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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Hi everyone, this place seems really active. I am excited to start posting here. I am usually over at e46fanatics. i have an FD also and it never occured to me to join another forum.

Anyway i did a few searchs as i am not a noob to the whoel forum thing but i got 2 quick questions that would be quite helpful if you all could answer for me

1. I need a new suspension. I have major wheel hop. I am thinking about HR springs and Tockiko shocks, is this a good setup? Suspension tech sways are good? i ahve about 1200 to soend on parts so please suggest some good setups!

2. Who sells good quality floor mats, i cant seem to find any?

here is my FD

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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welcome to the forums and enjoy. nice looking fd too

this is a great place to share ideas and get some help when you need it.

but beware of the scumbags. yes there are some here.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GarrettF
1. I need a new suspension. I have major wheel hop. I am thinking about HR springs and Tockiko shocks, is this a good setup? Suspension tech sways are good? i ahve about 1200 to soend on parts so please suggest some good setups!
For suspension, first tell us what you plan to do with the car? Are you just straight drag racing it, road racing, street driving only?

Wheel hop can sometimes be just a problem with not knowing how to slip the wheels properly. You can reduce it, but rarely is it completely eliminated.

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2. Who sells good quality floor mats, i cant seem to find any?
https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-center-69/3rd-gen-upgraded-floor-mats-rx7-logo-color-your-choice-gb-390344/
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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wheel hop can also be eliminated with a diff brace.
Like mahjik said, what will you be using the car for?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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the problem is in you wheels and tires, please take them off and pm me a asking price.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Mileage on the FD? it could be worn diff bushings causing your wheel hop
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CANRX7GX
wheel hop can also be eliminated with a diff brace.
Like mahjik said, what will you be using the car for?
ok ok i guess some background.

the car is a 93 touring purchased in nov 92 new, the body has 35k on it the motor is pretty much new

I gave the car to Peter Farrell's shop who installed his 500hp kit( ported race motor, Eeectromotive TEC 2 engine management, 1200 cc secondary injectors, etc...) but instead of the T78 single turbo, i have a TD06 turbo, the car has no cat and its a straight pipe all the way back, ACT clutch, Preasure plate and Flywheel. etc all power mods... besides that the suspension is bone stock and over 10 years old, the car is obviously a work in progress, my daily is a BMW, i plan to use the car mostly for street driving but i want to be able to launch it without significant wheel hop, i would love to be able to drag it for kicks a few times but i am really into AutoX. honestly i love this car more then anything in the world, i just want to be able to harness all the power it is making, right now once i am rolling i feel incredibly fast, but i cant launch,

any advice is appreciated!
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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the problem is in you wheels and tires, please take them off and pm me a asking price.
hahaha, i like my Fikse FM-10's and Dunlop sp sport 9000's 17x8 fornt 17x10 rear 285's on the back, sorry they aren't for sale!
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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try mazdatrix for the floor mats.............
you may be able to find some on ebay
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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I just bought some floormats from tri point engineering for $70. They fit nicely, and seem to be of good quality. They do not have a logo.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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hahaha, i like my Fikse FM-10's and Dunlop sp sport 9000's 17x8 fornt 17x10 rear 285's on the back, sorry they aren't for sale!
i agree, take those things off, i will arrange for pick up.

welcome
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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thanks, ill look into that

any opinion on a suspension?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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hey, i'm on long island too.
let me know if you need any help.

for suspension, go over to the Suspension forum and search on posts by howard coleman. read them all. he is the man for suspension.

you can overcome wheel hop by replacing diff and trailing arm bushings and using good tires.

oh - read the FAQ stickies. There actually is a lot of very good info in there.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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i read alot of that stuff, i think i am going to repace those bushings for sure

i was just curious what differnt people said bout suspension setups, i searched and read a bunch in the suspnsion foums, i was just looking for specific expereinces from people on a not so technical basis.

i got good tires, brand new spsport 9000's 285's
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Garrett,

With $1200, you are right on the edge of some of the coilover setups. Tein Flex Coilovers are just a little above that and a lot of people seem to like them.

