Just purchased 3rd gen roller, need to source motor
12-14-13, 01:01 AM
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Just purchased 3rd gen roller, need to source motor
What engine options do I have for the 3rd gen roller I just purchased. This is in regards to finding a 13B-REW, not performing a swap. If I recall, Malloy Mazda wants over 4k for a Reman without a core exchange. Are there any other cheaper options ? Here in Florida I see importers with supposedly JDM 13B TT motors and transmissions for less than 3k although I have heard plenty of horror stories about JDM importers. Any advise would be appreciated.
12-14-13, 01:17 AM
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A reman is a great way to go off you have a core. If your car doesn't have a motor I'd either wait for a used pullout from someone doing a swap or buy a Jdm motor. There are so many parts you will need besides just a reman block. Wiring, turbos, coils rats nest manifolds injection...
12-14-13, 01:26 AM
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I want to say the price for a Reman with a core exchange is 3500 but like you mentioned, I need everything that goes with the motor and I am almost positive that Malloy supplies the engine block only. Should I take my chances with an importer or local seller and if all else fails, prepare for a rebuild or is there another way?
12-14-13, 10:09 AM
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Contact Addicted Performance Unlimited in East TN. They could build you a full long block with warranty. Won't be under $3500.00 but might as well go ahead and get what you want. They will build it with whatever apex seals you want and can powder coat or polish all the externals as well. I used to offer this desk back in the day but I just don't have the time anymore.
The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
12-14-13, 10:57 AM
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When you say "roller", how much is missing? Roller means different things to different people. 
If you are missing just the engine, getting a reman from Malloy is a good option. If you are missing the drivetrain (engine + transmission), I would look at getting a JDM drivetrain with having the block rebuilt before installing.
Are you also missing the wiring/emissions harness?
If you are missing just the engine, getting a reman from Malloy is a good option. If you are missing the drivetrain (engine + transmission), I would look at getting a JDM drivetrain with having the block rebuilt before installing.
Are you also missing the wiring/emissions harness?
12-14-13, 01:44 PM
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Car was purchased minus the engine, transmission and drive shaft so it seems that my best bet would be to start off would an imported motor, plan for the rebuild and piece the rest together. Thanks for the help so far. Here is a pic of the engine bay.
12-14-13, 02:33 PM
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I just purchased a FD with extremely low miles and great compression. I'll be picking it up next week and yanking the engine/tranny for a swap (haven't decided on what yet). I know the tranny grinds a little in 5th but besides that it is great.
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12-14-13, 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the offer but I was just trying to determine what my options were regarding getting my roller running. My reason for this posting was a local craigslist ad for a 13B-REW with transmission for around 1500. While not ready to purchase just yet, I do see these ads pop up from time to time and it seems in my case this is a viable option.
12-15-13, 10:59 PM
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Hi I was in the same boat as you basically it is like the Lotto if you buy your engine on ebay or craigslist it is like a 50% chance that the engine will be good in my opinion I would buy some new or like new housings and then get irons and rotating assembly and put the engine together your self or pay someone who knows what they are doing. If you buy all your parts your self you will know if you have good housing and rotating assembly etc.
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12-16-13, 07:06 AM
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Contact Addicted Performance Unlimited in East TN. They could build you a full long block with warranty. Won't be under $3500.00 but might as well go ahead and get what you want. They will build it with whatever apex seals you want and can powder coat or polish all the externals as well. I used to offer this desk back in the day but I just don't have the time anymore.
The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
12-16-13, 04:26 PM
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Roller was 3500 with over 100k miles. Was reading your thread and from what I understand most rollers go for between 3500 to around 6k depending on condition. Your location in Hawaii and the engine bay being completely stripped could be a problem but as long as the body is straight 2k sounds reasonable.
12-16-13, 04:57 PM
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It looks like it could use a bit of de ricing but it doesn't seem to be in too bad. If I were you I would either buy the malloy engine or shop around for a motor that has good compression and still have it rebuilt. A rebuild on a motor that only needs seals gaskets etc. is a lot more affordable than rebuilding something that needs housings/rotors. There's a shop down here that will compression test the motor for you in person before you buy it.
12-16-13, 06:59 PM
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Ive got a rebuild with 7k on it. good compression (110psi warm). set up for non sequential (you would n eed a PFC or sequential turbos). has no harness but everything else. PM me if you are interested
12-17-13, 12:17 AM
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Roller was 3500 with over 100k miles. Was reading your thread and from what I understand most rollers go for between 3500 to around 6k depending on condition. Your location in Hawaii and the engine bay being completely stripped could be a problem but as long as the body is straight 2k sounds reasonable.
Rmagic your car also looks like a great starting point for what you paid! Good luck to you brother...I'll keep my eyes on this thread. I was actually thinking about going the Ebay JDM route. I spoke to a guy today that sells the whole engine swaps. He told me they check the compression on each face of the rotor on both of them. Provides a video of the actual compression test if interested.
If they fall below 90psi on any face he sells the swap for a major discount as a "need rebuild sort of affair". Hit up some of those guys on ebay you may be able to find a great swap for a good price!
Good Luck
12-17-13, 07:25 AM
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Yea guys seems like a fair start to get back in a FD. Single turbo is also a good idea as well.
Rmagic your car also looks like a great starting point for what you paid! Good luck to you brother...I'll keep my eyes on this thread. I was actually thinking about going the Ebay JDM route. I spoke to a guy today that sells the whole engine swaps. He told me they check the compression on each face of the rotor on both of them. Provides a video of the actual compression test if interested.
If they fall below 90psi on any face he sells the swap for a major discount as a "need rebuild sort of affair". Hit up some of those guys on ebay you may be able to find a great swap for a good price!
Good Luck
Rmagic your car also looks like a great starting point for what you paid! Good luck to you brother...I'll keep my eyes on this thread. I was actually thinking about going the Ebay JDM route. I spoke to a guy today that sells the whole engine swaps. He told me they check the compression on each face of the rotor on both of them. Provides a video of the actual compression test if interested.
If they fall below 90psi on any face he sells the swap for a major discount as a "need rebuild sort of affair". Hit up some of those guys on ebay you may be able to find a great swap for a good price!
Good Luck
12-20-13, 07:53 PM
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you should find PLETNY of JDM motors down in florida, and lots of rotary shops too.
its going to be hard to find the complete package, its going to take some time.
but honestly now is the best time to build it like you want it. The most expensive part is building it twice.
its going to be hard to find the complete package, its going to take some time.
but honestly now is the best time to build it like you want it. The most expensive part is building it twice.