Need help on modifications
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Need help on modifications
Ok guys, heres the deal, in less than one month I will have a 93 rx7 twin turbo (standard of course). I used to own an 88gxl, as you can probably tell by the name, and have since been forced into a 95 240sx...but the rotary is coming back to me because God is good. To the point, I will be racing this car the weekend after I get it (i will get it on sat, oct. 2nd). I need to pump as much power as I can safely out of this thing, and I do not have a complete understanding of the tt in the fd. I am used to the fc na motor. Anyways, among questions are...What mod combos can I do to get the most for under $1000 and that can be done in a week (remember I dont want to compromise the integrity of my motor). Next, does the tt have a fuel cut, if so at what pressure, and what is the best way to get around it? Thanks, Brad.
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You're going to be racing a new-to-you twin turbocharged FD the weekend after you get it? And you want to squeeze as much power out of it for $1K? Haha, I'm no Nostradamus, but something tells me that you're going to be in a big wreck in the near future! Spend that mod money on insurance instead!
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If you are really going to race your car one week after you get it, you are a complete imbecile. I can't believe anyone would do that.
You are an idiot, and you do not deserve such a nice car.
Someone please close this thread.
You are an idiot, and you do not deserve such a nice car.
Someone please close this thread.
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I am inclined to agree with the others, this car is and can be a monster, it can get away from you in an instant. If it is totally stock you need downpipe, new intake and the hose job done. That may be done for $1,000 if you can do the work yourself. Then you need radiator, clutch and probally stainless steel brake and oil return line. I have had a 93 touring since 93 and have slowly modded it. It can go much faster than my driving ability and I know that. Be careful
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in as much as i want to chime in with the folks above about how this is a really bad idea, i will try and offer some constructive advice here.
you don't need $1000, what you need is to put the sweat time in.
You have made no statements about the level of modification of this machine, nor how well it was taken care of before. considering you mentioned spending money on mods, I will assume that it is somewhere near stock.
here is the list of things you can and should do, given one week:
a) change all the fluids - oil+filter, tranny and diff. flush the cooling system and put a 60/40 coolant mix in. burping the cooling system will take time. do a forum search to find some advice on the process. while you are under the car, check for oil leaks. have your radiator cap tested and replaced if needed. Check the status off all of your coolant hoses. if they look marginal, replace them with Mazda parts.
b) change your plugs. don't bother with the wires now unless they look damaged.
c) change and/or clean the air filter.
d) install a boost gauge if it does not have one. take the car out, give it time to warm up and then see what your boost patterns are at WOT. If you are boosting more than around 12psi and don't have an aftermarket ECU tuned for it, the you are seriously putting your engine at risk.
e) if your brake fluid looks the least bit dirty, do a complete flush. check fhe entire system for leaks or seepage. forget the fancy high temp fluids, fresh Valvoline synthetic is good enough for this go (you can go Motul or ATE at a later date). check you brake pads and replace if necessary.
f) get the car up on a lift. get a qualified mechanic to go over the entire suspension and subframe looking for any play, looseness or cracks (explain to him that you just bought the car) take a torque wrench to all the bolts.. check the wheel bearings for play.
g) if you are really a glutton for punishment, change the fuel filter (if the previous owner hasn't already).
h) check the alignment and wheel balance and have it done if needed.
that's just the short list, but it should help you locate any other potential problems. the recommendation about getting a second set of qualified eyes to look the car over is really important.
btw, this list is derived from the tech inspection forms that many/most groups require before allowing you car out on the track at a driving event.
good luck,
-bill
you don't need $1000, what you need is to put the sweat time in.
You have made no statements about the level of modification of this machine, nor how well it was taken care of before. considering you mentioned spending money on mods, I will assume that it is somewhere near stock.
here is the list of things you can and should do, given one week:
a) change all the fluids - oil+filter, tranny and diff. flush the cooling system and put a 60/40 coolant mix in. burping the cooling system will take time. do a forum search to find some advice on the process. while you are under the car, check for oil leaks. have your radiator cap tested and replaced if needed. Check the status off all of your coolant hoses. if they look marginal, replace them with Mazda parts.
b) change your plugs. don't bother with the wires now unless they look damaged.
c) change and/or clean the air filter.
d) install a boost gauge if it does not have one. take the car out, give it time to warm up and then see what your boost patterns are at WOT. If you are boosting more than around 12psi and don't have an aftermarket ECU tuned for it, the you are seriously putting your engine at risk.
e) if your brake fluid looks the least bit dirty, do a complete flush. check fhe entire system for leaks or seepage. forget the fancy high temp fluids, fresh Valvoline synthetic is good enough for this go (you can go Motul or ATE at a later date). check you brake pads and replace if necessary.
