I will try to make one. Don't give me too much pressure though.

 

well your not doing anything right now but replying to this thread.....get crackin! Coulda been done by now!

 

I have a mechanic at Chevron station, maybe it was him. Or the guy at quick lube. Maybe it was walnut creek mazda since I brough my car there once.

 

I guess who he is doesn't matter since what he told you is simply not true.

Chuck Huang

 

Chuck,

Is the V-mount setup compatible with a Koyo rad?

 

It comes with radiator. Please go to the website for more info.

Chuck

 

Chuck, it's 4:48 am, what are you doing up?

 

He doesn't sleep.

 

R&D = rip off and duplicate

i seen the vmount myself too it sucks. i wouldnt trust anyone who puts a veilside wing upside down anyways.

 

ROFLMAO The R&D quote was too damn funny.

Although funny I didn't think Rotary Extreme was one of those loser copy shops. He only uses his own designs for all of the products including body kits.

To be fair though if you wanted to plug your IC group buy that ends next week why didn't you just post that instead of some "I am a real customer. You can trust me when I say it does really well at freeway speeds and even if I floor it quickly." It does explain why you were so eager to have "a real customer" post in a thread about intercoolers the other week though : ).

Get some real data from the track, either type. Talking about how something does on the freeway occasionally flooring it is retarded. Good testing data is always welcome. It's about as good as testing IC performance on a dyno : ).

Who was the person that was making the Horizontal Mount IC? I remember someone saying that was supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread but I don't see it mentioned anymore.

Anyway I obviously have my bias as do others. Merry Christmas to everyone.

Kevin T. Wyum

 

Whatever you say spiderman. How can you put a wing up side down? Are you sure you are not seeing it up side down because you are spiderman???

Chuck Huang

 

What are saying? All the v mount users on this thread are all impersonated by me? Bad assumption just like last week when you said V mount is only bling bling without function so I had to go on there asking you if you want more info. I thought the best feedback will be from someone who has used both but obviously you don't think so.

Track testing is already done by customers. Read last month's sport compact car mag and there is a featured drift car with the vmount on it. There are other customer testing v mount on tracks as well. I am more than happy to testing m2 vs vmount. There many people here with the m2 setup and many with vmount as well.

Driving on the freeway to get data is retarded? I don't know how it's retarded if all the factors are kept the same and the only variable is intercooler. Please explain it to me in a scientific way why it's retarded. It's a lot more reliable than testing two differnet cars on the track without keeping all the factors constant.

BTW, why is M2 no longer allowed to sell your intercooler? I heard some bad stories. Can you share?Maybe scratchjunkie knows. Maybe he is Brian himself.

Chuck Huang

 

Bit of a dick really arent you? Prove it.

Try acting your immense age of 20/21 instead of a 12yr old who dreams of the day he has an FD and things he knows everything by reading a forum

 

BTW, I am sorry that I still refer the IC as M2. It should be officially as ASP. As far as I know M2 is no longer allowed to sell the ASP IC although they still have them on their website.

After reading a few posts from Scratchjunkie (Spiderman Wannabe), it seems like he is very affiliated with M2, quote: "M2 is my 3rd home!" in the following thread.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=241974

He came to the M2 vs Rotary Extreme toe links and trailing arms thread

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=236413

passing on false info saying I copied M2's design when obviously they look nothing like each other. After all, my design is better. After he was corrected, his best comeback was "omg i dont think i would trust anyone who puts on their veilside wing upside down" Yup, same thing as on this thread. I don't know where he got that idea and who told him that. At least I don't put my underwear over my head pretending to be Spiderman.

It's kind of funny he has that R&D (rip off & duplicate) remark. If M2 is still selling the ASP IC when they are not allowed to, does that R&D (rip off & duplicate) apply as well?

I hope Kevin can share the story why M2 can no longer sell ASP IC.

Chuck Huang

 

Well I've bought a few products from Chuck including the V mount (should be on its way soon). I've been very happy with everything I've received. I also appreciate the quick responses to the thousands of questions I ask him.
Heath

 

I think Kevin is just feeling a little threatened because there is a new IC setup around that seems to be grabbing everyones attention.

Instead of just front mounts and M2/ASP being the dominant choices between us 3gen guys there is now a third choice of design that seems to be grabbing a big part of the market. Look how many companies sell versions of their own already

And since he just reacquired his business back, which happens to sell ICs, it is in his interest to promote and sell his product.

All I can say is lets see some hard data proving which is better under track circumstances and street!!

Because honestly not a lot of the people that buy these ICs are track only.

Throw in a popular product like the greedy 2row and keep it impartial and see which setup works the best under different conditions, instead of bickering based on biased likes and dislikes.


My instinct is that one has a better thermal advantage over the other based on design.
But no one will know until they are tested under fair side by side circumstance.

 

rotarypower101- is it me or is that the opening page art from atihun's website? that logo looks familiar.

www.atihun.com

 

Um, scratchjunkie has a very nice FD, and doesn't believe anything he reads from the forum and hes not 20/21, btw.

