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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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New R1 Spoiler.

I just installed a new R1 spoiler on my 94 Touring.

I can tell that I will have to be very careful that I do not get curb damage - it sits about 2 inches lower than my stock trim peice did.

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  1. Does anyone have a photo of the ducting from the R1 spoiler to the disk brakes (if there is any)?
  2. I can see that it will be more difficult to keep it clean and free of wax (I hate the way the white wax looks on black trim) I will have to be more careful.

    How do you dress your spoilers? Do you use Armor-all?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I have the 99 front lip and it's looking pretty crappy and grey now. I have been using everything from Armor All, to tire wet type products. I've even tried using "bumper black" it's like a dye used by detailers to make black trim pieces looking new.

Nothing lasts very long.

I am considering painting it glossy black with Krylon Fusion Paint, the stuff that is supposed to bond at the molecular level with plastic. But, if I screw it up, I'll be buying a new one.

I'd be interesed in hearing what other peeps do.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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I wonder if painting would take any of the elasticity out of the peice?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jpandes
I have the 99 front lip and it's looking pretty crappy and grey now. I have been using everything from Armor All, to tire wet type products. I've even tried using "bumper black" it's like a dye used by detailers to make black trim pieces looking new.

Nothing lasts very long.

I am considering painting it glossy black with Krylon Fusion Paint, the stuff that is supposed to bond at the molecular level with plastic. But, if I screw it up, I'll be buying a new one.

I'd be interesed in hearing what other peeps do.
Have you tried Mother's Back to Black? I've used it on all the exterior black trim on my FD it works really great. In fact, the trim around the driver's side window was turning gray because I got gas all over it(long story). I tried Armor All and tire wet, but that stuff worked for like a day. After a few applications of the Mother's stuff, it looks brand spankin' new!
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yuichiror
Have you tried Mother's Back to Black? I've used it on all the exterior black trim on my FD it works really great. In fact, the trim around the driver's side window was turning gray because I got gas all over it(long story). I tried Armor All and tire wet, but that stuff worked for like a day. After a few applications of the Mother's stuff, it looks brand spankin' new!
Sounds like we have a winner....

I will give this stuff a try.

Thanks.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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I have been using "Son of a Gun" protectant on my R1 lip. It has a sunscreen in it, that should help reduce sun damage. It also leaves a nice shine.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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everybody knows 303 aerospace protectant/conditioner is the best for plastic. farrrr better than any meguiars, mothers, armor all protectants (complete crap that i use for wheel wells....)... longest lasting and IMO its the best product for plastic ive used for years. give it a try, probably some samples over at 303products.com . Sonus eclispe (or something with total and eclipse) is good too. give that a try!!
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If you have wax on the piece that left a white residue, get out the peanut butter. Yes, peanut butter. That'll take the wax off quite nicely.

If you plan on doing a big wax job on the car, just take the lip spoiler off before you start or mask it off.

I use Eagle One tire shine gel - has a foam applicator, and it's kind of a gel type stuff. I put it on the tires, the lip spoiler, the black aero things in front of the rear tires, and the black plastic bottom under the rear spoiler. Doesn't last forever but looks just fine.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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I use the Back-to-Black stuff as well, its pretty decent, def better than the armor all stuff I think.

ducting...
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
If you have wax on the piece that left a white residue, get out the peanut butter. Yes, peanut butter. That'll take the wax off quite nicely.

If you plan on doing a big wax job on the car, just take the lip spoiler off before you start or mask it off.

I use Eagle One tire shine gel - has a foam applicator, and it's kind of a gel type stuff. I put it on the tires, the lip spoiler, the black aero things in front of the rear tires, and the black plastic bottom under the rear spoiler. Doesn't last forever but looks just fine.

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But then I will need a dog to eat the peanut butter!!!

I don't think I will remove it again unless I have to, getting the tabs pressed into the slot is a pain and seems to be a 'few times only' deal where sooner or later the tabs will break. I will mask it to do a thorough wax job.

Thanks for the PB tip. I'd never heard of that.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wReX
I use the Back-to-Black stuff as well, its pretty decent, def better than the armor all stuff I think.

ducting...
Thanks, I guess I need to find/purchase the ducts if Iever take the car to the track.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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I replaced one of my ducts, as it was broken off the car by a previous owner. I seem to remember it was pretty reasonably priced even brand-new, or at least reasonable for a Mazda part . Broken stuff like that annoys the HELL out of me, so that was fixed pronto on my car .

The R1 brake duct actually clips onto the stock panel that's there. But, I think the new part comes with the regular panel and the brake duct.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Do not know if this will help but this is what mine look like. I have an 94 R2..sort of
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
If you have wax on the piece that left a white residue, get out the peanut butter. Yes, peanut butter. That'll take the wax off quite nicely.
And how did you find this out?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL
I wonder if painting would take any of the elasticity out of the peice?
It shouldn't affect the elasticity as long as whoever paints it adds the flex agent to the paint. (The same stuff that is used for urethane bumpers). I personally would paint it black rather than using a protectant. Paint just looks better and you don't have to worry about wax residue.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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EXPERTS CHOICE - black leather dye restorer - with foam applicator.

"heavily pigmented dye covers all scuffs, scratches, and worn areas leaving a water resistant durable finish"

I lightly sanded my with 220, wiped them off and applied several coats of this leather dye. Misted a duplicolor clear coat which produced lightly stippled finish. They look brand new .

Attached pic doesnt really do it justice, but they were pretty hammered before the restoration.

Prior to this process I had always used BACK TO BLACK.

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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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can we get better pics of your restored spoiler?
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Don't forget mothers back to black
works wonders on anything plastic/rubber

doesnt even have to be black
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Tad
Don't forget mothers back to black
works wonders on anything plastic/rubber

doesnt even have to be black
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFox
can we get better pics of your restored spoiler?
stealthfox, I will get a better pic on here for you.
chuck
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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I never do anything to the lip but clean it. Keep it clean and wax free and you don't need any dressing products.

When I wax my car with the orbital buffer I spend about 15 mins with blue painters tape masking the lip, moldings, marker lights etc. Then I can go to town with the buffer and get finished mucho quick. I can lay wax down on the car so fast I actually have to take a break before any of it is ready to be buffed.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by a3dcadman
stealthfox, I will get a better pic on here for you.
chuck
thanks a lot, it looks really nice from what i can see
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