f) get the car up on a lift. get a qualified mechanic to go over the entire suspension and subframe looking for any play, looseness or cracks (explain to him that you just bought the car) take a torque wrench to all the bolts.. check the wheel bearings for play.
g) if you are really a glutton for punishment, change the fuel filter (if the previous owner hasn't already).
h) check the alignment and wheel balance and have it done if needed.
that's just the short list, but it should help you locate any other potential problems. the recommendation about getting a second set of qualified eyes to look the car over is really important.
btw, this list is derived from the tech inspection forms that many/most groups require before allowing you car out on the track at a driving event.
good luck,
-bill
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Ok, to all the prior morons and any other idiots who wishes to post up something about how I can't handle the car, or what stupid ideas I have about dragging it the weekend after i get it, just **** off and don't waste your time posting here. You don't know me, you don't know what I do or don't know about cars, and you definetly don't know about my driving capability of what I can and can't handle. If i am not mistaken, the car has 255hp stock...I can easily handle a car on the drag strip with over 500hp so don't waste your breath on stupid ****. If you have something to say about tuning, please do (and thanks to the few who have already). If you just want to flop your chops cause your a skinny littly ***** and can only run your mouth where the men like myself cant smash your face in, then please go run your mouth somewhere else and let the grownups talk cars. (I suggest AOL chat rooms for a safe place to talk ****). For those who think I know nothing about this car because I haven't owned an FD yet, think again because I probably know more than you do. Raise your hand if you can rip a rotary motor apart and put it back together...Didnt think so for most of you. Now, bring on the good ideas from those of you who know what your talking about. Thanks.
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Actually most of us can. I would suggest you don't get an attitude at this forum. With a good attitude, people here can help you learn anything you want but with a bad one you will get flamed out of here fast.
My suggestions if there car is running PERFECT are: Intake, downpipe, and a catback. This can be had for around $1k if you spend your money carefully.
My suggestions if there car is running PERFECT are: Intake, downpipe, and a catback. This can be had for around $1k if you spend your money carefully.
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Originally Posted by Blue88GXL
For those who think I know nothing about this car because I haven't owned an FD yet, think again because I probably know more than you do.
From your post above:
"I need to pump as much power as I can safely out of this thing, and I do not have a complete understanding of the tt in the fd."
Ignoramus.
Turn off your monitor, turn on the TV and go watch cartoons little boy, so you won't blow the engine, wreck the car, or kill anybody.
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Birds can DRIFT YO...!!!!
not sure how much power your 88gxl had but i am know for a fact that the 95 240s(used to own one) have 155HP. driving that and driving the FD is a big difference. once u hit the throttle you'll love it.
all of us in here arent morons. it is a stupid idea racing it right after u get it. we're jus helping u save urself from gettin killed or killing someone else in a car wreck.
is this care gonna be for the track? since the car is stock, i am sure u might not even have them. those alone will cost u 1K
like everyone said, reliability mods first.
all of us in here arent morons. it is a stupid idea racing it right after u get it. we're jus helping u save urself from gettin killed or killing someone else in a car wreck.
is this care gonna be for the track? since the car is stock, i am sure u might not even have them. those alone will cost u 1K
like everyone said, reliability mods first.
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Originally Posted by adam c
If you are really going to race your car one week after you get it, you are a complete imbecile. I can't believe anyone would do that.
You are an idiot, and you do not deserve such a nice car.
Someone please close this thread.
You are an idiot, and you do not deserve such a nice car.
Someone please close this thread.
I went on a track event (lapping session, not a real race though) after driving the car for like 2-3days. Nowhere better place to learn the cars behavior.
To Blue88GXL: For $1k you should:
- Get an alluminium bigger radiator, make super-dupper ducting around it, so no air can escape on the sides of it. This will set you back around $400 if you go with Koyo.
- Boost gauge & pod: $100
- Alluminium AST: $150
- New plugs: $40
- Downpipe: $150 (stainless steel, used)
- Intake & ducting for it: $150
- Manual boost controller: $10
Keep boost to 10psi or lower if day temperatures are high. Change motor oil, also diff oil. Oh and get an alignment done. If you have rear toe-link bushings worn out, you will have messed up your rear toe, which is not fun @ the track. They are $50 each from mazdatrix.com
Other than that, you know what they say... step by step...
Its a nice car to drive fast, its not something to be intimidated about and I have a feeling you already have some track experience and having driven a rwd before I dont see a problem. Have fun !
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Oh... you will be taking it to the strip. Lol... 13-14seconds of driving straight and shifting. Fun
Seriously, I dont think there is much to drive it at the strip. Keep boost to 10psi and have fun.