If you want to save a bit of money and still have a good setup, I would go with Konis or Tokicos and the RSR Race Springs. With the shocks, it's up to you; each one has benefits. I'm using the Tokicos myself (with Tein S-Tech springs).
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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"Launch Kit, Track Pro Race
The hot, hot set up for drag racing as the name implies but was originally designed for road racing to eliminate toe steer and improve handling. The kit includes two lower links, two rear toe links & Delran dif mount bushings. For drag racing wheel hop can cause diff and axle failures by multiplying force from induced rebound (load/unload/load) actions. This modification eliminates induced rebound and rear wheel toe steer caused by the stock lower link’s rubber bushings. Solid Delran replacements minimize compliance that the stock liquid filled diff mounts allow. The toe links are made out of aluminum and anodized black. They use a heim joint with a Teflon insert to completely eliminate any and all flex that the stock rubber bushings allow. Perfect for drag and road racing. Not recommended for street use as the Delran bushings transmit some power train vibration into the chassis. Lower links are manufactured from chrome molly tubing with Teflon insert heim joints. The diff mount bushings are CNC machined from solid Delran. Complete with stainless hardware and everything necessary for a professional installation.
For off-road or racing use only
Price: $549.99"
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GarrettF
1. I need a new suspension. I have major wheel hop. I am thinking about HR springs and Tockiko shocks, is this a good setup? Suspension tech sways are good? i ahve about 1200 to soend on parts so please suggest some good setups!
I've heard better things about Koni shocks than Tokicos. Search the suspension section for rubbing and you'll find a lot more people seem to have issues with Tokicos. If you read howard coleman's posts on suspensions, you'll see that the stock shocks work very well with springs - H&R or Eibachs. Given the roads around here, I'd recommend against higher rate springs like the RSRs

If what you are looking to cure is wheel hop, your best bet is a set of trailing arms from rotary extreme and replacing the stock diff bushings with some urethane/nylon bushings. Some say the KGparts diff brace eliminates wheel hop, but I have it on my track car and still get wheel hop accelerating hard in 1st.

Good luck.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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where can i got the diff and other bushings you mentioned, i assume on a 14yearold car most of the bushings are shot

btw it looks like i am orddring koni adjustables and HR springs and suspention tech sways, anyone know the cheapest place?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Here's the biggest money saving tip you will ever get here: join Mazda Motorsports. All you have to do to join is run 2 auto-x a year. You then get access to parts for less than dealer cost, as well as killer prices on the later Japan-only parts (Efini y-pipe, 99 brakes, etc). A few of the bigger part replacements will pay for years of auto-x. Besides, it's good to learn how to handle your car better.

Barring that, call Ray Crowe at Malloy Mazda. They are a large Mazda dealer in Virginia and Ray is very knowledgable and sells parts at very low prices, often with free or cheap shipping.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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I run the Tokico / H&R sport spring setup on my track car - road course, that is, so I have little experience to help with wheel hop on launch. No complaints on the Tokico's, but the H&R springs are a tad soft. I think my R1 springs were stiffer, and yes, I do rub the fender liner at times, even when running "full stiff" on the Tokico's (stock rims & tires). On the other hand, with the Tokico's set to 1 the car rides very nice and pillowy around town. And the ride height with H&Rs looks great, not sure what the exact drop is.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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this sounds good but i usually run my autox's in with my BMW CCA chapter, my 7 has been in a agrage for about 4 years now only recently have i taken her out again, but i will definately look into Madza Motorsports.
so stock bushings should be used as replacements, nothing fancy like poly bushings?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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i use r7.com's nylon diff bushings, they elminated my wheel hop but you still have to deal with the stock diff which goes bad and then you start breaking axles after a while. I would recomend exactly what you are doing with the suspension then get the stiffer bushings, I wouldn't recomend the diff brace just fix the root of the problem which is those horrible liquid filled stock bushings.

BTW...welcome to the forum Garrett
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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If you want a 22-year SCCA RX-7 racing veteran's opinion on bushings in the FD, I strongly urge you to read posts by Howard Coleman. In fact, every FD owner modifying their suspension in any way would be well served by doing just that. If everyone here did, HKS and Apexi wouldn't sell another coilover product here (except to drifters).
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
If you want a 22-year SCCA RX-7 racing veteran's opinion on bushings in the FD, I strongly urge you to read posts by Howard Coleman. In fact, every FD owner modifying their suspension in any way would be well served by doing just that. If everyone here did, HKS and Apexi wouldn't sell another coilover product here (except to drifters).
thank you for the tip, i have read alot of his posts and i was never considering HKS or Apexi suspension products. I am pretty sure that i am going with H+R springs and Tokiko shocks.

And soem diff bushings
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