my experience with rotaryextreme v mount
MY V-MOUNT
I purchased the V-mount setup (whole shebang) not only is this a piece of art it performs unbelievably efficiently! The best mod I have purchased to date....my car has not been over 87 degrees on the track of in stop and go traffic anywhere! PLUS CHUCK IS A STANDUP GUY (although he sucks returning phone calls hahaha sorry Chuck but you know it's true....hey if you're reading this Chuck call me about the trailing arms and toe links!) AND COMPLETELY HONEST AND HELPFUL HE EVEN CAME TO MY HOUSE TO FIX A PROBLEM!!!!
Originally posted by Scrub
Why don't you get the hell off chucks back. He's a great guy and makes great products. End of story.
Why don't you get the hell off chucks back. He's a great guy and makes great products. End of story.
Sorry, off topic.
oh, and of course the D1 car used a the vmount, it had a stock IC before hand, and if its sponsored, why not?
Originally posted by neofreak
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly. Thats at least 5 locals, 3 of them I know are on forum but dont say anything, two for sure just because they don't want to admit to having knockoffs.
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly. Thats at least 5 locals, 3 of them I know are on forum but dont say anything, two for sure just because they don't want to admit to having knockoffs.
Chuck, I have seen your product on two different cars, and the owners we're very happy!
Originally posted by neofreak
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly.
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly.
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Please tell them to contact me if there is any problem. I know one, Victor, but he admits that his bodyshop forgot to bolt on 4 bolts on the fenders. I don't know about the rest. Never heard anything.
For you own info, see the following photos.
There are more you can find at
http://www.rotaryextreme.com/jerry
This car has my whole body kit other than the wing and mirror. This owner is local. You are more than welcome to check out his car in person. As far as I can tell, fitment is superb.
As far as V mount, please remember that the US D1 competitors are selected from numerous drift competitoins. If the products on the car are not performing, I don't think he could have won? How come you are not one of the top 16 US competitors if anyone can join??
You have come to many of my threads bashing me with unrelated crap. If you are really a stand-up guy, you will not try to rip off people by sellling your old and ripped Mazdaspeed seats for $1400 which is how much it costs BRAND NEW!
Thread here:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16494
SORRY OFF TOPIC back to you. Looks like you are
Chuck Huang
For you own info, see the following photos.
There are more you can find at
http://www.rotaryextreme.com/jerry
This car has my whole body kit other than the wing and mirror. This owner is local. You are more than welcome to check out his car in person. As far as I can tell, fitment is superb.
As far as V mount, please remember that the US D1 competitors are selected from numerous drift competitoins. If the products on the car are not performing, I don't think he could have won? How come you are not one of the top 16 US competitors if anyone can join??
You have come to many of my threads bashing me with unrelated crap. If you are really a stand-up guy, you will not try to rip off people by sellling your old and ripped Mazdaspeed seats for $1400 which is how much it costs BRAND NEW!
Thread here:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16494
SORRY OFF TOPIC back to you. Looks like you are

Chuck Huang
Originally posted by neofreak
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly. Thats at least 5 locals, 3 of them I know are on forum but dont say anything, two for sure just because they don't want to admit to having knockoffs.
Sorry, off topic.
oh, and of course the D1 car used a the vmount, it had a stock IC before hand, and if its sponsored, why not?
Too bad not one of his kits I've seen in person has fit properly. Thats at least 5 locals, 3 of them I know are on forum but dont say anything, two for sure just because they don't want to admit to having knockoffs.
Sorry, off topic.
oh, and of course the D1 car used a the vmount, it had a stock IC before hand, and if its sponsored, why not?
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Re: MY V-MOUNT
Thanks for the support. I sent you a PM and email. Got both in stock. You can pick up anytime you want. Thanks.
Chuck Huang
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by frankadelic5
I purchased the V-mount setup (whole shebang) not only is this a piece of art it performs unbelievably efficiently! The best mod I have purchased to date....my car has not been over 87 degrees on the track of in stop and go traffic anywhere! PLUS CHUCK IS A STANDUP GUY (although he sucks returning phone calls hahaha sorry Chuck but you know it's true....hey if you're reading this Chuck call me about the trailing arms and toe links!) AND COMPLETELY HONEST AND HELPFUL HE EVEN CAME TO MY HOUSE TO FIX A PROBLEM!!!!