For power-only mods I would now suggest:
- Used Pettit ECU $450
- Used 3" Downpipe (doesnt matter what steel): $100
- Used Intakes with ducting: $150
- Used 3" Catback: $200
- Manual Boost controller to keep boost at 10psi
- Boost gauge & pod
Good luck.
Seriously, I dont think there is much to drive it at the strip. Keep boost to 10psi and have fun.
For power-only mods I would now suggest:
- Used Pettit ECU $450
- Used 3" Downpipe (doesnt matter what steel): $100
- Used Intakes with ducting: $150
- Used 3" Catback: $200
- Manual Boost controller to keep boost at 10psi
- Boost gauge & pod
Good luck.
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haha by race it i though you ment you were gonna really race it on a track instead of just mashing the gas in a straight line. if thats what you wanted, you should have gotten a camaro with a supercharger/nitrous or just stuck with you fc and stuck a LS1/V8 in to it with a supercharger/nitrous! as for any real performance upgrade, you dont have enought money. hell i dont think thats enought money for tuning and all the race gas it will take as well as tires alone... intercooler+piping, turbo/s, ecu (standalone), fuel mods, clutch job+diff with/or rebuild tranny, cage, suspension, tires combo or rims (slicks all around/good tires), or hell even seats each cost over a grand haha. if you have only $1000 bucks... you just dont have enought money. hell have you even considered what your gonna do if your engine pops? engine rebuild for parts cost about a grand and thats if you dont need new turbos becuase your seals took them out on the way out or new housings. just dont be a ***** and go crying and then calling the cops saying your car was stolen for the insurance money... i already pay enough for insurance!
i highly suggest you do reliblity mods or just save up for a new engine/tranny/clutch becuase you never know when your stock components will fail on you. by the way you sound like your gonna drive it, your gonna need new/replacement stuff very soon!
i highly suggest you do reliblity mods or just save up for a new engine/tranny/clutch becuase you never know when your stock components will fail on you. by the way you sound like your gonna drive it, your gonna need new/replacement stuff very soon!
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For those of you who responded with intelligence, again, thank you. I appreciate the input. For those who continue to be gay, do you have nothing better to do with your lives than post on here? Dont be jealous because you drive a Geo and will never own an Rx7...its not my fault...dont flame me. To those who wish to back up these people, dont forget this forum doesnt require proof of intelligence and/or ownership of an rx7 to get on. Most of these morons are just 15 y/o kids playing around acting cool, so don't be so quick to cover for their asses. You must have missed where I said thanks for the help from those who are intelligent. And to "SpeedKing", thanks for the post regarding my knowledge based on 22 posts or something. Just take a look at your implication there...more posts = better understanding of Rx7's, racing, driving, or any kind of automotive work or skill...thats an interesting deduction and one I wouldn't bet on, but you are a genius right? To skunks, maybe Im not getting a camaro because they are a piece of **** waiting to break and the rx7 is not. And about drag racing, you are obviously a silly little 15yo who knows nothing of racing or cars. Anyone who has ever dragged before knows there is much more to it than pressing the gas. Do you realize that a standard transmission requires you to clutch and shift? or did your mommy get you an automatic accord? Anyone who knows anything at all about dragging knows there is a lot of skill involved...mashing the gas and going is no where close to a good description of the sport. So **** off. Back to speed king again, you are right in quoting that I said I do not have a complete understanding of the FD...that doesn't mean I know nothing of it. That is just an admission that I don't know everything, which is obviously too much of an admission for you. The truth is, you can't admit to not knowing everything because you know nothing in reality, and lieing on the internet is your stronghold. To everyone who thinks the FD will get away from you or that it is just too much...ok, i dont mean to step on any Rx7 lovers toes, because I also love these cars better than any other, but lets stop for a moment and be realistic...ok...breathe...now, the rx7 has 255hp....255hp...do i need to say that again? i will assume not. Ok, so, it is not a 1000+hp turbocharged 5.0 or anythings, its just 255hp...less than a 300zxtt, less than a supratt, less than a v8 camaro...****, its less than a chevy truck. Now be honest with yourself, this isnt a low 7second category car off the production line. It is great, but it is only 255hp. This thing is no incredible beast stock that requires 100% attention and the skill of the Gods to drive. Its just another car, so grow up and be realistic. Again, bring on the intelligent posts. Thanks again for the real Rx7 owners our there with some knowledge, that can reasonably understand that 255hp is easily conrolled by most who have driven a car before. Thanks for the input, I will consider it when I decide what to do. To speed king again. I feel sorry for you if you pay more than 1000 for tires...or for seats...or for most of the things you listed except for turbos, ecu, and fuel system...I hereby title you "The Lord of the Reamed".
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