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Old 12-12-05, 02:57 AM
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New FD Owner w/ Pics and advice/help wanted

Hi, ive been around a little while and have an rx8 and got a showroom condition CYM for dirt, i dont have a camera so i took a couple pics from a cell.





I plan on setting up boost, EGT Temp, water and oil pressure guages, swapping out to a aluminum fluidyne or koyo(not 100% sure which) a Petit AST or possibly an AST removal, a downpipe, a BOV of some variety, a boost controller, all new silicon vacuum lines, and possibly new coolant hoses and high pressure fuel lines, as well as a piggyback ecu and boost controller so i dont boost spike with the downpipe. It has a 15k old rebuild, and im looking to take the car to a local rotary shop to check everything out namely compression. Even though it doesnt matter the car idles smooth and both turbo's kick in properly and it starts up promptly and every time, and seems to run very well, but knowing these cars it will probably blow up in a few months and i'll have to rebuild >.>
Any suggestions for more reliability mods and things in particular to have checked out when i take it in?

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From your description and mods you want to make the car should last you long and serve you well if you treat her good and the rebuilt was done well so have good care of it and she should not let you down. Good idea to have her checked so that you will know exactly what you have.

Look like you had a good pick. Beautiful car.
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Reliability mods and maintenance are all covered in the FAQ and links list.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/

Also change the fuel filter.

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Gorgeous car, StealthFox. I envy you; I'm still waiting for my turn to become an owner.
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you consider "dirt" to be for your CYM?
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^ lol.......yeah, there'd be PLENTY of people willing to pay a few rocks for that car!
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Reliability mods and maintenance are all covered in the FAQ and links list.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=68640

Also change the fuel filter.

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Thanks a lot for the direction.
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lets say dirt as in less than what most would pay for it ;D
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Looks good.

The first pic looks like a shot from a video game
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how much are those piggy back ecus? you could find a pettit unlimited or M2 stageII or III for around 500-600 dollars. just check the classifieds. im running most of those mods on a knightsports ECU and its perfect.
IMO the stock BOV sounds quite nice.

Make sure to warm up and cool down the car properly and it should last you a long time.
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congrats on the car,
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Originally Posted by Meiogirl
how much are those piggy back ecus? you could find a pettit unlimited or M2 stageII or III for around 500-600 dollars. just check the classifieds. im running most of those mods on a knightsports ECU and its perfect.
IMO the stock BOV sounds quite nice.

Make sure to warm up and cool down the car properly and it should last you a long time.

a guy up here in edmonton was selling his pettie for like 600cdn i dont know if he still has it though
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Don't bother with a EGT guage, get yourself a real wideband, gas pressure electric guage with a regulator, proper 2ndary injectors "1300 or 1600s" with fuel rail, walbro 255 fuel pump and profec b type 2 boost controller with a power FC if you want to up the boost past 10psi. Or you could get yourself a pettit ecu instead of the power FC if $$ is tight..
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read up befor you turn the boost up.. unless u really wanna rebuild the motor soon
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the first pic looks like its from a video game
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Originally Posted by Jxy nyc
Don't bother with a EGT guage, get yourself a real wideband, gas pressure electric guage with a regulator, proper 2ndary injectors "1300 or 1600s" with fuel rail, walbro 255 fuel pump and profec b type 2 boost controller with a power FC if you want to up the boost past 10psi. Or you could get yourself a pettit ecu instead of the power FC if $$ is tight..
Sounds a little like overkill for someone who's keeping their stock twins and hasn't even mentioned midpipe yet. They'll prob never boost more than 14lbs. I'd say the ECU would be enough and perhaps the fuel pump as a precaution.
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Originally Posted by vellj001
From your description and mods you want to make the car should last you long and serve you well if you treat her good and the rebuilt was done well so have good care of it and she should not let you down. Good idea to have her checked so that you will know exactly what you have.

Look like you had a good pick. Beautiful car.
thanks for the kind comments.
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Originally Posted by SiKoPaThX
Sounds a little like overkill for someone who's keeping their stock twins and hasn't even mentioned midpipe yet. They'll prob never boost more than 14lbs. I'd say the ECU would be enough and perhaps the fuel pump as a precaution.
yeah sort of what i was thinking too...im not even going to be removing my cat and the intake is a maybe and the boost won't be going over 10 psi...
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is it originally a cym? For a car of which supposedly only 350 were sold here, there's sure getting to be more and more of them popping up in good shape. Nice.

I had a M2 stage-3 on my cym with a DP, Intake, IC (M2 Medium), HF cat and bonez cat-back and it was plenty rich through 10-11psi so if you're not looking to get too radical then I'd say you would be fine with something like that. No real need for a wbo2 since you can't tune it anyhow...

- say - what color is your rx8?

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but knowing these cars it will probably blow up in a few months and i'll have to rebuild >.>

Please don't make ignorant comments like this. These engines just don't blow for the hell of it. There is always a reason. It's comments like this that make visitors to this forum think that our engines aren't reliable.

