New AEM ECU sounds real good
11-20-01, 03:09 AM
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Here's the link:
http://www.supraforums.com/supravb/s...5&pagenumber=1
Seems like an awesome system, with more features than the Haltech I was planning to get! Don't dis AEM's ECU yet before it's even been released yet, do so after it's out and people have tested it. I don't mind being a guinea pig since AEM is just around the corner.
On a side note, Apexi American tech support sucks ***, NO DAMN ENGRISH INSTRUCTIONS FOR MOST OF THEIR PRODUCTS.
http://www.supraforums.com/supravb/s...5&pagenumber=1
Seems like an awesome system, with more features than the Haltech I was planning to get! Don't dis AEM's ECU yet before it's even been released yet, do so after it's out and people have tested it. I don't mind being a guinea pig since AEM is just around the corner.
On a side note, Apexi American tech support sucks ***, NO DAMN ENGRISH INSTRUCTIONS FOR MOST OF THEIR PRODUCTS.
11-20-01, 06:19 AM
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This thing is very interesting...and frickin' great if it does 1/2 of what they claim it does.
Last I heard on the release date was January 15th.
Why couldn't the bozzos at Apex do this? Did they really think they could set up a significant dealer/tuner network? It just isn't going to ever work that way in the States. And if AEM pulls this off, Apex is not going to sell many more PFCs.
Damn. Wish I could have waited on buying my PFC...oh well, I won't get upset until AEM proves what it says it can do.
Still...I am very tempted to get one.
Last I heard on the release date was January 15th.
Why couldn't the bozzos at Apex do this? Did they really think they could set up a significant dealer/tuner network? It just isn't going to ever work that way in the States. And if AEM pulls this off, Apex is not going to sell many more PFCs.
Damn. Wish I could have waited on buying my PFC...oh well, I won't get upset until AEM proves what it says it can do.
Still...I am very tempted to get one.
11-20-01, 07:04 AM
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WTF?!?
This was posted by Jason from AEM on the Supra board...He is saying that the AEM will give traction control on the RX-7. How is that possible? If the AEM unit is plug-n-play, then the only inputs it has are what the stock ECU has...I don't get it yet.
"O.K. I see what your getting at. I am sure the racelogic system works great, I personally have never used it. However, the traction control system in our ECU allows you to fine tune the entire system, I have used it in my 93 rx7 and it would allow me to net 0-60 times in 5.5 seconds in the pouring rain, btw my rx7 makes 680hp to the wheels, so believe me it works. How do you set up the racelogic unit?"
"O.K. I see what your getting at. I am sure the racelogic system works great, I personally have never used it. However, the traction control system in our ECU allows you to fine tune the entire system, I have used it in my 93 rx7 and it would allow me to net 0-60 times in 5.5 seconds in the pouring rain, btw my rx7 makes 680hp to the wheels, so believe me it works. How do you set up the racelogic unit?"
11-20-01, 07:10 AM
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OK...
Found this shortly thereafter...
"It is actually quite simple, and very complicated at the same time. I'll try to keep this one brief. By measuring the rate of acceleration in each gear, and knowing the weight of the vehicle, one can detect when traction is lost. This setup was and still is widely used in Formula 1. Obviously if you start to make more power, the traction control will need tweaked. This setup is the more complicated of the bunch, but works just as well when done correctly. We can also use the wheel speed inputs as previously stated"
"It is actually quite simple, and very complicated at the same time. I'll try to keep this one brief. By measuring the rate of acceleration in each gear, and knowing the weight of the vehicle, one can detect when traction is lost. This setup was and still is widely used in Formula 1. Obviously if you start to make more power, the traction control will need tweaked. This setup is the more complicated of the bunch, but works just as well when done correctly. We can also use the wheel speed inputs as previously stated"
11-20-01, 09:20 AM
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Jason, from the experience I have had with it I wana give yall mad props. I was very impressed. My only thing with the program was it isnt to pretty in terms of looks. I figured you guys would have made it more atractive like the guys from venom performance did with there v2000 no system.
11-20-01, 10:02 AM
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The Plug N Play ecu is a stand alone system, not a piggy back.
At this time we have not tested the auto trans control, it is significantly different than that in the Supra. The Mazda has it's own ecu, and in the Supra the main ecu controlls the trans. We need an auto to do the testing. Anyone in the L.A. area with an auto 3rd gen 7?
Jason.