I purchased the V-mount setup (whole shebang) not only is this a piece of art it performs unbelievably efficiently! The best mod I have purchased to date....my car has not been over 87 degrees on the track of in stop and go traffic anywhere! PLUS CHUCK IS A STANDUP GUY (although he sucks returning phone calls hahaha sorry Chuck but you know it's true....hey if you're reading this Chuck call me about the trailing arms and toe links!) AND COMPLETELY HONEST AND HELPFUL HE EVEN CAME TO MY HOUSE TO FIX A PROBLEM!!!!
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Thanks for letting me know. As far as I know, everyone who has the Rotary Extreme V mount is very happy with his purchase.
Chuck Huang
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by SkywarpR
If anyone out there has a v-mount that they don't like, I'd be more than happy to take it off they're hands.
Chuck, I have seen your product on two different cars, and the owners we're very happy!
If anyone out there has a v-mount that they don't like, I'd be more than happy to take it off they're hands.
Chuck, I have seen your product on two different cars, and the owners we're very happy!
Are you nitpicking or what? Almost everything non-OEM is not "perfect".
I'm not biased one way or another, but it's obvious to me this is one of the Bayarea cliques vs Chuck here.
Originally posted by rotaryextreme
[B]If the products on the car are not performing, I don't think he could have won?
[B]If the products on the car are not performing, I don't think he could have won?
How come you are not one of the top 16 US competitors if anyone can join??
Obviously because I don't have your vmount.
Besides where did I say anything about anyone being able to join? You're putting words in my mouth.
IIf you are really a stand-up guy, you will not try to rip off people by sellling your old and ripped Mazdaspeed seats for $1400 which is how much it costs BRAND NEW!
Besides, another vendor was selling his personal seats, same model/color, for $1800.
You have come to many of my threads bashing me with unrelated crap
The only comments I make are when either:
1. Comments are made that insinuate the parts you sell are genuine.
2. When a "replica" is being sold for an absurd about of money, especially when you can get the original for just a little more.
I make no comments when you're selling SSR wheels, I would, if you were trying to pass off ADR's as real SSR's. Obviously you don't do that, its just an example.
Part of the confusion people are having with your stuff is your naming convention, for instance, under the FD body section of your site, you list "RE Rear Diffuser" if it isn't an RE Amemiya original, I'd call bait and switch.. but whatever.
Some parts say RE, some say Rotary Extreme, it just happens that some of the parts that say RE, have equivilents made by RE Amemiya. This gets confusing, especially since under the FC section you have both genuine parts and "replica" listed in the same row.
I know one, Victor, but he admits that his bodyshop forgot to bolt on 4 bolts on the fenders.
Anyways, I don't want to bring up names. I apologize to Calvin and Victor for dragging them in.
oh, and never in any of my posts have I ever attacked you in personally in any way. I'm only stating *my* experiences with your product. If quality has gone up over the years, which it should, and well could have -- its just that I still have personally not seen it.
edit: quick grammar fix
Last edited by neofreak; Dec 26, 2003 at 04:07 AM.
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A lot of times has to do with where you take it to. Explain it to me why is that red FD so nice using the same parts? If you need a good bodyshop, I can refer you to one. Most bodykit requires some final sanding, even the original. You can easily round off that corner of the wing with a piece of sand paper. That's part of bodyshop's job which takes them less than 5 min to do so. You said you got the RE Amemiya full cowl bumper before? Did you find any Bondo on there? Is it perfect out of the mold or it requires some fixing? Have you been to Japan and look at all those cars with original parts? Please go to this coming TAS and tell me your honest opinion after you come back.
On the VMount, why did you think Calvin bought it? He did not get it for free. It's sold to him at a "sponsorship price". He complains that his car is running too hot with the stock IC and radiator during drifting and that's why he bought it to be more competitive He did run the last few events with the vmount before he qualified for the D1 gran prix. Why don't' you call him up and ask him. It seems like you know him. If you know him, you should know he is pretty picky on what he puts on his car. Bomex offers him a free kit and he refuses the sponsorship. So don't make it seem like he puts on the v mount because it's sponsored. He refuses free stuff but paid for v mount.
