i did a search on this and couldnt find anything. what is the largest intercooler for the stock twins with out having to make a custom intercooler. Im just talking about an intercooler that you can buy on the market as of now.

 

greddy front mount

 

GReddy Type 24 V-spec, known on the Forum as the "2-row" GReddy FMIC.

 

okay now i was wondering which greddy piping kits work with the 2 row fmic. the 2 piece or 3 piece piping kit and also can i use the hks j-spec mega flow intakes with the greddy 2 row fmic.

 

The Type 24 V-spec GReddy FMIC kit comes with piping for EITHER standard elbow and twins, or GReddy elbow and twins. I recommend switching to an Efini Y/Cross-over pipe also.

If you plan to use the Koyo radiator, which is a MANDATORY UPGRADE WITH AN FMIC, then you can ONLY USE THE GREDDY AIRINX INTAKE. No other intake kit will fit with the Type 24 V-spec FMIC and Koyo radiator. The Koyo rad core is the BIGGEST RAD CORE AVAILABLE FOR THE RX7. You can get by with a Fluidyne (thinner rad core), and an Apexi intake, but you will still need to modify the Apexi intake to work with the GReddy 2-row and Fluidyne rad.

It's all good, because the Airinx is a damned good intake, and you get to hear the twins spooling up, and the stock blow-off valve whooshing sounds The GReddy Airinx comes with a hardpipe kit.

 

say if i use a fluidayne radiator cuz i hear its direct bolt on can i use the hks j-spec intakes and is the fluidayne with the greddy 2 row fmic as good as the greddy 2 row fmic with the koyo radiator

 

If you track your FD at all, I can only recommend my setup (J spec Twins/GReddy 2-row FMIC/Airinx/Koyo rad) for handling heat issues. You'll have to decide what you plan to use your FD for. If the FD's street-driven only, then I'd say ok, so long as you have a fan mod, or program your Power FC to kick the fans on at 86 and 87 C. See my sig for a complete list of mods.

 

im more of a highway type of racer and sometimes street race but thats really rare. I also do lots of back road racing. I really like the look of the hks j-spec intakes and since you get one for each turbo i really like that. so if i did the setup i want and did the fan trick would it help the cooling problems

 

i might autox once in a while but auto-x isnt really popular here and i dont know of any places that do it

 

I can't answer your question honestly, since I have no experience with the setup you're interested in. I can only speak for my setup, and it's been phenomenal thus far (85 C, 86 C tops--Indiana winter months). You will need to do more research and decide for yourself

 

well thanxs alot for the info sleepR1

 

i believe the m2 large is bigger than greddy. 24 x 12.375 x 3.5 thick. the greddy will probably be better for a stock twin setup, looks great and it is ~600 less. if you plan on moving some serious air in the future, i would go with a bar and plate construction core(more efficient).

 

What about the RX7 Fashion one using the APEXi Skyline core?

 

also the koyo is not hard to install, i'd install the greddy fmic and radiator at the same time because you'll need to reposition the radiator anyway.

 

i was wondering if i due buy the greddy 24v fmic due i need to buy the greddy intercooler piping kit or due they already come with it to replace the stock intercooler hoses

 

I think the rx7 fashion fmic is bigger then the greddy.

 

where can you buy this rx7 fashion fmic and can answer my question about the piping

 

GReddy FMIC kits come complete with all piping necessary to do the install. Actually the Apexi core and the GReddy Type 24 V-spec are about the same size. The GReddy Type 32 V-spec is bigger than the Apexi core, but the Type 32 V-spec is not suitable for twins because of too much pressure drop. You need T78 single turbo for the Type 32 V-spec (3-row) FMIC.

 

I believe this one is bigger then the greddy

http://newyorksteakhouse.com/eep/DSC01465.JPG

 

Not to hijack the thread but... What a m2 large be ineffienct with stock twins? or how bout upgraded bnr stage 3's? Would a M2 medium be more suitable?

 

Well this thread is about FMICs. I don't have an aftermarket SMIC, except for the old puny stock one, which is now sitting in a box in my attic.

You guys are losing sight of what you need to do. You should match your FMIC with your turbos. If you have stock or J-spec twins, then the GReddy Type 24 V-spec (2 row), Apexi, Blitz, HKS, will all work well. If you have a single turbo like a T78 size, then you DO need a large IC core like a GReddy Type 32 V-spec (3 row).

My opinion on SMICs. I don't think they work very well in cooling charge air like a well designed FMIC. If the SMICs outperformed FMICs in cooling intake charge air, you'd see GReddy, Apexi, HKS, Blitz with their own versions of large SMIC cores.

The originator of the large SMIC core is Kevin Wyum. Everyone else (Pettit, M2, PFS) copied his design. I think Kevin's a great guy, and very smart, so I won't berate his design.

I'm just stating my opinion, based on my experience with the GReddy Type 24 V-spec setup--which performs excellently with the J spec twins...nearly instantaneous boost response, ie no lag from the piping and large volume of the IC core.

Note the JDM manufacturers offer FMICs and V-mounts only. There are no JDM large SMIC cores. There was the direct replacement GReddy SMIC kit, but it's no longer available. That one was goofy. The core was as large as the PFS SMIC core, but required you to hack away at the stock SMIC ducting (WTF??).

 

m2 large is probably not the best choice with stock twins, but should work great with some stage 3's. although a m2 medium should flow enough for most streetable single setups, or so i am told.

 

I have a friend, radkins, with an M2 Medium. He's just put in a Pineapple Racing race ported motor, and plans to do a GT35/40 single turbo conversion. Now if he were doing a T78, then he'd probably need to do a 3-row FMIC GReddy, but the GT35/40 is a nice mid-sized hybrid single turbo that should match the M2 Med quite nicely. Of course, the GReddy FMIC 2 row would be better like nocab72's, but Ryan's already gone down the SMIC path, so no sense in undoing all that stuff now. Maxcooper has the M2 Medium with his single turbo, and has had no issues with the M2 Med setup...

 

tube and fin cores are cheap and that's why greedy, hk$ and apex use them. i am suprised there are no fmic kits available that use a bar and plate core.

 

does the greddy 24v fmic fit perfectly or do i have to grind my bumper to make it fit also will i ahve to relocate the battery and the radiator