LS1 Vs. Fd for lots of money
08-02-02, 09:51 AM
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Re: Re: LS1 Vs. Fd for lots of money
Originally posted by AnthonyNYC
From a light I would say you have a 75% chance of losing. That car is an automatic. He will make no mistakes launching. You on the other hand, might spin too much, get wheel hop and let off etc......
If you really want to race him, race him from a roll and I would say you will take him with the intake.
Just my 2 cents...
Anthony
From a light I would say you have a 75% chance of losing. That car is an automatic. He will make no mistakes launching. You on the other hand, might spin too much, get wheel hop and let off etc......
If you really want to race him, race him from a roll and I would say you will take him with the intake.
Just my 2 cents...
Anthony
look out ofr LS-1 cars.....
08-02-02, 10:30 AM
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Where do people get that a LS1 equiped z28 is a slouch? From a stop I doubt you will take him, from a roll you will edge him out not stomp him! Get the apexi intake and you will own him.
08-02-02, 11:17 AM
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you should win.
but just race for $100 if you're concerned about it too much. Spend the other money on an intake.
and PRACTICE your launching on whatever road you decide to race on.
but just race for $100 if you're concerned about it too much. Spend the other money on an intake.
and PRACTICE your launching on whatever road you decide to race on.
08-02-02, 11:29 AM
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race from a roll..
and the popular thing for domestics around here is ALL INTERNAL work.. popping the hood and looking it over will tell you nothing.. some even use a stock airbox. Watch out for those that are bored out, with cams, and rockers or whatever else is in there.
and the popular thing for domestics around here is ALL INTERNAL work.. popping the hood and looking it over will tell you nothing.. some even use a stock airbox. Watch out for those that are bored out, with cams, and rockers or whatever else is in there.
08-02-02, 11:52 AM
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Re: should win.....
Originally posted by Dragueur
Z28 are probably running as fast if even as a STOCK FD....
but who knows...try it and tell us about it...
Z28 are probably running as fast if even as a STOCK FD....
but who knows...try it and tell us about it...
are you thinking LT1 Z28 or LS1 z28
the LT1's are mid to high second cars in the 1/4
it seems like most of you are thinking of an LT1
a LS1 will run the 1/4 around the 12.8-13.3 range from what I understand
the car has something like 300hp at the wheels since GM likes to underate things, and a **** load of torque
since I am kinda out of my own are on this forum though I do not know your mods but unless you are running at least in that range I wouldn't bet money on the race
race him for fun though just to see how things go
08-02-02, 12:02 PM
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I have race video between me and my friends z28 conv.
I got him pretty bAD
Http://www.apexi-us.com/midnight3.mpg
I got him pretty bAD
Http://www.apexi-us.com/midnight3.mpg
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08-02-02, 12:39 PM
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so....
an SS will run mid to low 12s??? around a ZO6 and a VIPER?? stock.....
who knows..i dont know shiet about domestics...my friends TBIRD is makin 450+ hp and running low 12s only...of course he is fishtailin through first 1/4 of the track.....(auto)
who knows..i dont know shiet about domestics...my friends TBIRD is makin 450+ hp and running low 12s only...of course he is fishtailin through first 1/4 of the track.....(auto)
08-02-02, 01:03 PM
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The average stock LS-1 camaro is not going to lay down a 12.8.
Average LS-1 Camaro times are low to mid 13s. An LT-1 Camaro is a high 13 second car just like the stock FD.
To the original poster: if you have a downpipe and cat-back, I would expect a very close race with an SS. It will definitely come down to who drives the best on each run. If he has a stock LT-1, you should be able to take from a stop or a roll. I still wouldn't put that much money on it either way.....
Average LS-1 Camaro times are low to mid 13s. An LT-1 Camaro is a high 13 second car just like the stock FD.
To the original poster: if you have a downpipe and cat-back, I would expect a very close race with an SS. It will definitely come down to who drives the best on each run. If he has a stock LT-1, you should be able to take from a stop or a roll. I still wouldn't put that much money on it either way.....
