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Old 12-18-05, 09:40 AM
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Let me have it! I'm a newbie!

OK, I'm a newbie but I've read for hours on this website and I still would like to hear from the experts on my specific questions. I have a completely stock 95 with 8,500 miles. I bought a K&N filter, Bonez dp, and a slightly used AST. I would like to get a RB cb exhaust and a boost gauge. The exhaust looks so good and I have an R*SR cb on my 01 SH. It sounds great. Q#1 IF I get this exhaust what other products would you guys suggest to keep the car safe from boost spike or whatever else might happen? Products such as a Boost Controler or ECU? Q#2 Because the car is over 10 years old, what parts should I replace for safe lontime ownership? The car has lived in Texas its whole life and was kept in a climate contrlled garage. So all of the rubber looks and feels almost new. Thanks, Rick
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hours...I spent 20 mths on this website just sit back listening before do any modification to my bone stock 94.

I learned the rules are reliable mods, boost gauge, making sure turbos are working properly before doing any modifications.

Also I learned to SEARCH...there are tons of information on this board written by many experience RX7 owners.
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Thank you. I do plan on having the car checked out before I do anything. Actually I won't be doing any work. I am not a mechanic. I do love these cars though. I'm looking at taking the car to either AIM in Indy or the RX-7 store in Columbus.
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how much did you pay? haha

'95s are rare
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these sites should do yo alot of justice, they helped me plenty,

http://robrobinette.com
http://www.fd3s.net
http://www.rx7guru.com

These sites should help you out alot,atlease give you basic understanding of things that happen,can happen,will happen and how to fix them.
You dont wanna start modding your car until you've understand how your car works.

Following the threads in here can mix you up a bit,expecially if you dont know what the guys here are talking about,plus alot or too much arguing happens too.But, you will find alot of indiviuals thats are very involve and educated in there cars too.
So enjoy your stay here and make alot of friends.

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I payed 27K. I would have payed 30K. It is a PEP with every option except the Bose and the front R2 spoiler. So I put the R2 spoiler on it. And Thanks Keith for the sites. I've read them and have a good idea on what to do. Just wanted to hear answers or opinions on my specific mods. I figure there are some owners with the exact same mods. Very simple..filter,dp,ast,rb cb. rp
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If you're not wrenching (and nothing wrong with that), be prepare for big labor cost...it's definitely not cheap.

I did my own works with help from this site...save over $1000.00 so far in labor...

But if you have 27K to paid for mint 95 FD then I dont see money would be an issue.
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u should look into replacing the AST. along with silicone vacume lines, and while your in there, se if the rubber end of the fuel pulsation dampener is still rubber, if its hard, replace it.
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Thanks Willjs7, I have an AST to replace the OE. And I will get whatever mechanic I chose to check the FPD rubber. thanks,Rick
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I know those labor cost aren't cheap and I work hard to be able to afford them. I did put on the R1 spoiler though. Mazda wanted to charge way too much plus that was an easy one. rp
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I usually go by the 3 mod rule, I have dp intake and cb, with no aftermarket ecu or boost controller, and see no boost spikes or creep. I think anymore would be pushing it, I have a greddy profec b 2 coming in for a ebc, and still trying to figure out if i can use the pcf with an automatic. Anyways, i would get all your fluids changed if they havent been.
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Thanks pure.rp
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When you ask a question like you have, you will get a mixed bag of answers. Some will be good ones, from people who know what they are talking about. Others will not. You have a "mixed bag" on this thread .

Read the FAQ at the top of the 3rd gen section. Lots of good info there ............ unlike here

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Old 12-18-05, 12:09 PM
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With Intake + Downpipe + Exhaust, I would not do anything else past that until you have an ECU. You also need to keep your boost under control. You don't need any fancy boost controllers, just a gauge and your eyeballs to keep a lookout for any problems.

You should change the oil, filter, and coolant(!) as soon as you can... Keep in mind that this was a Texas car... for all you know, it barely has any antifreeze in it, and might be mostly water! In addition, antifreeze looses most of its anti-corrosion properties after just 2-3 years, so you should have it replaced with a mix of 50/50 anitfreeze and water. (Ideally use distilled water... you can usually buy this at the grocery store - NOT SPRING WATER.... Distilled water).