I never pass on my replica as original. Go onto the website and read. On the 3rd gen section, I have one section for parts I make and one section for parts imported from Japan. I don't know how is that confusing to you. On the FC products, there is simply nothing much there to list them in two catagories. But why would I list the FC2000 bumper separately if it's already in the RE Amemiya section. Read the descrption and you will see I said it's finally finished (by us). Did I say it's finally imported from Japan?
Victor said his bodyshop didn't put 4 bolts on the bumper where it meets the fender and that's why the bumper looks hanging. That red car has the same bumper and even with my fenders. According to your opinion, how is the fitment of that red FD? Apparently where you take it to matters. If you are taking it to a stupid shop that doesn't put on all the bolts that hold the bumper, of course it's not going to fit right. As simple as that.
Chuck Huang
On the VMount, why did you think Calvin bought it? He did not get it for free. It's sold to him at a "sponsorship price". He complains that his car is running too hot with the stock IC and radiator during drifting and that's why he bought it to be more competitive He did run the last few events with the vmount before he qualified for the D1 gran prix. Why don't' you call him up and ask him. It seems like you know him. If you know him, you should know he is pretty picky on what he puts on his car. Bomex offers him a free kit and he refuses the sponsorship. So don't make it seem like he puts on the v mount because it's sponsored. He refuses free stuff but paid for v mount.
I never pass on my replica as original. Go onto the website and read. On the 3rd gen section, I have one section for parts I make and one section for parts imported from Japan. I don't know how is that confusing to you. On the FC products, there is simply nothing much there to list them in two catagories. But why would I list the FC2000 bumper separately if it's already in the RE Amemiya section. Read the descrption and you will see I said it's finally finished (by us). Did I say it's finally imported from Japan?
Victor said his bodyshop didn't put 4 bolts on the bumper where it meets the fender and that's why the bumper looks hanging. That red car has the same bumper and even with my fenders. According to your opinion, how is the fitment of that red FD? Apparently where you take it to matters. If you are taking it to a stupid shop that doesn't put on all the bolts that hold the bumper, of course it's not going to fit right. As simple as that.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by neofreak
Sorry, hood gap is not nitpicking. (stock hood to "MSpeed" bumper. A spoiler with one edge rounded and the other sharp. (ok, that might be nitpicking cuz it had to be pointed out to me, but once it was, it stuck out.)
I've met Scratchjunkie twice. Once sometime in the summer at a BBQ, and a month ago at a Krispe Kreme meet, we never once hung out outside of those two brief encounters. Yes, that makes us a clique.
He made it all this way with a stock IC, surely it must perform as well. Surely you're not suggesting that the IC alone allowed him to qualify. I'm not saying that yours does not provide a benefit, but it being on the car doesn't automatically make the car automatically D1 quality.
Nice way to change the topic around. "rolleyes"
Obviously because I don't have your vmount.
Besides where did I say anything about anyone being able to join? You're putting words in my mouth.
Too bad they sold exactly for what I was asking. Sure, you can get them new for that, plus shipping, and waiting months for them. Besides, as you can see from the photos they were not "busted up".
Besides, another vendor was selling his personal seats, same model/color, for $1800.
The only comments I make are when either:
1. Comments are made that insinuate the parts you sell are genuine.
2. When a "replica" is being sold for an absurd about of money, especially when you can get the original for just a little more.
I make no comments when you're selling SSR wheels, I would, if you were trying to pass off ADR's as real SSR's. Obviously you don't do that, its just an example.
Part of the confusion people are having with your stuff is your naming convention, for instance, under the FD body section of your site, you list "RE Rear Diffuser" if it isn't an RE Amemiya original, I'd call bait and switch.. but whatever.
Some parts say RE, some say Rotary Extreme, it just happens that some of the parts that say RE, have equivilents made by RE Amemiya. This gets confusing, especially since under the FC section you have both genuine parts and "replica" listed in the same row.
Funny how Victor gave up then, sold it and bought an original. I hear he's planning on getting more parts, something you duplicate, funny how he isn't planning on getting your version.
Anyways, I don't want to bring up names. I apologize to Calvin and Victor for dragging them in.
Sorry, hood gap is not nitpicking. (stock hood to "MSpeed" bumper. A spoiler with one edge rounded and the other sharp. (ok, that might be nitpicking cuz it had to be pointed out to me, but once it was, it stuck out.)
