mibad

Drove my new FD to work yesterday for the first time. I bought it with a blown motor and dropped a reman in after doing a silcone hose job, new clutch, exhaust, O2 sensor.
It's been great for the last week. Starting every time, running smooth.
I noticed at lunchtime that the lower IC hose wasn't on and I'd been driving with a normally aspirated engine. I put it back on and drove it home. The car was amazingly quick. I resisted the temptation to put my foot into it. I want to break the engine in right. I let it idle a couple min before I turned it off. Pulled it into the garage later. This morning it cranks, but wont start. I don't know if I have what it takes to be an FD owner if this is any indication of what they're like. I drive it to work one day and it doesn't start the next. I want to drive the M/F everyday! I'm hoping it's just flooded, but having to drive the Eclipse to work this morning was depressing! The car still has the original injectors with 70k miles on them. Should I replace them?

DaveW

It's not unusual to have a flooded engine if you start your car and then shut it off after less than a couple minutes of running. I'd think, therefore, it's just flooded. If you search, there are lots of threads on various un-flooding procedures.

mibad

Thanks. I'll remember that little tidbit. I don't think there's anything really wrong. It just put a damper on the old enthusiam when I couldn't drive it this morning.

Nuvolari

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After two reman cores, three sets of stock turbos a tranny, fifth gear syncro, cracked AST, a fuel leak, misc other issues. One conclusion is made. First your car is ten years old, and a very bad choice as a daily driver.

Don’t give up though; you’re going to have plenty of teething problems with your car the first few years. Do some more research and if you want to keep it "reliable" watch the mods, once you mess with these to much it’s a spiral leading to single turbo conversion

mibad

Yea, I really do love the car, and the Eclipse Spyder GT is fine for my daily driver. Although my friend's girlfriend said the Eclipse is a "girly car."
I haven't had the FD very long and the thought keeps bouncing around that if I sold both the Eclipse and the FD I could get an S2000 or G35 coupe. Then I look at the FD in the garage at night and think "OMG that's a beautiful and rare sports car. No way am I ever getting rid of it."

CantGoStraight

Should be in the FAQ's and general information for these cars, being a new engine I wouldn't expect it to be a carbon thing. They say the worst thing you can do with these cars is crank it up move it a short distance and shut it off. As the enginge gets some age/miles on itthe carbon thing becomes an issue right now it just seems you have a new motor with old injectors and it's most likely just flooded. Personally if I have to move my car I take it for a short ride (man I hate to have to do it !) let warm up and enjoy the inconveniance. Just remember to bring to operating temp if you start it up and enjoy the car, no reason for not using it as a daily driver, sitting isn't any better for these cars, they need to be driven. Jack

BLKTOPTRVL

Side trip...

A neighbor bought a 2nd gen. He always had trouble with it flooding. He knocked on my door one morning because he knew that I have a couple 7s. I told him not to start it and then just shut it off - it has to warm up.

He continued to start it and shut it off anyway and then sold it. He later told me that RX-7s are crap cars and I was a fool to take my chances with it. In the 5 years I have owned my FD, the 18 years I have owned my vert, and the 5 years that I owned my FB, I think I flooded the cars a total of 5 times?

tiger18

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un flood it mate and you will be off again in love with a sexy car. my rebuilt engine flooded out a few times for first month, but once you get some mileage on it will stop like mine has, I bought my RX7 from japan as here in the UK there was only 100 cars imported for special customers, so driving around in one of these cars gets you more looks than driving a ferrari.,, weird thing is since i rebuilt my motor and did hose job and other little mods such as AST,,, my car has run like a dream for 4 months,,,,everyday driving... NICE

mibad

Cool. I learned something today. Can I go home now?

PDX RX-7

I'm doing new injectors as I write, I was informed that having 60k on the injectors when they did the engine they should have done those as well.......they are good for 60-80k from what I understand. I ALWAYS have a second car. I don't care to drive the RX in the rain and juuuuuust in case it is acting up ;D

JaNusSolSumnus

Yea.. I've had mine for a year and never had an issue with flooding... only starting issue I ever had was a battery terminal. Tore the engine down and had very little if any carbon, just enough to be a 'film' on the rotor and the ports were rather clean.

It is a change of lifestyle to own one of these cars because of the little tricks of them but you take the good with the bad, and even some of the bad you can respect...

~Kris

coolvette

I have owned a 82 gs,87turboII,and 2 fds and i have never had a flooded car.What causes this?

mibad

I did the unflood procedure and still nothing. I'm kickin myself trying to figure out wtf?
So I asked myself what was the last thing I did before it stopped working.....I put the plastic interior panel back over the ECU. Pulled it back off and checked all the connections on the ECU. I felt one of them click when I pushed on it. Vroom Vroom. : )

CantGoStraight

This is why you only do one mod at a time ! ! ! ! ! ! So much easier to back track LOL !!!! Nice work.

1QWIK7

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damn, glad to hear you got it back

but on the note of flooding, i dont think its as common to FD's as they are to FC's..i do the start and shut off in my FD more than i can imagine and it never flooded once..although i dont do it if its not necessary but if i have to move my car to a spot, im sure as hell not gonna wait 5-10 minutes to warm up..so far no problems..

CantGoStraight

The starting it up and shutting it down right away isn't for flooding. It's more of an issue of carbon comming loose and then geting picked up under an apex seal and caousing comperssion loss. Workst case senario has been high milage engines with heavey carbon having a large piece flake off and lock up a rotor. My understanding of what I've read. I'm sure someone else can elaborate.

1QWIK7

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^^no that makes sense

so if people really want to know if their engine has alot of carbon buildup, they should do this start and shut off test?

relatively speaking of course

BLKTOPTRVL

? I have never changed the injectors in my vert in 18 years. Where did you hear 80K?

kuning

You're not the only one

JaNusSolSumnus

There is an actual lifetime rating for an injector, something in the millions of cycles... Mallory Injection could give an accurate number... in any case it is suggested that injectors be cleaned/replaced after 80-120k in a high-performance vehicle such as the RX. This is due to the changes in flow that can occur over time from build up and age.

~Kris