Kotetsu

Well it's been a little bit tricky. I had to cut 10mm of the 90°pipe (for zenki y-pipe). I used the fixation plate for zenki pipe as well but I fixed it on the other side of the BOV to give 5mm of extra space between the y-pipe and the BOV (Normally, the bolt will be fixed on the front side of the BOV, I put it back side (Don't know how to explain it better than this). It wasn't easy to install it and I strongly recommend to remove completely the intake box and all the pipes to install it properly.

Normally you install the fixation plate first then the BOV on it. I had to fix the BOV on the plate first, then bolt the whole thing to the y-pipe and it was really shitty...


I'm really sorry for not being able to explain this more clearly. I hope it helped though...

KKMpunkrock2011

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so post a pic of what it looks like

Kotetsu

Dude, it's mounted, I'm not going to remove it just for a picture. But it's not that complicated. I you use the fixation plate for zenki version (older one) and just fix the BOV as I explained, you should be able to install il the same way I did.



On this picture you cannot see but the BOV has been fixed to the plate from behind. Then you fix it normally to the y-pipe.

KKMpunkrock2011

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not saying to tear it apart, but as the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words, and it's usually easier to just post a pic than try and explain it.

Kotetsu

Yeah I promise, next time I have to remove my induction box, I'll take a picture.

I did this:



So you simply put the BOV on the site of the bracket pointed by the big arrow (You can admire my dexterity at drawing an arrow with a mouse )

You'll have to cut the pipe (BOV side), 10 to 15mm give or take.

And that's it.

I hope you see what I men now...

Oliv

late model means efini y-pipe?

mrb63083

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You know, mine rested in the bay like his and I didn't have a mounting bracket. The hose alone it was attached to held it in it's place. The rest of the intake assembly kept it from flopping around, if you will.

BobfisH

Mine is the same as MRB's - the hole the plate fixes to is stripped on my car so its not attached to anything, just kinda flops around on the hose lol.

its been fine and i track my car all the time.

Tim Benton

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The odd thing besides the different versions is the reference to zenki and kouki models. Both of which apply to 2nd gen car, not the FD series. The zenki was from 1986-1988. The kouki was from 1989-1991. Although the terminology could be used for more than 1 model generation since one means before and the other means after according to the site below.

Taken from http://www.fc3spro.com/main.html 2nd paragraph down. Of course I expect to hear an differing explaination on how the sites wrong upcoming.

Tim

Kotetsu

Actually zenki means "early period", kouki; "latter period". It doesn't apply only to what you call 2nd generation RX-7. In Japan we call earlier FDs "zenki", these are 1st to 3rd generation of the model (E-FD3S), 4th generation is called "chuuki" and latter generation (5th and 6th) "kouki", the cars you're maybe usded to call efini or 99 spec. As well you have zenki and kouki Integra DC2 ou Skyline GT-R, you name it... Sorry for the misunderstanding...

So on my plan you have to version. Up, is the zenki early generation (1 to 3) of the FD. Down is for the 99 spec or kouki, models that has been originally sold only in Japan (JDM only). So My y-pipe is the one oh the late model but I used the kit for the early model that I modified... I hope this time it''ll clear for all of you otherwise I'll go back to school and improve my English....

Tim Benton

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Nope, your good. Since we only had the 93-95 Fd's, I can see where we'd think only in terms of the FC when using the terms zenki and kouki, but in Japan, you could use it for both FC's and FD's as well.

Tim

Kotetsu

Actually we use this word as a normal one for any car, no matter the make or the model even for the playstation... Recently it became really popular among the Japanese car owners in Europe or US to use these words such as "touge", "wangan" or "hashiri-ya"... I think that almost no body really understands the meaning of these terms and maybe believed it was dedicated to a specific model. Sorry, it's totally wrong!

On my side, I don't know all the terms used in America for these cars so please guys teach me!

I'll do my best to provide info about JDM cars for those whom it might be of interest. (I think this sentence is a bit odd, please correct it freely)

KKMpunkrock2011

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we're usually stuck just using the different chassis/engine codes, we don't get all the special stuff like you guys do. Like I'm assuming an AP1 honda s2000 is a "zenki" and the AP2 is a "kouki", you know, like the 2.0L and the 2.2L, is that correct?

Kotetsu

The tricky question indeed!

In fact, we have zenki and kouki versions of the AP1 in Japan...
Some difference may exist between the earlier versions and the latter ones.

As i explained, it's just the word meanine early or late version, nothing more.

This thread is going to become really hard to understand I think

For those who where able to follow until now:

Ma FD is a 1993 model (zenki) with a complete engine overhaul (kouki parts), Spirit R carpet (kouki), kouki tail lamps, kouki dash board, chuuki A/C control panel and meter assy, Spirit R LSD (kouki again), Spirit R catalyzer (omg kouki once again)...

So it's a kind of Hybrid...

RLaoFD

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I'm getting a language lesson out of this thread. I'm glad I learned something new though, because its a shame that we take words from other languages and change the meanings on them.

mrb63083

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I agree.

