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Old 10-04-11, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RENESISFD
I myself do not particulary like drifting. I do appreciate the driver skill and car setup required to make a car do stuff like that. You do not do it by accident.

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+1...I used to enjoy it, not so much anymore, but definitely appreciate the skill involved.

Btw, do freestyle moto x riders put ***** brake levers on their handlebars for more leverage too
Old 10-04-11, 12:05 PM
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drifting doesn't even come close to motocross, flying 50 feet through the air doing backflips and front flips risking paralization or worse. have they gotten to the point of barrel rolls yet?
Old 10-04-11, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
drifting doesn't even come close to motocross, flying 50 feet through the air doing backflips and front flips risking paralization or worse. have they gotten to the point of barrel rolls yet?
if you seriously cant appreciate the amount of driving skill it takes to do what pro drifters do, then theres something wrong with you

no one cares whether you like it or not, everyone is just saying that there is ridiculous amount of skill needed to perform those driving techniques

i know many road racers that have pretty decent reputations out here in florida, and even they all say that drifting requires an immense amount of skill because you are literally controlling an out of control car

furthermore, you try going into a turn sideways at 90+mph, stay sideways through out, then completely switch directions and come out of the turn with your car in one piece...oh and dont forget the other guy who you're racing against thats about a foot from touching your bumper through all of that

...if you dont dont think thats considerable skill...and that its nothing compared to motocross then you're just not paying attention or something lol
Old 10-04-11, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Davin
How does Red Bull afford to sponsor so much between the drift car, F1, soap box race, air race, ect?
Everyone drinks it! and it is great advertising!
Old 10-04-11, 01:07 PM
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it's my opinion, i'm not forcing anyone to agree with it.

i also never said it didn't involve skill, don't feed words into my mouth. i said it isn't a sport, it's professional goofing off.. and i do chuckle everytime i see someone ditch their car during a "race".

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Old 10-04-11, 01:15 PM
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Regardless of what the car is used for, that engine is badass!
Old 10-04-11, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by moosejaw

Once you drive an FD, driving anything else would be hard to see.
No good

Originally Posted by got_hp
Once you drive a 7, nothing else will feel like heaven.

I like

Originally Posted by CYD
Once you've driven an FD, the rest will leave you feeling empty.
Awesome!

Originally Posted by pito13b
Regardless of what the car is used for, that engine is badass!
What i would do to have that engine in my car!
Old 10-04-11, 06:59 PM
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roflmao through this whole thread...

as for pierced tongues... I have several friends with these and asked about their "oral effectiveness" (lol) ... and they all said "it does nothing, either giving or receiving". Although there may be a psychological effect to add to the aphrodisiac aspect ? People I meet with them, seem to be more "orally" receptive! lol

Red Bull could afford to sponsor racing on the Moon! every club in the world is pouring drinks with Red Bull.

At no point did I think this guy and his fd was bogus - and would love to see more build info. In fact, I wonder if those rims come in 17" ??

Correct me if Im wrong, but arent most major cities in Cali (especially the Bay Area) controlled by Dems, and they're not "poverty stricken" ... thats not to say the state isnt in serious financial debt, but still.
Old 10-04-11, 07:28 PM
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More info on the recent build:

http://www.madmike.co.nz/component/c...-ready-for-war

A few more vids etc:

http://www.madmike.co.nz/news-archive

His 4 rotors been around for a couple of years, but I couldn't find any decent articles covering the engine build. It is made by PPRE in NZ though, you can have a look at their engine packages here:
http://www.pulseperformance.co.nz/in...p?page=product

their 4 rotor turbo jetsprint boat is doing the rounds here in NZ, makes just over 1000hp apparently. youtube 'ppre boat' for some vids.
Old 10-04-11, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
i said it isn't a sport, it's professional goofing off..

well technically.... the majority of respected "professional sports" is just a bunch of guys on a field/court playing around with different sized ***** and getting sweaty with each other

i think its just as credible of a sport as any other form of motorsport, if not moreso than something like nascar, which to the outside is just a bunch of guys going around in a circle for a couple hours.

while i dont follow drifting at all, i do appreciate that the top level drifters have an incredible amount of driving skill (split second steering, throttle, brake control).