 

This thread is so freaking great!!!! when I look at the Vmount set up and even when I look at the rotary extreme drawing of the IC/radiator it does look to to me that the angle of the radiator does not allow the air to be forced through the core. It looks like most of the air will go over it.

thats just my impression and atleast 1, well actually chuck pointed out a 2nd person that said that (from his experience). That would be my only gripe.

As far as M2/rotary extreme goes, I read the forum alot and take it for what its worth. I realize who the good vendors and bad vendors are. As far as buying a product off the internet, I would never, ever buy anything from M2. I have read thread after thread after thread of people ordering something as common as a down pipe or air box or toe links and it being 2-3 months later and no product, no update, no email, no answering of the phone. To this point I have never heard anything bad interms of someone not getting a product or waiting for ever or not getting what was ordered from RotaryExtreme.

If I can get a satisfactory explanation as to how the air gets forced through the core of the radiator I may consider to buy one before I leave california. As I said in my other thread, it looks so freaking nice. As far as it being a copy of (Knightsport? ) some japanese intercooler system....I for one am glad, no other US vendor carrys one.

Merry X-mas.

 

Scratch is a Rotaryextreme hater though, I've read a lot of his posts where he is doing the R-Extreme bashing. Its funny how Chuck's V-mount is said to be a "rip-off," this is something Chuck made and designed. The concept was taken from the Japanese comapnies that have been making them for awhile. JUST LIKE M2/ASP took the idea of an SMIC from the Japanese tuners that made theirs.

Besides the point I agree with 101 for the most part.

I do not personally have any data, but doesnt it just make sense? (Vmount SHOULD be better than an SMIC).
But even with out that dumb form of reasoning, there are always positives and negatives to each of the setups (which is covered in numerous threads). For example I spoke with Fujita-san on the phone, and he was telling me to get an FMIC.... And with all due respect to Chuck or even Kevin, Fujita-san carries a lot more respect with his engineering and track-tested experience. That good enough for track R&D?
To each his own I guess.....

I dont see how freeway testing is retarded. Its where most of us drive... no one takes their car to the track to get to work or for a sunday drive right? Please explain how Normal driving conditions is a poor indicator of future performance and reliability of a product?

I have always been a big fan of the Vmount ever since I saw a post about it from RotaryKnight (I think).
The Vmount is not a BLING-BLING mod, Kevin seems to look down on it.... He feels that Japanese shops only make stuff for show (in an old post correct me if I'm wrong), sorry Kevin but thats far from the truth.

And yea ppl can come on here and say I'm Chuck's friend and stuff like that, which is fine, because he is. But Chuck has made a good product - I'd have bought it if I had money - just like Kevin has made a respectable product in the past. No reason for ppl to come on here accusing him of this bullshit, esp ppl who want to keep a respectable business name.

 

KS made the VMount.... But its nothing like Chucks... different design, different core, different everything. The idea is the same though.

Thats like saying Kevin copied... **** I dunno a Greddy SMIC or soemthing.

 

Well it says b'day as 1982 on his profile thats why i said that. Shows he's a bit of a liar then as well as acting like a child. Dont care how nice an FD he has no need for slating anybody elses company, that doesnt show a very mature business approach and personally i would rather buy a product from somebody who acts their age than so damn childish on every thread of chucks.

V-mount is very good and used by major companys like HKS, Knightsports etc on circuits all the time. I know a few ppl running v-mount and they say its far better and more practical.

Front mount is good for things like track and drag etc, but absolutely whack when it comes to driving in traffic which most of us do.

The only reason not as many ppl use this is the price difference, i could see this outselling most front/stock mounts if they were equal price IMO

Ridiculous saying its a copy when, why not compare his i/c to any other front mount?

This thread is ridiculous, both products work, and both are copies in some aspect, not direct copies but the idea is, but the only good thing about this thread is it shows exactly the type of ppl behind the companies you are dealing with, one blatantly immature, the other not.

Say what you want as im an impartial advisor, but i know who will be getting my custom in the future just by the responses of the individuals in here and various other threads

 

are you saying its not true?

happy xmas everybody who loves the drama, but yea okay chucky i will stop bashing you after you answer that question with honesty. i just think its fair that people know.

 

yes i do not believe anything i read here.





should you? think about it.

 

It's not true. How the hell do you mount it up side down? Why don't you show me?

What's fair? What does this have to do with v mount or toe links and trailing arms or any performance parts? It's fair if you don't talk non-related crap here. It's fair if you respect end user's feed back. Obviously I have a lot better feedback than that company you are affiliated with.

What's fair is that you should answer that R&D (rip off & duplicate) remark for me. That's a lot more related than the veilside wing. Since M2 is your 3rd home, you should know why they can no longer sell ASP IC. So why?? Tell us all! But how come they continue to sell them? R&D(rip off & duplicate) applies here???

About your toe links and trailing arms remark, people know M2 just rebadge the ground control ones. I guess it's not R&D when you sell another company's product and claim it to be your own. Yeah, it's not exactly R&D but not that honorable either.

Chuck Huang