08-02-02, 03:33 PM
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How about this one this will get everybody going. I put an LS1 in my FC DON'T WORRY IT STARTED OUT LIFE AS AN SE MODEL AND IT WAS SLATED FOR THE YARD BEFORE I SAVED IT Anyway I put in an LS1 T56 (six speed) from a trans am. I have dynod it and while the engine is only rated at 305 from the factory, it put 315hp and 342 TQ to the wheels totally stock 70K motor nothing changed but plugs. The car only weighs 2795lbs with TII suspension and enkei RPO1 wheels.I drive it every day and the damn thing gets 25 MPG.
I took it to the track and ran 12.8 @ 112 on Kuhmo 255's street tires. Go ahead and bash all you want, but I got the best of both worlds a cool car and an assload of reliable power.
I took it to the track and ran 12.8 @ 112 on Kuhmo 255's street tires. Go ahead and bash all you want, but I got the best of both worlds a cool car and an assload of reliable power.
08-02-02, 04:36 PM
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i agree...you need good tires and you have to be very quick on the shifts....i raced a supercharged c5 automatic about a year ago (before about 85hp in mods done) and got beat by two car lengths simply because he did not lose a beat during the shifts and because he launched quicker due to more rubber.
it will be close...get a set of yokohama intermediates for the rear and get the intake...if you have new yokos you will launch immediately and jump him by a car right off the line....once he hits third though..yer probably toast.
you have him in the weight department...you have to take advantage of your launch...if you get a great launch he will have a hard time keeping up...assuming you shift extremely well and FAST too.
that vette i raced pulled on me each time i touched the clutch at all...once i was in gear id gain some back..then Id lose it again when he shifted.
tis the way of the automatic.
j
it will be close...get a set of yokohama intermediates for the rear and get the intake...if you have new yokos you will launch immediately and jump him by a car right off the line....once he hits third though..yer probably toast.
you have him in the weight department...you have to take advantage of your launch...if you get a great launch he will have a hard time keeping up...assuming you shift extremely well and FAST too.
that vette i raced pulled on me each time i touched the clutch at all...once i was in gear id gain some back..then Id lose it again when he shifted.
tis the way of the automatic.
j
08-02-02, 05:07 PM
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i'd get nitto555r's more than an intake...even better idea would be to get the launch kit from pettit, and the nitto555r's. I say you will dust his *** because I speak from experience. I can take a z28 fairly well, I can even take an SS but those go either way.
Oh and I don't believe the Lt 1 camaro's are high 13 second cars. When I was bone stock I raced a '96 automatic corvette on the way back from school off roll and I pulled about 2 cars on him instantly.
Oh and I don't believe the Lt 1 camaro's are high 13 second cars. When I was bone stock I raced a '96 automatic corvette on the way back from school off roll and I pulled about 2 cars on him instantly.
08-02-02, 05:11 PM
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to put things in the ls 1's perspective...
If I was going into a race with a twin turbo car for 5 bills, I'd consider two things...
1) That it's really easy for a turbo car to up the boost (let's say he doesn't know much about rotary's)
2) I'd pack 100 shot just for insurance purposes (about 150 bucks)...his motor will more than handle a 100 shot of NOS. Also add in the fact that he can get drag radials on there and it's getting pretty bad.
If I was in your position I'd race straight 1/4 mile and I'd get nitto555r tires and good launch kit. Anyway that's what I'm taking with me against the BPU big boy!
If I was going into a race with a twin turbo car for 5 bills, I'd consider two things...
1) That it's really easy for a turbo car to up the boost (let's say he doesn't know much about rotary's)
2) I'd pack 100 shot just for insurance purposes (about 150 bucks)...his motor will more than handle a 100 shot of NOS. Also add in the fact that he can get drag radials on there and it's getting pretty bad.
If I was in your position I'd race straight 1/4 mile and I'd get nitto555r tires and good launch kit. Anyway that's what I'm taking with me against the BPU big boy!
08-02-02, 05:51 PM
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Just Do it!