drifting competition is based upon outrageous ridiculous maneurvers and showmanship... so it seems only natural that the drivers/teams outfit their cars with equally flamboyant color/paint schemes, bodykits, and interiors etc. it caters to their target demographic of ADHD redbull slurping 18-24yo males.

but under the skin of the top level cars is some serious engineering and ingenuity.
Old 10-04-11, 08:05 PM
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I use Pulse Performance for all my engine work and after asking the owner of the shop how this guy manages to fund these two cars (I havn't heard anything about either of the two cars being retired??), it turns out hes not only a dahm good driver, but he is also one hell of a marketing guru. He has managed to sell his image and skills to redbull and a number of other sponsers without any assistance, and does this almost as a full time job (as well as owning a signwriting company).

Ya gotta have a bit of respect for the guy! (and this is coming from someone that couldnt really care less for drifting).
Old 10-04-11, 08:59 PM
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The guy drifts a 4 rotor FD, who cares about anything else, he is cool no matter how you look at him!!!
Old 10-04-11, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MOBEONER
The guy drifts a 4 rotor FD, who cares about anything else, he is cool no matter how you look at him!!!
Truth spoken
Old 10-05-11, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RENESISFD
^ You serious?

He cut the front and rear off of the car to fabricate/install a tube frame. Guess he did a good job because you couldnt tell.



The "*****" shifter is like that for leverage. It is not for looks. Did you read the thread?

For the steering obviously he did something to be able to make the car turn back around after spinning almost 180 degrees.

He has done almost all of the work himself in his shop. Yea, he is a moron


John

He had a team of 5 people build the car for him and the only work you actually see he did himself was apply stickers with a hair dryer. He doesn't even mention that in the video and tries to take all the credit for himself. Did you read the thread?

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...ered-pt-1.aspx

This is not a tube frame. That is a tubular bumper bar and radiator support with wings tacked on for the body kit, headlights, and oil coolers. The original unibody is intact behind the strut towers.
Old 10-05-11, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TURSTY
I use Pulse Performance for all my engine work and after asking the owner of the shop how this guy manages to fund these two cars (I havn't heard anything about either of the two cars being retired??), it turns out hes not only a dahm good driver, but he is also one hell of a marketing guru. He has managed to sell his image and skills to redbull and a number of other sponsers without any assistance, and does this almost as a full time job (as well as owning a signwriting company).

Ya gotta have a bit of respect for the guy! (and this is coming from someone that couldnt really care less for drifting).


Drifting isn't my thing either, neither is monster trucks, BMX, motocross etc..... but I enjoy watching it for about 5 minutes and I have the utmost respect for anyone who does what they love especially when they do it in a 4 rotor FD. Really unique drift car and thanks for posting
Old 10-05-11, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GodSquadMandrake
He had a team of 5 people build the car for him and the only work you actually see he did himself was apply stickers with a hair dryer. He doesn't even mention that in the video and tries to take all the credit for himself. Did you read the thread?

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...ered-pt-1.aspx

This is not a tube frame. That is a tubular bumper bar and radiator support with wings tacked on for the body kit, headlights, and oil coolers. The original unibody is intact behind the strut towers.
isn't this also engine #4?

oddly the 787B lasted 24 hours while revved to the moon, gets torn down, inspected and then reassembled with almost all of the original parts.
Old 10-05-11, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
isn't this also engine #4?
After talking to Pulse, apparently this is still the first motor that was put into the car back in the day when it was white with camo and its never even been pulled apart. Where did you hear this was engine #4 from?

Old 10-05-11, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GodSquadMandrake
He had a team of 5 people build the car for him and the only work you actually see he did himself was apply stickers with a hair dryer. He doesn't even mention that in the video and tries to take all the credit for himself. Did you read the thread?

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...ered-pt-1.aspx


This is not a tube frame. That is a tubular bumper bar and radiator support with wings tacked on for the body kit, headlights, and oil coolers. The original unibody is intact behind the strut towers.
it's ridiculous that you guys act as if your his next door neighbor and you know exactly who build the car. Stop being jeleous of a guy who is successful and is living his dream. I've heard the guy was as rad and nice as they come..just as a lot of regular enthusiasts are. I've seen video's of why he decided to re do his car and what inspired him etc...and the way he talked about the car I would'nt be surprised if he did most of the work himeself. Of course people helped him..but it's his car..and his build.