At this time we have not tested the auto trans control, it is significantly different than that in the Supra. The Mazda has it's own ecu, and in the Supra the main ecu controlls the trans. We need an auto to do the testing. Anyone in the L.A. area with an auto 3rd gen 7?
Jason.
11-21-01, 06:52 AM
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Jason:
I am the guy who emailed you to come to the rx-7 forum. I was using my other email address (takeshi988@aol.com) when I emailed you. If you need a auto rx7 to do testing, I will be very happy to help you on that. I am in San Francisco. Give me a date and I will drive down.
Chuck
I am the guy who emailed you to come to the rx-7 forum. I was using my other email address (takeshi988@aol.com) when I emailed you. If you need a auto rx7 to do testing, I will be very happy to help you on that. I am in San Francisco. Give me a date and I will drive down.
Chuck
11-25-01, 02:11 AM
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I'll jump on the bandwagon and start cussing. I've had my FD for 7 plus years now and have had the PFS PMC, M2 stage 3 ecu, and now the PFC. I love the PFC with the handset and tuning capabilities. I hate buying something that gets outdone a few weeks later
How does it control traction on the FD? Can we talk you guys into making one for the FC, a pretty much overlooked car when it comes to ecu's.
Tim Benton
How does it control traction on the FD? Can we talk you guys into making one for the FC, a pretty much overlooked car when it comes to ecu's.
Tim Benton
11-25-01, 02:22 AM
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it should work with FC
I have been reading a lot of Japanese Magazines and I found out a product that FEED sells to make the 3rd Gen RX-7 PFC to work with the 2nd Gen. It basicaly just a wiring harness adaptor that hooks between the PFC and 2nd Gen ECU wiring harness connectors. If AEM does not want to make the ECU connector interface for the 2nd gen, 2nd gen people can just buy the FEED wiring adaptor. I am not a 2nd gen expert since I never owned one before but I think some FC's uses the MAF instead of MAP? If you use the MAF, you need to convert it to MAP I suppose. I hope some 2nd gen owner can eloborate a little on this. I will try to take a pic of the mag and show you guys what I am talking about.
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11-25-01, 10:15 AM
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Here is the picture of the wiring harness adaptor for FC3S I promised. On the wiring harness, it's labled "FC3S late model". My friend is going to Japan in 2 weeks. Want some of those picked up for you FC people?
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11-26-01, 07:40 AM
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The magazine does not show the price so my friend is going to check on the prices while he is in Japan. HKS offers the same thing for the F-con and the harness adaptor is around $150. I think it should be around there.
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Originally posted by Tim Benton
Does it happen to have a price in yen so we can get a ball park figure on the US price?
Tim Benton
Does it happen to have a price in yen so we can get a ball park figure on the US price?
Tim Benton
11-30-01, 05:39 PM
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I am eagerly anticipating the AEM standalone release. I've downloaded the software and played around with it a little and I love it. All though anything is better than my damn stocker ecu! I believe AEM makes quality products and i feel this new product will be top notch as well. Exact release date???
12-06-01, 03:06 PM
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Looks good. Hopfully I'll be getting my 7 shortly after the AEM ECU release and some of you will have a little more to say about it. I'll get it if it doea what it is says it will do.
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12-06-01, 07:24 PM
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Good thing I held off on a Power FC. I'll keep my M2 III until the AEM unit is ready.
As for the AEM bashing, I've never thought of them as a rice company. Toucan Industries, that's a rice company. AEM's adjustable cam gears and their intakes are very high quality if you've ever seen them in real life. In fact, I wish they made a big brake kit for the FD. Pull some strings Jason, I refuse to pay $2800 and up for decent track brakes that use $400 replacement discs.
As for the AEM bashing, I've never thought of them as a rice company. Toucan Industries, that's a rice company. AEM's adjustable cam gears and their intakes are very high quality if you've ever seen them in real life. In fact, I wish they made a big brake kit for the FD. Pull some strings Jason, I refuse to pay $2800 and up for decent track brakes that use $400 replacement discs.
12-06-01, 09:00 PM
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Ok, guys. Heres the deal. A close friend of mine has a performance shop. (Altered Atmosphere Motorsports) They are going to be a distributership of the new AEM ecu and they gave me a little heads up on it. Its gonna coast around $1200 and have windows compatable software not DOS (like Haltech). In a nut shell its supposed to be everything the Haltech is, but easier and better. Time will tell. For now I went with the Haltech, cause I didn't want to be a test mole.
