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Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 11:44 AM

Koyo Installation Tips
 
For years I have seen threads about Koyo install issues. We have been installing them for 15+ years without any issues, so I figured we would snap a few pics of the most recent installation and the things we do to make for a pain free installation.

For the point of this thread we are going to assume the installer has the capabilities required to removed and install a stock radiator.

Lay both radiators next to each other.

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Install the fans, rubber grommets and brackets from the original radiator on the Koyo, everything mounts exactly the same way. DO NOT MOUNT THE BRACKETS UPSIDE DOWN, this is bad information that has been handed out on this forum for over a decade. Inspect the fan motors, to insure they spin freely and that the blade assemblies are not broken. Do not try to glue them back together.

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Next that car needs to be prepared for the installation. This is the bracket that causes the largest problem, it is the right side upper A/C condenser bracket. If you have removed your A/C then skip ahead.

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This bracket needs to be flipped over or removed. Once it is flipped over it allows the radiator to drop right in.

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Next both the radiator bottom supports need to be bent slightly to accommodate the thicker radiator.


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Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 11:45 AM

The brackets also need to be inspected for damage, we have seen countless bent brackets. As you can see this will raise the radiator, causing fitment issues. The good news is they are inexpensive from Mazda.


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Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 11:49 AM

Now the new Koyo will drop in.


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Remember to bend the low tabs back up.

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This is a great time to install new hoses and an upgraded AST. Now just put the car back together and fill with coolant. Remember to burp the system properly.

Brody8877 11-04-16 12:04 PM

:icon_tup: This should be sticky

Narfle 11-04-16 12:44 PM

Awesome post, thank you! The pictures of the ac bracket help make it very clear.

Zepticon 11-04-16 01:03 PM

Awesome! But i am pretty sure i didnt need to turn the bracket around on mine :) But this guide should be sticky!

Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 01:06 PM

^ only way it would go in without altering/removing the bracket is to damage the side of the radiator, which is something I prefer not to do when it only takes 5 minutes extra to install correctly.

IRPerformance 11-04-16 01:07 PM

Good info. I'll add that I usually get rid of the stock rubber lord mounts. This will allow the radiator to drop down even further and helps fitment if you have a stock intake and intercooler.

Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 01:11 PM

^ I never remove them and have not had any problems with installation of stock or aftermarket SMICs. The rubber mounts prevent premature wear.

kensin 11-04-16 01:24 PM

write up on fluidyne please !! this is good thread

FührerTüner 11-04-16 01:39 PM

:icon_tup:Thanks!:icon_tup:

jsemerica 11-04-16 05:56 PM

Thanks for doing this :icon_tup: I might take a look at my fluidyne and see if I need to adjust anything futher. It's hard mounted without the rubber isolator bushings and the upper radiator hose still seems to push up on the stock intake.

Brody8877 11-04-16 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by kensin (Post 12121421)
write up on fluidyne please !! this is good thread

Fluidyne is straight drop in, no need to remove OEM radiator bracket or bend anything.

Banzai-Racing 11-04-16 06:48 PM

Fluidyne runs a minimum of 10F hotter, with an FMIC we see 20F

Remove them all the time

Moe Greene 11-05-16 02:23 AM

How does the Koyo compare to the Mishimoto radiator in terms of fitment and cooling.

IRPerformance 11-10-16 03:18 PM

The Koyo radiator is nearly twice as thick as the Mishimito. Mishimoto is easier to fit but often the mounting holes for the fans are often off and need to be drilled out. The bypass hose nipple is also the wrong size requiring an reducer. Mishimoto isn't known for quality. There is always some issue, though usually minor, that needs to be corrected.

FD3S_wanted 11-12-16 05:00 PM

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Great info. Thanks.

I can't see from the pics if you have cut or bend the little tab (see picture) on the bracket? On my car I can't get the right angle with it.

gracer7-rx7 11-13-16 12:39 AM

Just added to the FAQ. Thanks Banzai.

+1 on Mishimoto sucking

jonahau 11-14-16 07:25 PM

Nice! Installed a Koyo Nflow 2 months ago in my 02 FD3S with no issues and perfect fitment!

Zepticon 11-18-16 07:14 AM

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One thing that i dont think you mentioned, is that the OEM radiator has foam on the sides, to stop air flowing around the radiator. I bought some soft but dense foam to make sure as much air as possible go where it should.

This is if you dont have any intake mods who pull air from this location.

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rotary#10 11-23-16 01:34 PM

Great info. Now I have to go back and redo my radiator a 3rd time. Lol.

7-XR 11-23-16 04:19 PM

I had some rubbing issues with Koyo radiator and my Greddy FMIC piping. The Greddy brackets are meant for the stock rad which is smaller. To address this i could have a made some new brackets to accommodate the bigger Koyo rad and try to drop it lower down. Instead I took the intercooler pipe it was rubbing against to the vise and a big hammer and made a few nonchalant dents in the right spots. The goal is to not crack or perforate the pipe, so take your time.
GL!

dgeesaman 11-26-16 06:26 AM

Outstanding, thanks. I have a Koyo sitting here ready to replace a leaking Fluidyne (not the Fluidyne's fault) and aside from being busy I've been noodling over how to make it fit with my stock airbox/Blitz SMIC/AC condenser. This thread confirms it's good to be a procrastinator sometimes.

I think between these tips and the possibility of adding spacers to the AC condenser, I should have things in order. For those that have lowered their assembly, did you have issues with the stock undertray pressing on things?

12abridgeport 02-24-19 05:49 PM

My radiator measured 58mm wide and I ran into the problem of it not going down far enough onto the mounting bolts because the mounting bracket on the rad is hitting the mounting bracket that's on the car.

I can see why some people turn those tabs upside down but that would prob raise the radiator and my stock plastics won't fit back up.

I'm just going to take the mounting brackets to work tomorrow and put them in the vertical band saw. It should clear after I take some metal out of them.

Just thought giving some heads up to other people with thicker cores. I believe other cores measure out around 48-53mm or so.

TheFD 10-09-20 09:12 PM

In Need Of part numbers
 
anyone have the part number for the two mounting brackets? Car came with a very old Fludyne Rad that has the brackets built in so I’m bracketless.

thank you




Originally Posted by Zepticon (Post 12125214)
One thing that i dont think you mentioned, is that the OEM radiator has foam on the sides, to stop air flowing around the radiator. I bought some soft but dense foam to make sure as much air as possible go where it should.

This is if you dont have any intake mods who pull air from this location.

Attachment 607221
Attachment 607222



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