badddrx7

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I have the large ASP IC and duct and want to make another duct just like it. I tried to buy one by the guy just won't sell me a duct, wants to sell another $1400 IC to get one. So I'll make one. I have made quite a few things out of Fiberglass like a sub box, panels, etc. The large ic duct looks tougher to make. How can I go about making a form of the inside of this duct so I can lay glass on the outside of it ( the form ).

Thanks for your tips

eurautodave

when i made mine i used the spray foam insulation stuff you get at the hardware store. you have to fill the existing duct slowly, building layers of dried foam until you have the proper mold. i slid out the mold then used drywall mud to smooth the surface and after some sanding, i was ready to glass up one kick *** duct.

yuichiror

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Got pics of your duct?

samiralfey

Well, if I understood correctly your question then making a mold from your duct isn't difficult.

Stage 1, preparing the mold:

- First buy a proper wax for fiberglass(mold release wax, PVA or wax-type)
- Then wax the duct MANY times, wait few hours between wax layers.
- Then apply Gelgoat on the surface of the duct, then wait it to dry. Gelcoat is sticky when it's 'dry' so then you know it's a go.
- First a layer of resin on top of the Gelcoat layer
- Then fiberglass one layer and all the air bubbles out with a roller or tapping with a brush and apply as many layers as you want/feel. More layers=stronger mold
- Wait for few hours for the resing to dry
- Carefully remove the mold and behold!, you have a mold of your duct and if you did everything carefully(mainly removing the trapped air bubbles), you will have a perfect mirror copy of your duct that doesn't need any filler etc.

Stage 2, making the duct

As above, wax many times, gelcoat, resin, fiberglass and now you have a duct. Finally coat the raw fibreglass surface with Topcoat(Topcoat= Gelcoat+parafin)


I made a new snowmobile hood with this technique and it came out pretty nice.

akiratdk

wow~~~ are you a body man??? know all dude!!~~ Thumbs up!!

Kevin T. Wyum

You said you wanted to buy a duct from me to use on an ebay intercooler, what did you expect me to say?

nopistons94

pwnd. Kevin is a great guy and his product is worth every penny.

HDP

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Why should it matter? As long as he pays for it, it shouldn't matter if he decides to use it on his head as a hat.

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

somebody might mistake the ebay IC for his IC.

BTW Kevin,

I would post some datalogs taken showing the performance of the xspower IC and my duct....but I'm sure you will just find some retarded reason why it would be invalid.

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

ALSO...

You will need to make the duct in at least two pieces and then put them together. This is because of the complex shape of the duct.

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

That would be a nice hat.

badddrx7

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I like the post on filling the large duct with foam, I believe this will work. That is why I like this forum, someone always willing to help a man out....other that Kevin that is.


Tom

badddrx7

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Also I want to thank Twin turbo 7 for the inspiration to make my own duct, his turned out simply awesome. Really this is what makes owing on thesecars fun, fabbing and working the issues yourself... and with a little help from my friends.

Tom

artowar

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Let's see 'em!

nopistons94

you can't buy just the duct because its not for sale seperatly. Try going to greddy and buying just the piping for a FMIC. Good luck with that.

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

The ambient temperature outside for this run was 9*C. I have stock non-sequential twins. I am not saying this IC is better than the ASP, I am simply showing data logged from my car. I hope it helps.

I will be going to the track on Sunday, I MAY be able to get some logs from a few runs through the 1/4 mile.

artowar

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It's interesting, and I would bet that it's much better than the stock IC, but do you have any logs of sustained high-RPM runs, where a large portion of the time is under boost? Something like you would get from doing driving schools or open lapping events at a closed circuit track would be good. If you haven't seen it, something along the lines of the tests that Shiv performed for the (then) M2 ICs for Sport Compact Car should give you a better feel for how much heat the IC can reject on a steady state basis before it's overloaded, and how quickly it can recover.

HDP

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There's a difference. GReddy is company not out to help anyone but themselves to make a profit. According to prior statements made, Kevin isn't doing this as a means of support, but only to offer the RX community a better solution... in other words to help out his fellow enthusiast. The airpump pipe is for sale separately, so it seems like what is and what's not for sale separately is at the discretion of the salesperson.

Ex. If you went to a shoe store to purchase house slippers and the store owner refused to sell them to you because you might wear them outside and that HIS slippers are only ment to be worn inside, you would probably say... WTF??!!?? If you pay for them, you should be able to wear them anywhere you please...

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

Here is a 1st through 3rd gear run. this is on street tires and it just kind of spun through 1st and second. but like I said, I will try to get some logs at the drag strip tomorrow which will be 1st through 4th gear...I will also be on ET Streets at the track, so no spinning.

I havent ever tracked my car and probably never will. nor would I want to put that much stress on my engine for a test that benefits me in no way. The test you want to see will never come off my car. The closest thing I can get you is 1st-4th at full boost.

TwinTurbo_SE7EN

damnit...double post.

however, I did take my car to Deals Gap last year. Nobody believed me when I stated factual numbers from hard runs through deals gap. In fact, "the important ones" simply disregarded the numbers as bullshit.

I guess my goal for next years deals gap is to get a datalog of the entire 11 miles. Will that make everyone happy?

HDP

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Probably not, but it will make us pioneers for stepping up and trying something new... that actually performs.

nopistons94

ACTUALLY, the air pump pipe is sold with every kit now. Its common sense that a business is business, Kevin helps out the community with giving us low prices on quality units, but hes not a huge company and of course he still has to make a profit to keep overhead covered and business going.



And honestly dude, your last paragraph makes no sense and is competly irrevelant to the subject at hand. My Greddy example is right on par with the topic, yours is wayyy left field.

HDP

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And you don't feel he can make a profit by selling a duct separately? Because of a car accident, what if someone only needs a new duct, would they be SOL because it's not sold separately?

HDP

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It makes perfect sense. You're just reading the words and not the principle it holds.

EDIT: The subject at hand was tips for making a duct because Kevin would not sell to badddrx7 because it was assumed it would be used for an intercooler other than ASP. It is your example that has nothing to do with the TRUE subject at hand.

nopistons94

thats not the circumstance. Im not going to argue with you anymore about this, end of story.