I've met Scratchjunkie twice. Once sometime in the summer at a BBQ, and a month ago at a Krispe Kreme meet, we never once hung out outside of those two brief encounters. Yes, that makes us a clique.
He made it all this way with a stock IC, surely it must perform as well. Surely you're not suggesting that the IC alone allowed him to qualify. I'm not saying that yours does not provide a benefit, but it being on the car doesn't automatically make the car automatically D1 quality.
Nice way to change the topic around. "rolleyes"
Obviously because I don't have your vmount.
Besides where did I say anything about anyone being able to join? You're putting words in my mouth.
Too bad they sold exactly for what I was asking. Sure, you can get them new for that, plus shipping, and waiting months for them. Besides, as you can see from the photos they were not "busted up".
Besides, another vendor was selling his personal seats, same model/color, for $1800.
The only comments I make are when either:
1. Comments are made that insinuate the parts you sell are genuine.
2. When a "replica" is being sold for an absurd about of money, especially when you can get the original for just a little more.
I make no comments when you're selling SSR wheels, I would, if you were trying to pass off ADR's as real SSR's. Obviously you don't do that, its just an example.
Part of the confusion people are having with your stuff is your naming convention, for instance, under the FD body section of your site, you list "RE Rear Diffuser" if it isn't an RE Amemiya original, I'd call bait and switch.. but whatever.
Some parts say RE, some say Rotary Extreme, it just happens that some of the parts that say RE, have equivilents made by RE Amemiya. This gets confusing, especially since under the FC section you have both genuine parts and "replica" listed in the same row.
Funny how Victor gave up then, sold it and bought an original. I hear he's planning on getting more parts, something you duplicate, funny how he isn't planning on getting your version.
Anyways, I don't want to bring up names. I apologize to Calvin and Victor for dragging them in.
Last edited by rotaryextreme; Dec 26, 2003 at 04:27 AM.
I never pass on my replica as original.
Most bodykit requires some final sanding, even the original.
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Like I said, I put them under two sections already to distinquish them. Why would I call it Mspeed if it's Mazdaspeed. I really don't understand how people can get confused.
The GTC bumper never has any hood gap. I have local customers with it. You can come check it out. You can point out all those "flaws" like none of them fits right but when I show you the photos and offer you to check out the cars in person, why don't you want to do so? It seems like your intention was only to convince people that my products do not fit?
You have that original fitment and quality syndrome. You think the bodykits from Japan alwasy fit without problems? I probably have seen and have personal experience with original bodykits more than anyone else on this board. I have many pictures of those horrible fitments from original bodykit manufacturers, including your favorite, RE Amemiya. Did you find Bondo on that full cowl you got? Is it so great without any defect?
The wing is not mishaped. It's probalby one of the corner was sanded sharper than the other. Like I said, if there is any problem, contact me.
Chuck Huang
The GTC bumper never has any hood gap. I have local customers with it. You can come check it out. You can point out all those "flaws" like none of them fits right but when I show you the photos and offer you to check out the cars in person, why don't you want to do so? It seems like your intention was only to convince people that my products do not fit?
You have that original fitment and quality syndrome. You think the bodykits from Japan alwasy fit without problems? I probably have seen and have personal experience with original bodykits more than anyone else on this board. I have many pictures of those horrible fitments from original bodykit manufacturers, including your favorite, RE Amemiya. Did you find Bondo on that full cowl you got? Is it so great without any defect?
The wing is not mishaped. It's probalby one of the corner was sanded sharper than the other. Like I said, if there is any problem, contact me.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by neofreak
I never said it was intended, but as recently as a few weeks ago there has been few threads where people have asked if certain ones were real, for instance if MSPEED was genuine Mazdaspeed, since you've modified their logo.
Sanding won't solve hood gap. Or a mishapened wing.
I never said it was intended, but as recently as a few weeks ago there has been few threads where people have asked if certain ones were real, for instance if MSPEED was genuine Mazdaspeed, since you've modified their logo.
Sanding won't solve hood gap. Or a mishapened wing.
Originally posted by rotaryextreme
You can point out all those "flaws" like none of them fits right but when I show you the photos and offer you to check out the cars in person, why don't you want to do so?
You can point out all those "flaws" like none of them fits right but when I show you the photos and offer you to check out the cars in person, why don't you want to do so?
You think the bodykits from Japan alwasy fit without problems?
