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anyone have the part number for the two mounting brackets? Car came with a very old Fludyne Rad that has the brackets built in so I’m bracketless.
thank you
I was bracketless too. An easy alternative to the OEM brackets is to make your own, which is what I did. Just some AL stock drilled & bent in the right places, one bracket for each side. Here's pictures of the brackets on my Koyo to illustrate the basic design.
hey, thank you for the reply and pictures! Most likely if I’m unable to get my hands on some OEM ones then what you did is the plan B.
appreciate you
Originally Posted by Pete_89T2
I was bracketless too. An easy alternative to the OEM brackets is to make your own, which is what I did. Just some AL stock drilled & bent in the right places, one bracket for each side. Here's pictures of the brackets on my Koyo to illustrate the basic design.
it sits almost cockeyed and I can’t get it down on the brackets. The RH side fits into the bottom bracket hole but the LH side does not and the radiator makes contact with my oil cooler lines. My back hurts bending over pulling this in and out over and over but I can’t get it to fit.
I just finished installing a Koyo a few weeks ago. It went fairly smoothly (thanks to the great info on this thread) but one thing I didn't expect was how far I had to bend the lower mounting brackets down for the radiator to drop all the way down. Maybe something to check?
I just finished installing a Koyo a few weeks ago. It went fairly smoothly (thanks to the great info on this thread) but one thing I didn't expect was how far I had to bend the lower mounting brackets down for the radiator to drop all the way down. Maybe something to check?
I guess I could try bending them more but I don’t see why it’s not sitting evenly... it’s like I can get the RH into the hole for the bracket but not on the LH side.
I guess I could try bending them more but I don’t see why it’s not sitting evenly... it’s like I can get the RH into the hole for the bracket but not on the LH side.
If it's not fitting right, then either the brackets on the stabilizer bar mount that the radiator "pegs" on the bottom sit in with the rubber bushings are bent/misaligned relative to one another, or the 2 studs/rubber vibe isolator mounts are somehow misaligned - maybe one of those isn't screwed in all the way, so it prevents the other side from seating?
Mine dropped right in, even with my quicky fabricated AL bracket ears, and I have the same top bleeder plug on my Koyo that yours has.
If it's not fitting right, then either the brackets on the stabilizer bar mount that the radiator "pegs" on the bottom sit in with the rubber bushings are bent/misaligned relative to one another, or the 2 studs/rubber vibe isolator mounts are somehow misaligned - maybe one of those isn't screwed in all the way, so it prevents the other side from seating?
Mine dropped right in, even with my quicky fabricated AL bracket ears, and I have the same top bleeder plug on my Koyo that yours has.
I didn't have to bend those at all, the Koyo radiator dropped right in to those with the rubber peg pieces. Could be because the PO may have bent the brackets a bit to persuade the prior Megan racing radiator to fit in there.
I absolutely hate being stuck. I’ve bent the bottom brackets and still no luck. I’ve read countless threads on this install and it’s either 1) was no problem at all! Or 2) painful and how did they ever get it in?!
Im stuck in 2.... seems no matter what I do, nothing lines up. The stock radiator had no issues fitting.
Double check your stabilizer bar brackets and make sure one isn't bent. When I bought the car it had a Fluidyne previously and it sat okay. When I went to replace it with the Koyo it would not seat correctly at all. Found out my passenger side bracket was bent and after getting new ones the install went a lot smoother.
There may be some differences with your car being JDM. Also having the second oil cooler doesn't help, those hard lines get in the way big time.
You have an interference problem, something is keeping the radiator from going where it should. You have to step through and find where that spot is. I would also see if the stock radiator drops in still and compare how it fits to how the Koyo fits.
My guess is it may be the AC condenser it's fouling on. You may need to unbolt the condenser from the frame and let it hang down while you're working.
This is a job that needs access top and bottom and a good STRONG flashlight/shop light. Keep looking to find where it's fouling. You may have to do some trimming or move some things. TAKE YOUR TIME. Getting frustrated just leads to more problems if you start bashing on things or rushing it.
Is your radiator a regular one or the N-Flow? I'm still curious about that air bleed screw. Friend here in Pensacola got a new Koyo that was a regular one with no bleed screw.