Dude...Just wear some gloves...because you gonna have to hand his *** to him!!! LOL! The Z28 or LS1 are fast cars also...but so is our 1.3brew TT....My car is mildly modded and pulled on a LS1 at Fontana. I beat him with my wack as time at 13.5 and his at 14 something...He even redlined and I still beat him...driver mistake I guess...But don't make any mistakes.
ITs an automatic so he will beat you at launch but by 2nd gear you should take him. Good luck bud and let us all know how it turns out!
ITs an automatic so he will beat you at launch but by 2nd gear you should take him. Good luck bud and let us all know how it turns out!
08-02-02, 06:31 PM
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my good friend runs a slightly modded 2000 camaro ss.
i raced him on a pettit intake..downpipe..and catback...and streetport....lost to him by a half car length four times in a row 0-150 mph. I did not gain on him at all...he would jump me a bit thru first and second and then Id just hold on.
this peeved me off...i hate camaros....and thus have spent and modified my car heavily since then.
I was a Noob at the time and it took that loss for me to go and get a gforce ecu upgrade. with the proper fuel for my mods at the time I pulled on him by a car and a half in the quarter...maybe two.
I honestly doubt any stock rx with exhaust etc will do anthing other than keep up...but like i said...the tires would be the thing that will help you the most...even more than an intake Id suppose.
good luck...let us know how it goes
j
i raced him on a pettit intake..downpipe..and catback...and streetport....lost to him by a half car length four times in a row 0-150 mph. I did not gain on him at all...he would jump me a bit thru first and second and then Id just hold on.
this peeved me off...i hate camaros....and thus have spent and modified my car heavily since then.
I was a Noob at the time and it took that loss for me to go and get a gforce ecu upgrade. with the proper fuel for my mods at the time I pulled on him by a car and a half in the quarter...maybe two.
I honestly doubt any stock rx with exhaust etc will do anthing other than keep up...but like i said...the tires would be the thing that will help you the most...even more than an intake Id suppose.
good luck...let us know how it goes
j
08-06-02, 03:08 PM
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Re: Just Do it!
Originally posted by Batmobile
Dude...Just wear some gloves...because you gonna have to hand his *** to him!!! LOL! The Z28 or LS1 are fast cars also...but so is our 1.3brew TT....My car is mildly modded and pulled on a LS1 at Fontana. I beat him with my wack as time at 13.5 and his at 14 something...He even redlined and I still beat him...driver mistake I guess...But don't make any mistakes.
ITs an automatic so he will beat you at launch but by 2nd gear you should take him. Good luck bud and let us all know how it turns out!
Dude...Just wear some gloves...because you gonna have to hand his *** to him!!! LOL! The Z28 or LS1 are fast cars also...but so is our 1.3brew TT....My car is mildly modded and pulled on a LS1 at Fontana. I beat him with my wack as time at 13.5 and his at 14 something...He even redlined and I still beat him...driver mistake I guess...But don't make any mistakes.
ITs an automatic so he will beat you at launch but by 2nd gear you should take him. Good luck bud and let us all know how it turns out!
thos cars are easy low 13 seconds
if you are a really good driver you can hit the high 12's
08-06-02, 03:17 PM
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Dang man, should of posted a little earlier and we could have tricked your car out b4 the race just for grins I had taken my ecu, hi flow cat, and intake off. You would certainly of won then 
Oh well, I still think you can take him. I beat won against one when all I had was a dp....not too difficult.
I had taken my ecu, hi flow cat, and intake off. You would certainly of won then Oh well, I still think you can take him. I beat won against one when all I had was a dp....not too difficult.
08-06-02, 03:52 PM
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08-06-02, 05:24 PM
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man... you'll eat'em alive. easy on the gas and when once your moving just keep it floored. no contest. if you lose you should feel embarass and maybe go buy a mustang v6 or something. AND if you are a decent installer, then you should know if he's modded. AND that alone gives you the advantages period. unless of course he know what you got too.
good luck & if you're really are asking about this race, god be with you.
good luck & if you're really are asking about this race, god be with you.
08-06-02, 06:12 PM
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The baby's are the people crying when they loose to the bottle.