Did you find Bondo on that full cowl you got? Is it so great without any defect?
The wing is not mishaped. It's probalby one of the corner was sanded sharper than the other.
Now, if your kits were all original designs and had flaws in them I wouldn't care in the least, heck, I'd even be happy that there was another choice in bodykits, but these are knockoffs.
I'll leave it at that, I won't waste bandwidth on this issue anymore. If you intend to keep this going, I won't hesitate to continue to respond.
Last edited by neofreak; Dec 26, 2003 at 05:50 PM.
Oh Christ !!!! This is about the V-Mount not about body panels.... "my experience with rotary extreme V-Mount"
I personally, am in the process of getting the R(otary)E(extreme) V-Mount... and you should really call it a kit since includes much more than just the IC...
It's a whole bunch of stuff, and 1 car out of 20 or whatever, is dissatisfied with fitment.... jeez did anybody ever think that one out of twenty of our cars could have been in a minor fender bender that might have some missaligned parts ???
No !!! Really ???
More Like 1 out of 3....
I'll post some pictures and some Intake and Rad temp readings in spring, that will raise ambient Air temp, and allow my rebuild to wear in...
If anybody is interested there's a link with pictures in my sig, as well as pictures to the RE HID Kit, and a picture of my old RE Scoot Replica Hood.... I've spent Thousands of $$ with chuck, and I'm not planning on going anywhere else, if he has what I need.... 'nuf said...
-DC
I personally, am in the process of getting the R(otary)E(extreme) V-Mount... and you should really call it a kit since includes much more than just the IC...

It's a whole bunch of stuff, and 1 car out of 20 or whatever, is dissatisfied with fitment.... jeez did anybody ever think that one out of twenty of our cars could have been in a minor fender bender that might have some missaligned parts ???
No !!! Really ???More Like 1 out of 3....
I'll post some pictures and some Intake and Rad temp readings in spring, that will raise ambient Air temp, and allow my rebuild to wear in...
If anybody is interested there's a link with pictures in my sig, as well as pictures to the RE HID Kit, and a picture of my old RE Scoot Replica Hood.... I've spent Thousands of $$ with chuck, and I'm not planning on going anywhere else, if he has what I need.... 'nuf said...
-DC
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I gave you that invitation to check out the cars but you never said you would. You never admit that the kit on the red FD fits just fine. You keep bringing up issues that I am not aware of or never heard of. Why don't you show me some photos? Best of all, please tell those owners to contact me.
It's good that you think your FC cowl came with no Bondo but every sinlge one I had imported or seen came with Bondo.
On the wing, you said one corner is sharper than the other and now they are in totally different shape? Don't change the story in the middle of it.
Why is it OK when an original deisgn kit has flaws? You definitely have that original fitment and quality syndrome. I find it a phenomenon that when a bodykit made in Japan does not fit well, people just take it. When a replica fits the same way, some people are all against it.
It's obvious that you are against replica no matter how the fitment is but you are OK when an original has flaws. That explains it a lot. The whole issue is replica vs origianl. It has nothing to do with fitment. Am I correct?
Chuck Huang
It's good that you think your FC cowl came with no Bondo but every sinlge one I had imported or seen came with Bondo.
On the wing, you said one corner is sharper than the other and now they are in totally different shape? Don't change the story in the middle of it.
Why is it OK when an original deisgn kit has flaws? You definitely have that original fitment and quality syndrome. I find it a phenomenon that when a bodykit made in Japan does not fit well, people just take it. When a replica fits the same way, some people are all against it.
It's obvious that you are against replica no matter how the fitment is but you are OK when an original has flaws. That explains it a lot. The whole issue is replica vs origianl. It has nothing to do with fitment. Am I correct?
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by neofreak
I've already seen them in person, thats why. Besides, you extended this invitation, what, yesterday?
Again you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say that in any of my posts, ever.
No, there was no Bondo on it. Why bother installing it when there was a knockoff coming, I sold it.
Stop making assumptions, it wasn't even a corner. One side of the wing is shaped differently than the other.
Now, if your kits were all original designs and had flaws in them I wouldn't care in the least, heck, I'd even be happy that there was another choice in bodykits, but these are knockoffs.
I'll leave it at that, I won't waste bandwidth on this issue anymore. If you intend to keep this going, I won't hesitate to continue to respond.