Also post up some more pictures of the fit process. Top and bottom. We can figure this out.
There may be some differences with your car being JDM. Also having the second oil cooler doesn't help, those hard lines get in the way big time.
You have an interference problem, something is keeping the radiator from going where it should. You have to step through and find where that spot is. I would also see if the stock radiator drops in still and compare how it fits to how the Koyo fits.
My guess is it may be the AC condenser it's fouling on. You may need to unbolt the condenser from the frame and let it hang down while you're working.
This is a job that needs access top and bottom and a good STRONG flashlight/shop light. Keep looking to find where it's fouling. You may have to do some trimming or move some things. TAKE YOUR TIME. Getting frustrated just leads to more problems if you start bashing on things or rushing it.
Is your radiator a regular one or the N-Flow? I'm still curious about that air bleed screw. Friend here in Pensacola got a new Koyo that was a regular one with no bleed screw.
Also post up some more pictures of the fit process. Top and bottom. We can figure this out.
Dale
Dale,
Mine is the N-Flo version. I've also posted this in our Emerald Coast Facebook Group. I'm wondering if I just need to get new brackets for the bottom because they may be bent. I can't see that they are bent, but I'm running out of ideas unless someone from P-Cola area wants to come help hahaha. Banzai and others have suggested this may be the case as everything else is saying it should fit while doing the steps outlined in this thread. I've even looked at the Australian forums and they report doing as Banzai has in the install. So, running out of ideas except the replacing of the bottom brackets.
Those brackets are actually the sway bar mounts. It is common for them to be bent. They are available new from Mazda, they aren't too pricey if memory serves. Hit up Ray Crowe on those.
May want to post pictures of those brackets.
Yeah, I've been posting some on the EC Rotary thread too
There may be some differences with your car being JDM. Also having the second oil cooler doesn't help, those hard lines get in the way big time.
You have an interference problem, something is keeping the radiator from going where it should. You have to step through and find where that spot is. I would also see if the stock radiator drops in still and compare how it fits to how the Koyo fits.
My guess is it may be the AC condenser it's fouling on. You may need to unbolt the condenser from the frame and let it hang down while you're working.
This is a job that needs access top and bottom and a good STRONG flashlight/shop light. Keep looking to find where it's fouling. You may have to do some trimming or move some things. TAKE YOUR TIME. Getting frustrated just leads to more problems if you start bashing on things or rushing it.
Is your radiator a regular one or the N-Flow? I'm still curious about that air bleed screw. Friend here in Pensacola got a new Koyo that was a regular one with no bleed screw.
Also post up some more pictures of the fit process. Top and bottom. We can figure this out.
Dale
Dale just hit on 2 things I didn't have to deal with when my Koyo dropped right in - I installed my 2nd oil cooler & lines after doing the Koyo install, and I didn't have an A/C condenser at the time either. I now have all of that stuff in, and it all fits. A/C condenser is a generic 24"x12" parallel flow unit, which is about the biggest I could make fit.
A good flashlight, lots of patience and beer breaks is good advice here; post up some pictures of those strut bar/radiator brackets so we can figure out if they are indeed bent out of whack.
Just going to assume they are bent. Ordered new ones to hopefully fix the issue. Won’t get them until after Xmas. Thanks everyone! I’ll update the results when I can.
Thanks
for the help in the thread about the brackets... it looked like mine had some slight bends and once I removed them and installed it with new brackets it went in immediately.
The N-flo and condenser are also very close! I did do the bracket flip too.
Only weird issue I found was that silicone mishimoto hoses for the bottom aren’t an exact fit...? They are a little bit longer than the factory ones and I had to really make sure not to kink it.
Car now has new coolant in it and the burping process begins...
If the hose is a little long you may just need to trim it. Use a long razor knife and put a hose clamp around the end you want to cut, saw along the hose clamp using it as a guide. You'll get a clean straight cut.
Glad you got it in! It doesn't take much for those brackets to be wonky.
One thing that i dont think you mentioned, is that the OEM radiator has foam on the sides, to stop air flowing around the radiator. I bought some soft but dense foam to make sure as much air as possible go where it should.
This is if you dont have any intake mods who pull air from this location.
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