Guyver

http://www.aempower.com

Here is a 20 page discussion about it at the supra forum. RX-7 version should be just as good when it comes out.

http://www.supraforums.com/supravb/s...threadid=10402

JoeD

why be like the guinea pig of AEM. just buy a race proven product...Apex PFC.

JoeD

also, AEM is a rice company. not along the lines of Tenzo R and Weapon R....but still a rice company.

Zoomspeed

Perhaps they're trying to climb their way out of the bowl so to speak.

JoeD

i dont think thats gonna happen any time soon.

i dont blame them....there is a lot of money in selling honda parts. mainly casue you sell to dumbass owners.

BlackR1

Most import aftermarket sales are for cosmetics and cheapie intakes n exhausts...AEM is ricey and is probably trying to increase their product line's perceived value by offering stuff for the higher end cars. I don't think I would want to be their guinea pig

I do wish I was the guy who came up with clear corners, clear turn signals and clear tail lights...i'd be a millionaire by now.

If they make it..someone will buy it...it's like the people who make spandex leggings for plus sized people...just wrong

Guyver

Well the Supra owners seem quite excited about this ECU. And whats wrong with giving AEM a chance? Sure, I've never heard of them before this, but I guess what I'm trying to say is to keep an open mind

The AEM ECU sound pretty good on paper tho. It will be a direct plug in just like PFC and it has full OMP control, datalogging and traction control which are all a big bonus.

I guess only time will tell.

BlackR1

Id be interested in how they manage traction control.. im gonna go read that thread

BlackR1

While I don't doubt the credibility of Jason S' electronic experience (on the supraforum)...he IS working for AEM, so there's gonna be some glorification and hype involved. It sounds almost too good to be true...i'll wait until a third party gets a hold of it and gives the unit a full review on it's capabilities. It soundsl ike it has the potential to be a very very nice standalone unit...but only for the Supra for the time being.

He also has a 3rd Gen....if you're on this forum, speak up!

Alpine

I think they are talking about the stock supra traction control.

Flybye

Why do I have this odd feeling this will push Apexi into supplying the public with the Power Excel software?

lenny

I dont see why just because AEM deals mostly with hondas that they are a "rice company". There are alot of people spending money on their hondas, that is where the money is, it would be stupid for them to not go after that market. Besides, alot of hondas are very nice cars. It is just all the kids that give them a bad reputation.

The AEM computers looks very nice if it does what it says it does. It has many advantages over the power fc. (external outputs, knock control, windows interface). I just got my power fc, and I am very happy with it. I dont think I'm gonna run out and get an AEM computer, but it will definately have a big impact on the market. I hope apex will release their power excel software.

JoeD

yeah...but i think if you're one of those people that will go out and buy it the first week it comes out, you're pretty retarded. i dont think AEM has had a history dealing with rotaries. what if you plug it in, turn your car on, and the engine blows?? its not worth the risk. if i was in the market for this, i would wait about 6 months after to see if the product does what it's supposed to, and does it better than the PFC. (which i doubt)

bottom line, why be the guinea pig for AEM??

Flybye

Bottom line, if AEM was smart, they would be reading this forum to see what we have to say about their ECU...

Freaky Monkey007

Picture this, pretend that you have the stock computer in the car controlling everything as is. But now you want the twins to come on at 3500 instead of 4500, enter it in the software, and you have it. Say you want the auto trans to shift at 8000 and at full line pressure, enter it in the software, and you have it. Say you want the converter to fully lock up in 3rd gear, enter it, and you have it. Say you want straight twins instead of sequential, enter it and you have it. The fuel, timing, boost, shifts, everything the stock ecu controlls, this one does. You can ditch the 3 letter words (BCC, VPC, GCC), you don't need them. You can run mass air, or ditch the Maf and run speed density. Anything you want, control nitrous, individual cylinder fuel and timing, make your hazards come on when you hit 150mph, anything.

Jason S.




I esspically love the last part " make your hazards come on when you hit 150mph......"
lol.. thats freaking funny.. will be kool if it actually does all of this..Will it be released for the 7?? I agree i dont wanta be the gennie pig so i think i will let someone who dosent really care try this out first..If this is what it sounds like this will be the ultimate ecu for the street for under 2k.

Sounds a little too good to be true.. but it is about time someone came out with all of this so who knows.