I've already seen them in person, thats why. Besides, you extended this invitation, what, yesterday?
Again you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say that in any of my posts, ever.
No, there was no Bondo on it. Why bother installing it when there was a knockoff coming, I sold it.
Stop making assumptions, it wasn't even a corner. One side of the wing is shaped differently than the other.
Now, if your kits were all original designs and had flaws in them I wouldn't care in the least, heck, I'd even be happy that there was another choice in bodykits, but these are knockoffs.
I'll leave it at that, I won't waste bandwidth on this issue anymore. If you intend to keep this going, I won't hesitate to continue to respond.
Last edited by rotaryextreme; Dec 26, 2003 at 06:22 PM.
Originally posted by rotaryextreme
On the wing, you said one corner is sharper than the other and now they are in totally different shape? Don't change the story in the middle of it.
On the wing, you said one corner is sharper than the other and now they are in totally different shape? Don't change the story in the middle of it.
Why is it OK when an original deisgn kit has flaws? I find it a phenomenon that when a bodykit made in Japan does not fit well, people just take it.
You never admit that the kit on the red FD fits just fine.
It has nothing to do with fitment. Am I correct?
You definitely have that original fitment and quality syndrome.
oh, and for reference, they're not replicas:
rep·li·ca ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rpl-k)
n.
A copy or reproduction of a work of art, especially one made by the original artist.
knock·off ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nkôf, -f)
n. Informal
An unauthorized copy or imitation, as of designer clothing: “the place to go for quality knockoffs”
I'm done, back to the VMount discussion unless Chuck wants to continue.
Originally posted by rotaryextreme
It's not true. How the hell do you mount it up side down? Why don't you show me?
It's not true. How the hell do you mount it up side down? Why don't you show me?
you know its true! i can not believe you just lied to me.
now i cant really trust liars.
What's fair is that you should answer that R&D (rip off & duplicate) remark for me. That's a lot more related than the veilside wing. Since M2 is your 3rd home, you should know why they can no longer sell ASP IC. So why?? Tell us all! But how come they continue to sell them? R&D(rip off & duplicate) applies here???
About your toe links and trailing arms remark, people know M2 just rebadge the ground control ones. I guess it's not R&D when you sell another company's product and claim it to be your own. Yeah, it's not exactly R&D but not that honorable either.
about my remarks, how can you claim your stuff is the best? when did you go to the track and test them out? and dont give me that "my customers track test my products", how credible can they be? are they competitively racing? are they pro drivers? but ne how lets get back to your v-mount. i have a couple of questions myself about it.
do you still need to hack away at the subframe to get the radiator and lower hose to fit?
do you still have to hack away at the undertray and zip tie it up?
do you still use those k'nex looking brackets to hold down the radiator?
i hope you have fixed all your mickey mouse brackets. but as i said before i will stop bashing you if you would just tell the truth about mounting your wing upside down a couple years ago.
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I did not mount my wing up side down a few years ago. End of the story.
M2 still sells "their" IC's? It's the ASP to begin with and Kevin Wyum has indicated on many threads that M2 can no longer sell it. Did M2 design a new one? I doubt it. On the M2 website, it looks just like the same ASP IC to me.
On the V mount, you don't have to cut subframe. You don't have to zip tie the undertray. The brackets apparently works fine for the buyers. There are many people on this thread who can correct you. At least my products comes with brackets for proper mounting, unlike the M2 IC that pops off when people go on the track because they use vise grip to create the beads. On top of that, I don't lie to customers about using silicone hoses to secure the intercooler is proper. Go to the following link and read:
http://www.turbohoses.com/Rx7%20Twin%20Turbo.htm
Quote from website: All M2 IC kits are held in place by the silicone without any mounting points. These hoses are an upgrade that M2 contracted us to engineer specifically to meet their needs
So M2 product is track proven? Laughable. When did they put any of the products they sell on their race cars? They haven't been racing for a while as far as I know. And when they tried, the engine or turbo blew up during the first lap. If I am wrong, show me some race results and show me some photos of the M2 products on the race car. A lot of companies always like to use this big word "track-proven" when they don't even use the products they sell on their race cars.
I never claimed my product is the best. Don't misquote. I said customers are happy with them and apparently they do. Cusotmers are the end users and they use the product the way they want, either street driving, autocrossing, track racing or drifting. What counts the most is that they are happy with their purchase and they feel the products work as advertised. I guess to you, customer satisfaction is not important. On the contrary, there are at least a dozen threads every month on unsatisfied M2 customers.