When you're ready to take the boost level up a bit, I would recommend buying a PowerFC, not a piggyback unit or a reprogrammed stock ECU. The PFC plugs right in, is fully programmable, and can be used with great results in a twin turbo or a single turbo car. In addition, it can be programmed for your exact car with the proper test gear and know-how. You didn't spend all that money for a mint car with an original engine to blow it up using inferior stuff did ya? Last I checked, the PFC was only around 900 bucks, and the reprogrammed or piggyback units were around 500 or more. Not much different if you ask me, and the PFC is 10x better than the other options. The PFC also supposedly controls boost with the stock twin turbos, but since I don't have the stock twins any more, I don't know how well it really works.

Do not put in a midpipe or a high flow cat until you have an ECU and someone to tune it. That's the best advice I can give you.... The midpipe makes a big difference, so you need to tune for it or your will definitely be putting your cherry engine at major risk.
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a catback and downpipe will not give you any spike. But if I were you, I will keep it stock untill I know much more about the car.
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Power FC are nice too, but will also cost another couple of hundred to tune to the the owner preference. The only good thing about piggyback ecu is that it is pre-tune for the specific parts already. So no tuning. Plug and Play.
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Thanks guys, everyone has helped. It's amazing how much info there is on this car. It really adds to the fun of owning one.thanks again, Rick
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Nice to see another 95 VR PEP owner...not too many of us.

With the downpipe and cat-back exhaust, you will likely still have safe boost levels, but if not, you can install a manual or electronic boost controller. As some have suggested, you could instead step up to an Apexi PFC engine computer in order to enjoy smoother running, the ability to make more power, adjust the temps fans come on, etc.

Don't bother trying to replace vacuum lines and such...with that mileage and being stored in a climate-controlled garage, I doubt you'll experience any problems for a long time.

Install the AST, the downpipe, the Racing Beat exhaust (great choice), boost and water temp gauges and enjoy the car. You can move up to the PFC once you are more familiar with the car and the effects of further modifications.
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Power FC are nice too, but will also cost another couple of hundred to tune to the the owner preference. The only good thing about piggyback ecu is that it is pre-tune for the specific parts already. So no tuning. Plug and Play.
lots of shops including the rx7store will send you a pfc with the correct map for your mods at no charge. after that, your on your own. good luck with your 95 rick.
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Thanks for the great info Rynberg and level7. nice cars guys
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If I'd just bought that car, I'd be leaving it pretty well alone...

Mod'ed cars a a blast to drive, but given my time over with mine, I think I'd have left it stock, and enjoyed it more...

I started out with "just an exhaust" and inlet too
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Congrats on the car. Sounds like a nice one.
BTW, I'm not a mechanic either, you just have to know your limits. Like that front air-dam, there are alot of things on this car that are easy to take care of and can give you alot of satisfaction and piece of mind to do yourself. Either way, welcome and enjoy.

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BS! I have dp, intake and stock cat and get boost creep, I am also a mile higher than sea level. You need a boost controller to make sure that you don't exceed stock boost 10-8-10, that won't do **** for boost spikes. You need an aftermarket ecu or fuel management before you open up the exhaust like that. Period. and/or else port the WG. I have heard that the PFC helps eliminate the boost spike, don't know yet mine is sitting brand new in the box. I got a manual BC just after seeing a minor spike on the freeway. Your stock ecu can't map the fuel and air ratios to make the car run right with increasing the boost, you need a Fuel management system. Up to you if you want to push it, I was told religiously not to add mid pipe after DP, and intake without fuel management. They are all right. Not worth a new engine.
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I can't believe guys are telling him to put a Dp and full exhaust on and he will be alright until he gets the PFC without fuel management? WTF? am I missing something here? What about creep, what about controlling boost, what about det.? anyone want to clear this up.
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Hey, post up some pics..........would like to see your car !


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