wb123

Looking to replace my full suspension this summer.

Could i get some estimated pricing on the parts that I should buy when doing a job like this? I understand that the FD has many different bushings as well.

Im looking to replace all of the bushings (that arent totally dmged) and wanting to replace the shocks and springs as well.

What steps and parts should i buy when doing a full suspension change out.

Please list the parts and ~ aproximate pricing for each part in this thread, thanks!

pincusa

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First question, what tires are you using, and if you're not using the best performance tires, why not? I think they are one of the major components on a suspension that people cheap out on.

Bushings should be replaced if they're worn, but that's not really going to buy you a of change.

There are lots of shocks, springs, and sways out there. That's where you're going to see a real change. I'm running the tokico with stock springs and like the feel. Still good for the street.

A suggestion might be for you to describe what you want to do with the car (street, AutoX, track, etc) and then people might tell you what they've done.

wb123

Ok thank you for your write up there.

I am looking to do mostly street driving, with some AutoX every now and then.

I am currently using stock tires, they are very bald =-) I definately have to get those changed.

So are you suggesting that I will notice the most improvements from Good Tires and a aftermarket Spring/Coil over set up?

I was looking into the Tokiko Could overs with Ebachi springs...

wb123

Ok just looking for some advice and steps to take when up grading the suspension/tires.

I wanna keep my stock rims but change the rubber, and go for a bit lower ride height on stiff shocks/springs

Should i be replacing my trailing arms and control arms when doing the shocks / springs?

i need some input here guys ..

Mahjik

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My suggestions:

Tokico Shocks
New OEM upper shock mounts
RSR Down Springs
New OEM Pillow Ball bushings

You really shouldn't need to do anything else....

wb123

So if i go to RX7 store.com i can find all of those things listed there?

wb123

RSR compared to Eibachi ?

wb123

Buying Struts + Springs is almost as much as buying a coilover set

Is there much advantage to buying a coilover set as compaird to a strut/spring set up?

wb123

What about something like Apexi N1 Dampen shocks?

I know that when buying a coil over paid your guarenteed to have the shocks and springs match perfect.

Now when purchasing a 1 brand of strust and 1 brand of spring it wont match 100%


In terms of performance, will you really notice a big difference from the full coilover set up?

Also, I am looking to have something for long term, as I will be modding my car for years to come. I dont wanna have to replace my shock/springs every few years just to accomadate for my mods/purpose of using my vehicle

wb123

Also
Looking at some Tien Basic Damper coilovers, they are about 300$ cheaper then the Apexi N1s,

Is there much of a difference between the 2 coilover in terms of what you get for price?

wb123

Along with all of that what tires do you recommend ?

Im looking for something more mid end, something around 600-800 worth for all 4 tires...

wb123

If i were to buy coil overs would Pillow Ball bushings and upper shock mounts come included in the package or are these seperate parts?

wb123

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/me...lover%20fd.htm
anyone have expereince with these?
THey look decent, good price and easily adjustable

Kento

From what I've seen for their damping rates, those things are waay too stiff for any reasonable street use, and unless your autox is billiard-table flat, useless for that too.

No, you're not. There are plenty of coilovers out there that come with spring rates that are stiff enough to support a Mack truck...

It will if you know what you're looking for. You need to do some research instead of just asking a general question that could have a thousand answers.

Only at the outer reaches of track use, and you'll need to have them properly set up for your car and driving style.

You need to learn to walk before you can run. Follow Mahjik's advice and get to know the feel of the car with those components first. Don't fall for the trap of just going for broke with high-end racing parts thinking that you'll need them sooner or later...because the fact is, you may not.

DMoneyRX-7

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I've been having the same question and from some research I learned that streetability and handling all lies in the spring rates. The Tein Basic Coilovers and the SS' have higher spring rates that aren't really proper for what you are wanting to achieve. The coilover I and howard coleman and many others would recommend would be the Tein Flex. These are the way to go but also dig more into your pockets. But I have ridden in a FD with them and they are so nice. Smooth, great handle, and very streetable.

Now if you want that same feel but not the price you should go with some springs with close to the same spring rates.

Eibach, RSR, or Tein S-Tech springs along with Koni Yellows or Tokico Illuminas.

Koni Yellows cost slightly more but from what I researched they give better performance and 3 way rebound adjustability. Opposed to the Tokico Illuminas which give you 5 way simultaneous rebound and damping adjustability. Some like having the fine tune capability of the Koni's but it's all about preference. (these details might be wrong so just research a little more on these)

If I had my choice I would go with eibach springs and tokico illuminas (because I already have some eibachs). These have proven by many users to have great results. The RSR spring rates aren't enough for my liking.

I hope this helps.

Mahjik

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Cheap coilovers have crappy shocks. Shocks will make or break your handling.

The RSR Down Springs are almost the same spring rate as Eibach's. The main difference is the stance as the Eibach's lower the front a lot without lowering the rear much at all. The RSR Down Springs give the car a much more even look with similar spring rates.

wb123

What exactly do you mean by "drivability" with high end performance Coilovers? Do coilovers actually change the feel of the car that much?

wb123

Are you saying the "Megan racing" coilovers are cheap?

wb123

Sounds good to me i think im pretty much sold on this set up.

Tokiko Illuminas with RSR down springs for the win =)


Now if i was just looking for the best handling what would you guys recommend?

Mahjik

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Yes.

Same thing as I mentioned above. You need to allow the driver to catch up to the car before going any further.

wb123

For the Tokico shocks, do I have to take off the shock each time I want to adjust the stifness?

I see there are 5 settings, which setting do you guys use for every day driving?

wb123

Are you guys reffering me to the Illuminas or the HP strust by Tokico?

Mahjik

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Yes, the Illuminas.

No, it has **** on the top of each shock. You just turn the **** to what you want. You can do it at any time. The shock doesn't need to come off, and the car doesn't need to be off the ground to make adjustments.

The settings will depend on you. I typically use 5's all around for the track, but run the streets about 3-Front and 2-Rear.

wb123

I see some stores sell The Tokicos with the struts and shocks as well.

Are tokico shocks any good? or should i just get the Tokico struts and get the RSR shocks instead ?

Mahjik

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First off, the FD doesn't use "Struts"; it uses "Shocks". There is a difference.

People confuse them, but if the product is for the FD, it's a shock. Here you go:

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/tokicofd.htm