Keep bashing. All you do is bumping this thread up and makes you look stupid.
Chuck Huang
M2 still sells "their" IC's? It's the ASP to begin with and Kevin Wyum has indicated on many threads that M2 can no longer sell it. Did M2 design a new one? I doubt it. On the M2 website, it looks just like the same ASP IC to me.
On the V mount, you don't have to cut subframe. You don't have to zip tie the undertray. The brackets apparently works fine for the buyers. There are many people on this thread who can correct you. At least my products comes with brackets for proper mounting, unlike the M2 IC that pops off when people go on the track because they use vise grip to create the beads. On top of that, I don't lie to customers about using silicone hoses to secure the intercooler is proper. Go to the following link and read:
http://www.turbohoses.com/Rx7%20Twin%20Turbo.htm
Quote from website: All M2 IC kits are held in place by the silicone without any mounting points. These hoses are an upgrade that M2 contracted us to engineer specifically to meet their needs
So M2 product is track proven? Laughable. When did they put any of the products they sell on their race cars? They haven't been racing for a while as far as I know. And when they tried, the engine or turbo blew up during the first lap. If I am wrong, show me some race results and show me some photos of the M2 products on the race car. A lot of companies always like to use this big word "track-proven" when they don't even use the products they sell on their race cars.
I never claimed my product is the best. Don't misquote. I said customers are happy with them and apparently they do. Cusotmers are the end users and they use the product the way they want, either street driving, autocrossing, track racing or drifting. What counts the most is that they are happy with their purchase and they feel the products work as advertised. I guess to you, customer satisfaction is not important. On the contrary, there are at least a dozen threads every month on unsatisfied M2 customers.
Keep bashing. All you do is bumping this thread up and makes you look stupid.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by scratchjunkie
you know its true! i can not believe you just lied to me.
now i cant really trust liars.
m2 still sells "their" ic's
i feel so ripped off now that i didnt get rebadged ground controls
about my remarks, how can you claim your stuff is the best? when did you go to the track and test them out? and dont give me that "my customers track test my products", how credible can they be? are they competitively racing? are they pro drivers?
but ne how lets get back to your v-mount. i have a couple of questions myself about it.
do you still need to hack away at the subframe to get the radiator and lower hose to fit?
do you still have to hack away at the undertray and zip tie it up?
do you still use those k'nex looking brackets to hold down the radiator?
i hope you have fixed all your mickey mouse brackets. but as i said before i will stop bashing you if you would just tell the truth about mounting your wing upside down a couple years ago.
you know its true! i can not believe you just lied to me.
now i cant really trust liars.m2 still sells "their" ic's
i feel so ripped off now that i didnt get rebadged ground controls
about my remarks, how can you claim your stuff is the best? when did you go to the track and test them out? and dont give me that "my customers track test my products", how credible can they be? are they competitively racing? are they pro drivers? but ne how lets get back to your v-mount. i have a couple of questions myself about it.
do you still need to hack away at the subframe to get the radiator and lower hose to fit?
do you still have to hack away at the undertray and zip tie it up?
do you still use those k'nex looking brackets to hold down the radiator?
i hope you have fixed all your mickey mouse brackets. but as i said before i will stop bashing you if you would just tell the truth about mounting your wing upside down a couple years ago.
Last edited by rotaryextreme; Dec 26, 2003 at 11:50 PM.
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From: Stockton, CA
Originally posted by rotaryextreme
I did not mount my wing up side down a few years ago. End of the story.
M2 still sells "their" IC's? It's the ASP to begin with and Kevin Wyum has indicated on many threads that M2 can no longer sell it. Did M2 design a new one? I doubt it. On the M2 website, it looks just like the same ASP IC to me.
