Actually FD's are somewhat rare, only about 40,000 imported (I think). When you figure how many are wrecked, scrapped or otherwise out of commission it doesn't leave many. I looked for 6 years before I finally bought one, a '93 with 2k on a rebuild and both new turbos. The guy was asking $17k, I got him down to $13K. I wouldn't sell it for twice that.

SLOASFK

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wow 40.000...There were barely more than 40,000 produced for the entire world in the 10 years they were in production.

We got less than 13,500. There are less than 10,000 left on the road according to the registration numbers from 2005.

Oh and the OP probably thinks they are all over because he lives real close to KDR, which has something like 50 FDs on their lot at any given time.

dblboinger

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I'll be damned. I didn't know they were that rare. Want to know exactly how rare your car is? Check this out:

[edit] Third Generation RX-7 USA Sales Figures (1993-1995)
Year: 1993

Model R1 BS BS-P TR-A TR-P
Competition Yellow Mica 350 0 0 0 0
Vintage Red 1177 151 731 430 1775
Brilliant Black 138 109 418 244 954
Silver Stone Metallic 1 58 266 187 824
Montego Blue Metallic 0 72 319 258 1015

Year:.... 1994

Model R2 BS-A BS-P PE-P TR-A TR-P
Chaste White 0 26 54 203 63 276
Perlie White 0 0 0 1 0 0
Vintage Red 156 14 60 159 59 248
Brilliant Black 156 16 48 150 42 235
Silver Stone Metallic 83 4 22 74 26 118
Montego Blue Metallic 0 50 116 323 105 516

Year:.... 1995

Model R2 Base (auto) Base (manual) PEP (auto) PEP (manual)
Chaste White 0 2 13 2 33
Vintage Red 23 7 19 5 69
Brilliant Black 18 5 21 9 62
Silver Stone Metallic 16 2 6 4 34
Montego Blue Metallic 0 10 23 16 101

Grand Total:..13,879

Information obtained from Wikipedia.com

dblboinger

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Well, the damn columns didn't line up right, but with a little effort you can figure it out. My Montego Blue 93 Base (manual) was 1 of 319 imported. Wonder how many are left.

grimple1

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If the engine hasn't been rebuilt then, you can pretty much go ahead and count out 5 grand (or maybe less) for an engine rebuild and any modifications.

Don't move into a worse situation from a bad situation. I know you're in a bind but another 48 hours isn't going to make or break it. LOOK AROUND!

SLOASFK

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http://alecto.bittwiddlers.com/vehic...-numbers.shtml

GoodfellaFD3S

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If you bring the car out to Ihor and I in Clifton NJ we can test the compression and give it a thorough going-through. We've been in the FD scene for more than twenty combined years......

newjerseyradcliff

well i ended up getting the 7 ihave the compression red out and it is all good the motor was acually rebuilt and stands at about 60k? the only thing i noticed is that the tranny shifts hard from first (auto), is this normal for these cars every other gear shifts vary smooth? also what does the hold button do? hold it in that gear? just so you know i am not an idiot i just am not able do drive the car right now so i cant play and figure it all out on my own. and how are the trannys when you shift them manually, there is a pattern showing to do it but i would rather not hurt the car, maaybe its made to??? i will post pics asap and i would like to get the car to goodfellafd3s and see what we can do, e-mail me if you can or post here and let me know when we can do somthing, i will have to tow there car. also interested in maybe alittle power adder but we can talk about this later. Thank you guys for the info

newjerseyradcliff

o yeah how do i figure out which model the car is?

SLOASFK

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If it's a 93, it could only be a Base, Touring or R1. Snce it's an auto, it could only be a Base or Touring.

Does it have a sunroof and rear wiper?

newjerseyradcliff

yes and leather

mono4lamar

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^ Then you have a touring edition... Or as others know as the PEP

SLOASFK

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Not trying to start a fight, but the Touring is distinctly different from the PEP/PEG.

Functionally, the Touring has the BOSE soud system w/ CD player, fog lights and rear wiper. The PEP/PEG don't.