For the most part with FD's, we just refer to them as 3rd generation. I think the only other thing would be with the 2nd generations; we typically use the terms "s4" and "s5" to differentiate from the 86-88 and 89-91 models.

Kotetsu

That's great. I couldn't help much with the BOV but at least I could help with the language!

KKMpunkrock2011

iTrader: (5)

nah it's cool, you showed what it looks like and how it goes together, and thanks for the language lesson,
and so basically anytime the car gets a mild improvement/change it then has a zenki/kouki version? I'm still trying to think of something here that you guys have that's pretty much the same, maybe the 350Z with the 3.5 which then switched to the 3.7?

Kotetsu

That's it. For the FD, as there are six versions in Japan we even call the mid one "chuuki"... It's endless!

But regarding the FD there are serious improvement from the 5th generation. Many parts have changed, starting with the y-pipe. They also cool better, have turbos with a little more kick, etc... And the IC is a bit different (source of my piping problem...)

For instance it's been hard for me to find the right catalyzer from Apexi, they have something like five different references...

Anyway, if you need help or have questions about JDM RX-7, don't hesistate, I'll be more than happy to answer (as long as it is within my small area of knowledge of course)

Kotetsu

I totally forgot to update this thread so here are some news about the car since the last time...

Just after installing the SMIC, i had the mecanic from Okabe Jidosha make a special air duct for my RE-Amemiya bumper, here's the thing:



I installed a gauge pod from Rotary Art but the product was not properly fabricated so there was a gap on the lower front end as you can see:



They were kind enough to refund me so I bought another pod from Frank Lee Jr. (excellent stuf, I recommand):



I also changed the hand brake and shift boots as well as the shift **** just to match better the black/red interior:


And finally the piece de resistence:


Brand new Spirit R brake Callipers associated with FS type Dixcel rotors and Type Z pads (I just ordered the same for the rear totday).



My old zenki callipers were crying every time I was pushing the pedal after the punishment they took on the Fuji Speedway so now I'm ready for more action!!!

alanwu07

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Did you get the Bride PROS reupholstered? They look amazing with the red stitching.

EDIT: I looked it up and it seems like they come in black with the red stitching. My friend has a pair of them and I don't remember them having it, hmmm..

Kotetsu

Actually I bought the Leather version of the PROS but they no longer make this version. You can have them in balck fabric but not in leather anymore unfortunately. I wanted something a little luxurious but not too expensive but still having a racing look. These were just perfect. Although, these seats are NOT the best deal stuff from Bride. They're a little higher thant the OEM and the position is note quite perfect but hey, I couldn't afford seats twice or three times the price so I went with these and its alright...

redrocket1

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There were 6 different "series" that were made all together

Series 1 (A VIN starting with a 1xxxxxx)
1992

Series 2 (A VIN starting with a 2xxxxxx)
1993

Series 3 (A VIN starting with a 3xxxxxx seeing a trend?)
1994
1995

Series 4 (A VIN starting with a 4xxxxxx) Y pipe change new rats nest 16bit ecu
1996

Series 5 (A VIN starting with a 5xxxxxx) Same as above w/ kouki body
1997
1998

Series 6 (A VIN starting with a 6xxxxxx)
1999
2000
2001
2002

It goes something like that.

Kotetsu

That's right.

here is the exact classification 8I took it from the FD3S owners' bible):

Je ne peux pas parler pour les version Européenes que je ne connais pas mais au Japon la classification c'est comme ça:


前期　Zenki (early period)

I型　(Ichigata) or serie n° 1, december 1991 to July 1993:

Type X, Type R and Type S
255hp, ECU 8 bits


II型 (Nigata) or serie n°2, august 1993 to february 1995:

Type R, Type RII, Touring X et Touring S
255hp, ECU 8 bits

III型　(Sangata) or serie n°3, march 1995 to december 1995:

Type R-S and Type R Bathurst
255hp, ECU 8 bits, 17 inches wheels



中期　Chuki (middle period)


IV型　(Yongata) or serie n°4, january 1996 to december 1998:

Touring X, Type RZ, Type RS, Type RB Bathurst and Type RB
255hp and 265hp, ECU 16 bits



後期　Kouki (latter period)


V型 (Gogata) or serie n°5, january 1999 to september 2000:

Type R, Type RS, Type RB and Type RB S-package
280hp, ECU 16 bits


VI型　(Rokugata) serie n°6, october 2000 to early 2003:

Type R, Type R Bathurst, Type RS, Type RB and type RB S-package as well as the last generation in 2003, the mighty Spirit R
280hp, ECU 16 bits


Source: News mook Owner's Bible : Mazda / 3fini RX-7 FD3S

Kotetsu

Some News:

I just replaced my rear PMU brake rotors with Dixcel HS rotors and Type Z pads. Breaking power is just perfect with my Spirit R front calipers and definitely, Dixcel products are great!

I also installed my new SLICK camcorder clamp on my rear tower bar, it fits perfectly and I can't wait to go driving on the Fuji Speedway!



Next mod will be a Okuyama Rollcage and some new Bridgestone RE11-S tires. I won't change a lot of other things from there...