On the V mount, you don't have to cut subframe. You don't have to zip tie the undertray. The brackets apparently works fine for the buyers. There are many people on this thread who can correct you. At least my products comes with brackets for proper mounting, unlike the M2 IC that pops off when people go on the track because they use vise grip to create the beads. On top of that, I don't lie to customers about using silicone hoses to secure the intercooler is proper. Go to the following link and read:
http://www.turbohoses.com/Rx7%20Twin%20Turbo.htm
Quote from website: All M2 IC kits are held in place by the silicone without any mounting points. These hoses are an upgrade that M2 contracted us to engineer specifically to meet their needs
So M2 product is track proven? Laughable. When did they put any of the products they sell on their race cars? They haven't been racing for a while as far as I know. And when they tried, the engine or turbo blew up during the first lap. If I am wrong, show me some race results and show me some photos of the M2 products on the race car. A lot of companies always like to use this big word "track-proven" when they don't even use the products they sell on their race cars.
I never claimed my product is the best. Don't misquote. I said customers are happy with them and apparently they do. Cusotmers are the end users and they use the product the way they want, either street driving, autocrossing, track racing or drifting. What counts the most is that they are happy with their purchase and they feel the products work as advertised. I guess to you, customer satisfaction is not important. I can see that from at least a dozen threads every month on unsatisfied M2 customers.
Keep bashing. All you do is bumping this thread up and makes you look stupid.
Chuck Huang
I did not mount my wing up side down a few years ago. End of the story.
M2 still sells "their" IC's? It's the ASP to begin with and Kevin Wyum has indicated on many threads that M2 can no longer sell it. Did M2 design a new one? I doubt it. On the M2 website, it looks just like the same ASP IC to me.
On the V mount, you don't have to cut subframe. You don't have to zip tie the undertray. The brackets apparently works fine for the buyers. There are many people on this thread who can correct you. At least my products comes with brackets for proper mounting, unlike the M2 IC that pops off when people go on the track because they use vise grip to create the beads. On top of that, I don't lie to customers about using silicone hoses to secure the intercooler is proper. Go to the following link and read:
http://www.turbohoses.com/Rx7%20Twin%20Turbo.htm
Quote from website: All M2 IC kits are held in place by the silicone without any mounting points. These hoses are an upgrade that M2 contracted us to engineer specifically to meet their needs
So M2 product is track proven? Laughable. When did they put any of the products they sell on their race cars? They haven't been racing for a while as far as I know. And when they tried, the engine or turbo blew up during the first lap. If I am wrong, show me some race results and show me some photos of the M2 products on the race car. A lot of companies always like to use this big word "track-proven" when they don't even use the products they sell on their race cars.
I never claimed my product is the best. Don't misquote. I said customers are happy with them and apparently they do. Cusotmers are the end users and they use the product the way they want, either street driving, autocrossing, track racing or drifting. What counts the most is that they are happy with their purchase and they feel the products work as advertised. I guess to you, customer satisfaction is not important. I can see that from at least a dozen threads every month on unsatisfied M2 customers.
Keep bashing. All you do is bumping this thread up and makes you look stupid.
Chuck Huang
Chuck, when are you going to get your V-Mount CARB approved? I'm looking into an IC upgrade and would buy one no problem but don't want to have issues with the California smog *****.
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I didn't put words in your mouth. You said it in the following reply regarding the wing.
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Are you nitpicking or what? Almost everything non-OEM is not "perfect".
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Sorry, hood gap is not nitpicking. (stock hood to "MSpeed" bumper. A spoiler with one edge rounded and the other sharp. (ok, that might be nitpicking cuz it had to be pointed out to me, but once it was, it stuck out.)
So everything you have seen doesn't fit? Not even a single one? There should be a few cars at Seven Stock with my stuff. Nameless's car was there and Sport Car Motion's car was there. So the parts on their car don't fit either?
Be honest with you, if they all don't fit, it will be all over the board already. I don't think I can stay business for this long selling stuff that never fits and it just happens that every single one you saw doesn't fit.
Chuck Huang
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Are you nitpicking or what? Almost everything non-OEM is not "perfect".
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Sorry, hood gap is not nitpicking. (stock hood to "MSpeed" bumper. A spoiler with one edge rounded and the other sharp. (ok, that might be nitpicking cuz it had to be pointed out to me, but once it was, it stuck out.)
So everything you have seen doesn't fit? Not even a single one? There should be a few cars at Seven Stock with my stuff. Nameless's car was there and Sport Car Motion's car was there. So the parts on their car don't fit either?
Be honest with you, if they all don't fit, it will be all over the board already. I don't think I can stay business for this long selling stuff that never fits and it just happens that every single one you saw doesn't fit.
Chuck Huang