[QUOTE=Karack;10812797]isn't this also engine #4?
QUOTE]

I believe you are correct... and everything i've read about the new set-up says the motor was rebuit but not by Pulse Performance.. I was a little surprised the car didn't make more power back when Pulse performance tuned it. something like 510 hp and 5XX tq... seems much more where it should be now...
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yeah, i could swear i heard numerous times in more than one place that it has gone through several motors. i honestly thought he built them himself, but after reading the thread, does he do anything on it himself? it surely didn't sound as healthy as most other 4 rotors in this current video, check out the BMI 4 rotor RX8 and how rev happy that quad rotor is.

http://youtu.be/P4Fgi1OQqao

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Originally Posted by Karack
isn't this also engine #4?

oddly the 787B lasted 24 hours while revved to the moon, gets torn down, inspected and then reassembled with almost all of the original parts.
dude you're way too harsh

you, as well as the rest of us, are light years away from being justified in ranking on this guy

u want to rank on a 13b that you think isn't done right then go ahead, but this is way out of all of our leagues lol

and you're comparing the 787B (a $1 million+ car that was built by Mazda for Le Mans) to a drift car sponsored by Red Bull...no **** its not gona be the same thing
Old 10-08-11, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
it's ridiculous that you guys act as if your his next door neighbor and you know exactly who build the car. Stop being jeleous of a guy who is successful and is living his dream. I've heard the guy was as rad and nice as they come..just as a lot of regular enthusiasts are. I've seen video's of why he decided to re do his car and what inspired him etc...and the way he talked about the car i would'nt be surprised if he did most of the work himeself. Of course people helped him..but it's his car..and his build.

+1,000,000
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Some of these threads make me feel like I'm in high school again! Drama drama drama lol. Absolutely beautiful car, very jealous of mike and his fd!
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Here is my slogans! "Once you drive a 7... all else feels like a lemon"

and drifting looks cool and I love to watch it because of the skill it takes... I watch things because I can't do them... thats my theory! haha
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Originally Posted by curacaosfinest
dude you're way too harsh

you, as well as the rest of us, are light years away from being justified in ranking on this guy

u want to rank on a 13b that you think isn't done right then go ahead, but this is way out of all of our leagues lol

and you're comparing the 787B (a $1 million+ car that was built by Mazda for Le Mans) to a drift car sponsored by Red Bull...no **** its not gona be the same thing
working on a 4 rotor shaft/block at the moment, still taking measurements before machining but hopefully should be done within the year and will be a basis for future sales if all goes well. also working on a twin charged 13B, supercharged/turbocharged but both of these are side projects, not immediately paying bills so being done as time permits.

i'd love to have a sponsor like red bull, because he likely could dump several hundred thousand into his car without having to spend a dime out of pocket. i could also build a more serious car with that kind of funding.

all i'm getting at is who built the engine if he didn't. i see Kiwi RE decals on the car so that is the assumption i'm going to make as to the engine and was simply curious why the engine keeps failing and sounds detuned.

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Originally Posted by Karack
working on a 4 rotor shaft/block at the moment, still taking measurements before machining but hopefully should be done within the year and will be a basis for future sales if all goes well. also working on a twin charged 13B, supercharged/turbocharged but both of these are side projects, not immediately paying bills so being done as time permits.

i'd love to have a sponsor like red bull, because he likely could dump several hundred thousand into his car without having to spend a dime out of pocket. i could also build a more serious car with that kind of funding.

all i'm getting at is who built the engine if he didn't. i see Kiwi RE decals on the car so that is the assumption i'm going to make as to the engine and was simply curious why the engine keeps failing and sounds detuned.
again...you're just making claims man

build your car, build your 4-rotor, prove it's better than Mad Mike's, then you can do all the **** talking you want

until any of us have done that, we are in no position to come down on the guy

he's got a badass rx7, he's making mad money because of it, and on top of all that he seems to be a pretty cool down to earth guy

let it go. if you want to know all the stuff about the engine, theres another section to post up a thread to get all your questions answered...just wrong to be ranking on this guy


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