All I can say...is that one of you or both of you might end up dead.

How much time does this 16 year old HAVE behind the wheel?

You're crazy for even attempting it....

 

Actually, that is a good point. You never know when the person your racing, may not have the ability to control their car, and ends up taking BOTH of you out. I retract my previous statements.

 

His 283 rwhp FD at 10-11 psi will pull a 300 rwhp C5 simply because it weighs about 400 lbs less. Although he doesn't have the fuel system to do it, running 20 psi (crazy) on race gas with all the bolt-ons would put down over 400 rwhp and would pull a Viper rather easily. SPOautos has 412 rwhp at 17 psi and pulled 125 mph traps which would pull a stock Viper pretty hard - why flap your gums when you have no idea what you're talking about??

 

LMAO! People tend to do that around here sometimes...

 

Um.. take it to the track

 

Well he owned that car for about an year now.. no wreck or accident.. and He gave me ride few times.. i'll say he can drive pretty good.

but u never know.. thats why i don't want to run him in 0 to whatever..

 

you REALLY don't know wtf u are talkin about...
Race gas @ 20psi??? lol..





Thanks and good day

 

all i can say is good luck! you're gonna need it. with pretty much the same mods as you and a streetport, i got walked by a '02 gts with an intake and exhaust. they are a bitch to launch though, so you might get a jump, but don't be surprised when he eventually passes you. add some more fuel and tuning and the tables could easily turn though.

 

methinks this youngin needs to go home, lol wait im a youngin too. but id go for the race, hey even if u dont win its still worth it, cause how many times do u get to race a viper eh, everyone i rev on jus looks at me like i have a civic

 

I really don't care if i lose...
Its running pretty rich right now... i also smell fuel... need to fix that before racing..

i'll post story after race on kill section.. lol

 

Yeah but all we will be reading about is how good his taillights look since thats about all you will be seeing after he grabs traction, lol. Good luck though.

 

you are gonna get rocked...BAD. I give the viper at least three to five car lengths on you.

ETRAYLOR is a troll...he is one of the guys selling v8 conversions...starts flame wars...hates rotaries...pure mullet head.

 

I just ran my car at Road Atlanta, and have a whole new respect for Vipers. I would exit turn 7 into the back straight; halfway down the back straight I was hitting about 125 and the Viper would blow past me doing about 155............totally blew my mind. They be fast, real fast. It was a GTS btw, mods? Don't think the GTS really needs em, and I never asked the guy, since he was a loudmouth ********. Great driver though.

I agree with everyone on the safety issue; I see people doing this stuff and I say, "Well, there goes another organ donor."

C-ya. B-safe.

David

 

Actually, high revving vehicles have a lot to do with it. For every shift the viper has to make from a roll to stay within it's power band, the FD can take it into the higher RPM range, while letting the turbos do their job. Each shift detracts from speed. A low revving, low-end torque, engine is ideal for short burst of speeds on qtr. miles, highway runs are ideal for FDs/Supras. You want to see where an S2000 shines it's best with its high revving engine? The highway. The car has to be brought up pretty high in its rev range, to be able to really put the power to use, which means on the highway, it has the advantage. The same goes for a turbo charged, high revving FD. Everyone knows the hp/weight ratio matters, but as the rate of velocity increases, weight becomes less of an issue, and things become more even...meaning high rpms, high hp, and the turbos ability really come into play. I was refering to WHERE he would have an advantage racing the FD, and in case you did not notice, that is also one of the questions he asked. If both cars had equal power to weight ratios, the car with the higher revving engine would win out in a highway battle, because the engine has greater potential to utilize the power in however many revs. per minute.

 

Ever hear of Newton's laws, specifically the second one? Not saying it will matter with the Viper but take some high school physics before you blatantly flame someone. Why do you think crotch rockets (huge weight/hp) are substantially weaker on the top end?

 

283whp isn't all that much. Your best chance will be to race from a dig, he WILL spin the tires, i don't care how good a driver he is, and you will be able to make up some time.

As for racing from a roll, the Viper has a 3.07 gear, to your 4.10...getting into each other's powerband to make it more fair is very hard to do...i've tried. My Viper was pretty potent in 2nd gear from an 80mph roll.

 

You start in 2nd gear in a 80 mph roll??

There's no way 283 rwhp FD is going to come close to a GTS Viper. 340 rwhp is enough to stay with them but I'd want atleast 360-370+ to start pulling on them. There's a guy around here that has a 95 viper RT/10 with mods and a 200 shot - he dynoed at 380+ w/o N20 and 530 rwhp with N20 - he ran 12.2 at 123 on street tires while spraying. I'm going to race him as soon as my car is ready.

 

I guess i'll just need to tune it up and race him then..

don't want to get beat Badly.. gotta repersent 3rd gens..lol

 

What's with all the name calling? Can't you winan argument and walk away? The viper is going to win. There is no need to jump on everyone and show how smart you are. YOU ALREADY WON. Be constructive and throw up some charts and graphs proving points instead of calling names.

 

Your friend might be watching this thread at this moment... so get it tuned b4 u race...better be safe then having problems wiv d engine later...

Gd luck dude... u'll need it...

 

There's an older 94-95 Viper RT/10 with a Hennessey package on it running around my town. I tried messing with him before I had my midpipe, FMIC, fuel pump, pulleys and boost controller and got beat down pretty good. Not sure how much HP that Hennessey package adds though.. of course now I wouldn't mind trying to race him again

 

Artguy,

Get your schit straight.

I do not sell V8 conversions nor do I hate rotaries.

Oh yeee-haw... I love my mullet....

 

In real world terms, those numbers are hardly usable. Realistically, every car I've seen, able to rev. 10k, would has had far more torque, and therefore a greater power potential, once again giving it the advantage on the highway. Gearing/physics complicates all of this though, so to get down to it, the viper will win.

Everyone knows this (or should), but my point was that an RX-7 from a roll, would always be better off than a stop because of the lack in low end torque. Turbo charged 7's make their power in the mid-range, meaning from a roll, we are better off, taking it into the higher RPM range. For arguments sake, FD's with the equivalent power of a viper, will always be better off with a higher rev. range (especially when you consider that the transmission is geared towards the powerband/given rpms).

Take jdhuegel1 and calm down with the flaming. Much of this should have been understood already, but you can make your points, without resorting to belittling people.

 

You people are forgetting the most important part of racing. THE DRIVER!

When I was around 300rwhp I was able to hang right with 2 GTS's on the highway and pull an RT10 on the streets. With the same mods I also stayed right beside 2 Z06's on the highway!

So that means they both run the exact same or the faster car had a worse/inexperienced driver!

We all know the viper has the edge but does it have the driver to back it up, I don't think so.

 

Yep