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is it originally a cym? For a car of which supposedly only 350 were sold here, there's sure getting to be more and more of them popping up in good shape. Nice.

I had a M2 stage-3 on my cym with a DP, Intake, IC (M2 Medium), HF cat and bonez cat-back and it was plenty rich through 10-11psi so if you're not looking to get too radical then I'd say you would be fine with something like that. No real need for a wbo2 since you can't tune it anyhow...

- say - what color is your rx8?

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... >.> yes i've checked the vin, it is a true blue R1 competition yellow mica

the rx8 is a t4'd 325whp SS.
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Please don't make ignorant comments like this. These engines just don't blow for the hell of it. There is always a reason. It's comments like this that make visitors to this forum think that our engines aren't reliable.
i obviously know that they don't blow up for absolutely no reason, i was being sarcastic because well, they almost do blow for no reason and im definately not downplaying the car's reliability, it is a known reason and its simply the car's reputation and i'm being on the safe side instead of being cocky and spending all of my money on power mods that will probably harm my car at this point. Every FD owner i've encountered has agreed with me 100%, these cars are not the most reliable cars around.
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Every FD owner i've encountered has agreed with me 100%, these cars are not the most reliable cars around.

Even though you were joking, it still leads to someone being mislead. I have never had any sort of reliability problems with my Fd what so ever. And that's with 102,000 original miles. I still have the stock cat and exhaust, original vacuum lines, and even the original radiator. Both original turbos work flawless and don't leak oil. Hell I even run 89 octane with the small mods I have (down pipe & modified stock air box w/k&N filter) I control my boost with a manual boost controller. What it boils down too is keeping the engine free of carbon deposits (so the seals don't stick)and running stock boost levels with your mods on the stock ecu. Also run filtered or distilled water in your cooling system since tap water is more corrosive. Lastly cool the engine down before shut down. My results speak for themselves.

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Even though you were joking, it still leads to someone being mislead. I have never had any sort of reliability problems with my Fd what so ever. And that's with 102,000 original miles. I still have the stock cat and exhaust, original vacuum lines, and even the original radiator. Both original turbos work flawless and don't leak oil. Hell I even run 89 octane with the small mods I have (down pipe & modified stock air box w/k&N filter) I control my boost with a manual boost controller. What it boils down too is keeping the engine free of carbon deposits (so the seals don't stick)and running stock boost levels with your mods on the stock ecu. Also run filtered or distilled water in your cooling system since tap water is more corrosive. Lastly cool the engine down before shut down. My results speak for themselves.
ok, lets think about that for a second.

1. your personal experience with the cars will affect your attitude towards it tenfold compared to what you hear. common sense leads one to concur you are biased because of your atypical experience.

2. i say atypical experience because well, it is whether you like to believe it or not. most people don't have jolly problem free experiences and when i say most i mean most talk to 100 owners and more than half will have experienced *some* sort of reliability problem or difficulty in their ownership of the car with its original engine.

3. i can worry all i want about my car, i have no idea on the history of the owners and how the car's engine has been treated or not because im still in the process of researching that, and untill i find out, i might as well assume that it was driven around by an older lady and there is massive carbon deposits built up and there have been a lot of cold hard starts and possibly flooding. i can also assume that the car was driven like it was stolen and the engine has gone through a lot of wear and tear with little maintenance. once i get a compression check and lookover and get a little history on how the car has been maintained and get an idea of how much i should worry about how soon a rebuild will be necessary. i think most knowledgable rx7 owners will agree that i should be very cautious about this engine untill i check its health and more likely than not its going to need a rebuild in the next 15,000 miles.

-a completely clueless newbie.
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ok, lets think about that for a second.

1. your personal experience with the cars will affect your attitude towards it tenfold compared to what you hear. common sense leads one to concur you are biased because of your atypical experience.

It's not atypical because 90% of the people that blow their engines don't know WTF they were doing at the time to know what caused the engine to actually go in the first place. As I said no engine just blows for the hell of it. There is always a reason. I've owned 3 other Rx7 (4 total) so I know a little thing about how to properly maintain a rotary powered vehicle. Just because my Fd is turbo charged doesn't mean that it too can't last nearly as long as a NA rotary. I'm not trying to make myself look special, just trying to give advice on how to make them last; which is basically the bases of your question right?. Trust me it's the little things that make a differance.


3. i can worry all i want about my car, i have no idea on the history of the owners and how the car's engine has been treated or not because im still in the process of researching that, and untill i find out, i might as well assume that it was driven around by an older lady and there is massive carbon deposits built up and there have been a lot of cold hard starts and possibly flooding. i can also assume that the car was driven like it was stolen and the engine has gone through a lot of wear and tear with little maintenance. once i get a compression check and lookover and get a little history on how the car has been maintained and get an idea of how much i should worry about how soon a rebuild will be necessary. i think most knowledgable rx7 owners will agree that i should be very cautious about this engine untill i check its health and more likely than not its going to need a rebuild in the next 15,000 miles.

-a completely clueless newbie.

You odvioulsy have more knowledge than most people on this forum. This makes me wonder why you even started this thread?

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