MattZeeTerror

FYI, I have dealt with the system. I run a aftermarket import shop, and we get to try out alot of products. We tried it out on a 93 Supra TT and it worked great. I dont sugest dissing a company or there products because they sell "rice(honda)" Its the simple fact that they have to spend a good amount of money to build a good working system, and when they do it for your car you complain. It gives the community a bad repuation and manufacters will be less likely to build somthing for the car. This is all in my humble opinion. Let the flames begin.

cash money

does it do everything they say it does?

lenny

FYI - a demo of their software is available for download on their website aempower.com . I looked at it briefly, and it looks very feature rich, but the interface looks unpolished. But that would be easy to fix with a future software upgrade.

Tobal

I think you guys are all trip'n over AEM. I think this is a great company and will one day be up there with Greddy, Apexi, HKS and all the others out there. Just because they are currently marketing the Honda scene, they are a "rice" company. I mean might as well classify the other big companies out there like Trust and everything Rice too. They do hondas. The companies history isn't long and has long marketed the honda scene. I haven't heard any complaints about them and their products. In order for them to be able to put out something, a bunch of research and testing has to be put in it. They do have a AEM sponsored car that is race provened, that their products work. So i wouldn't be worried much about their products. And of coarse their first couple of versions will have their bugs, nothing like blowing the engine at the start of it. I mean the power FC went through 5 versions already. From their first one, it contained bugs already...like the first noticable thing the A/C doesn't work. It all takes time. If you guys are going to hate on this company just cuz they are "ricey" you are might be missing out on some good products they might market towards the rotaries.

Black680hp7

O.K. guys, sorry it's taken so long to come over to the RX7 list, I will try to answer questions as they come up.

First, your right, AEM doesn't have much rotary experience, but I do! I have been building RX7's for years, and have been directly involved with the fastest guys out there. I have worked very closely with Adam, Abel, and Ari. I believe my tuning experience with RX7's speaks for itself. Believe me everything you need is in the new AEM unit. I have had a version of this system on my 93 RX7 for 2 years now. My RX7 makes just under 600hp to the wheels w/o the nitrous, and 680 w/. I do all of my own work as well. Everything I have found over the years that you need to properly set up a rotary is in their.

Please if you can try to read the thread on the Supra forums first, then if you have questions I will be more than happy to answer them. I am also happy to help with tuning advice if you want it.

Jason S.

Bucrx7

Nobody ever reads my post. I posted this earlier in the ECU forum.

The AEM EMS is being released 01/20/02 for the 3rd gen rx7! It's plug & play, 16/32 bit hybrid processor.



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If anyone is going to SEMA, I would highly recommend stopping by the AEM booth. Yes, I know AEM hasn't made much for the Supra's. There is a new Engine Management System that will controll all of the stock Turbo actuators, Automatic transmission controlls and still have plenty of left over outputs to controll anything you desire. The system plugs directly into the stock wiring harness with no wiring adapters (the ECU has the supra plug built in to it). All of the functions are user definable. It has 6 times the functions of a Motec M48 Pro, built in datalogging up to 1 meg (or about 45 minutes of logging all channels). The Software is all Windows based, and very easy to use. The system will sell for under $2k complete. Absolutely nothing needs wired, cut or spliced. The stock ECU can be re-installed at any time for dealer warranties, or smog (did I say that, of course not). Believe me, this thing is bad-***. Oh, it also comes with a complete dyno tuned base map, so start up is as easy as plugging in the stock ecu.
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For more info go to the supra link in the first post

happy rotoring.
P.S. Kurt (forgot his lastname) reknown tuner was just down at Primespeed and had a 3 hour conversation with Barry about this unit. It's gonna be HOT! I also know the prices too! IMHO I think it's going to be better then the Haltech, PFC, Motec.

Tony S.

Black680hp7

Sorry, guess I forgot to mention I am the guy in charge of this project at AEM.

Jason.

Bacon

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will it controll the omp?...this seems interisting, atleast someone is givine the pfc a run for their money......
2 bad its not out now, would be interisting to see it in action

Black680hp7

Everything the stock ecu controls, you can control with the AEM unit (including the metering pump).

Jason.

infinit1

I don't know about you Jason, but we used to go to AEM back in the days for Weber parts for our Earlier Rotaries. We also used to get our Webers Machined from 48 to 51.5 from them. I don't know if all those guys are still there, I think I heard they all left a long time ago, but they knew their fare share about rotaries. I am glad to hear that there is a rotary guy on the job and I hope it works out well cause I am very interested. I like the thought of stand alone ability without the headache of installing the wiring harness. Not that it is hard but to get all the stock stuff to work can be. I would appreciate it if you could let me know when it will be available for the 3rd Gen and how much it will be when it comes out if you could. Also, is the stand alone unit any better then the plug in? If so how?