matty

yeah...i am interested too...but it comes down to lag.
If these are parallel or laggy in generally i will end up gt35/40. kinda of want to make my decision by spring...hope there are guinea pigs outthere.

$150FC

there will (assuming everything comes to plan) be numbers/charts/etc on or about March 7.

they can be run sequential or parallel, just like the old stage IIIs.

victor

C-westin'FD

Looks good!!

gaxo6

Damn dude, Those look super awsome YO!!!

fd3virgin

damn, what are you doing to bryan to deserve this house call can he stop by my place. k

blueskaterboy

ive heard bad things about smoking, etc. with bnrs... so these do not smoke or have problems?

and yeah i really would like to see boost and hp numbers too...

its either these or a 3540 for me.

duboisr

SPO auto,, what do you think of the install of the big BNR turbos in Garfinkles car . They do not smoke , and the car pulls very good . He hopes to get it tuned in March . The new AEM twin-capacltive discharge ignition was put in today .

SPOautos

Yea, man Garfinkles car is awsome. They look great in there. I checked out his AEM ignition when I was there, it looks pretty nice. He's supposed to be coming to B'ham the first weekend of March to have Steve tune his car. You should come down that weekend man. I think there will be quite a few people here.

Guys, for those of you concerned about smoke, that was really only one run (granted it was a large run) of turbos that BNR did and my understanding is it was caused by a defective part that he bought. Which goes back to me saying he was having to much trouble finding good replacement parts for the oem stuff and went with this new design. In addition Bryan has stood by his warrenty for everyone that had problems and from my understanding they have all been fixed. These new turbo have 100% brand new high quality cartridges in them and there shouldnt be any problems.


STEPHEN

duboisr

Talk about Brians warrenty,on Garfinkles car the smokers were replaced with the trial set up with the large houseings .Brian was tring to find his fix for every one . The replacement had to cost him plenty . Brian did not ask for any more money because the first set was under warenty .David said he had to have lost money on the trial set ,as the parts are brand new . He could have just kept replacing the bad seals untill a good set turned up ( the cheap fix ) . Instead he found a better replacement .The set Garfinkle put in was very hard to install because of the bigger size . I think most customers would not be able to make them work as David did . So Brian continued working untill a solution was found that everyone can use .I would think most business would not have tried as hard to find a fix for a warrenty issue .Brian and David spent plenty just on telephone calls during this time .Yes Brian is the MAN .

Detbyron

Yeah, stage 3's had a bad reputation for smoking. There are some in use that do not smoke, though.
That is the reason that they are not currently available, and are being re-designed.

We're all assuming that these new ones will not have any issues

Zyon13B

So, are these new ones equal to or better than the stage 3's? In terms of HP and spool up.

matty

do you read the thread before u post?

artguy

please explain....


j

artguy

im sure he is asking for clarification. this new set is untested correct? the answer seems to be very gray.

the correct answer is...we wait and see.

larger shafts equal slower spoolup time yes?

I am excited to see the new sets hitting the dyno.


j

matty

not really....i ahve read 5-10 times on both of the two threads that they are untested. Doesnt sound gray to me.

Zyon13B

Yes, I did read. But like artguy said it's not too clear. A lot of people will browse this looking for them 2 facts and it would be nice if they were posted nice for less confusion. It's obvious you didn't know the answer so you had no business responding to my post.

matty

bro....the answer is undefined cause they arent tested. Whats unclear about that?

Zyon13B

I thought maybe SPO got a rough idea from Brian. I'm just saying there's no need to respond to me (or flame) if you don't know, just let it go till someone can answer it.

$150FC

Well, yes, Stephen's talked to Bryan, I've talked to Bryan, a lot of us have talked to Bryan. But there is no way to tell...until we test it.

And as I said earlier, the first sets will be put on a Dyno March 7th.

So your question had already been answered, right?

SPOautos

Yes, at this point non of them have hit the dyno so there is no HP or spool numbers. If you want me to "guess" I'm going to say they should make as much as the old stage 3's and I have no idea about spool.

Garfinkle has a set in his car and they have NO smoking issues at all. Internally they are exactly the same as the ones I showed a pic of. The reason Garfinkle's were hard to fit is cause they have a larger compressor housing on them (as a test I think). The sets BNR will be selling have the stock compressor housings unless its proven via Garfinkles car that the larger housings makes a lot more power, in which case it'll prob be an extra charge for those larger housings.

As for his warrenty work, yes he lost a LOT of money on them but he stands by his word like he said he would. That about all anyone can ask for in this industry.....and from what I've seen its actually a lot to ask for cause not many RX7 spacific companies stand behind thier products like that. He took it in the *** and still kept a smile on his face about it never once complaining about warrently work.

STEPHEN

POM HB

Whoa!

Brian did take it....may be not in da azz tho. But, that's what count when you choose who you wanna deal with.

BTW, about the smoke from the last stage 3, did BNR test some prototypes before the product was put on the market?

POM HB

RotorMotor

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ok a larger compressor housing.... im not sure i understand how that helps.... if the internals are completely the same then in which dimension is it larger? im assuming it cant be the chamber where the compressor wheel spins.... so are you just saying that the "exhaust pipe" for the compressor is larger supposedly creating more efficiant flow?

also whats the problem with these larger compressor housings? clearance? maybe this was already mentioned.. if so sorry.

lastly, can anyone comment if any "porting" is done to the cast exhaust manifolds to make them flow a little better? im sure they can be smoothed out to create less drag and less turbulance

SPOautos

Yes, actually I tested a set on my car and made 412rwhp on a dynojet and drove it for quite a while with no problems before he started selling them. I think what happened is when he placed a order for parts to build around 20 sets for a big group buy that particular batch of parts he ordered was bad and it ended up costing him a fortune. He has since rebuilt pretty much every one of those sets and from what I understand they are now all ok BUT he decided he didnt want to order parts from that company anymore and they are (I think) the only supplyer for our oem turbo parts.

STEPHEN

POM HB

SPOautos,

That super sucks for BNR, man. Lost money and reputation. When time comes, if there is not cheap single turbo kit around, I'll have to look into this more!

POM HB

duboisr

RotorMotor, to answer your questions you will have to talk to Garfinkle for details . Brian has some pictures . and info but not on every detail .The bigger intake housings should flow more air .