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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 01:01 AM
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Just purchased 3rd gen roller, need to source motor

What engine options do I have for the 3rd gen roller I just purchased. This is in regards to finding a 13B-REW, not performing a swap. If I recall, Malloy Mazda wants over 4k for a Reman without a core exchange. Are there any other cheaper options ? Here in Florida I see importers with supposedly JDM 13B TT motors and transmissions for less than 3k although I have heard plenty of horror stories about JDM importers. Any advise would be appreciated.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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A reman is a great way to go off you have a core. If your car doesn't have a motor I'd either wait for a used pullout from someone doing a swap or buy a Jdm motor. There are so many parts you will need besides just a reman block. Wiring, turbos, coils rats nest manifolds injection...
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 01:26 AM
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I want to say the price for a Reman with a core exchange is 3500 but like you mentioned, I need everything that goes with the motor and I am almost positive that Malloy supplies the engine block only. Should I take my chances with an importer or local seller and if all else fails, prepare for a rebuild or is there another way?
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Contact Addicted Performance Unlimited in East TN. They could build you a full long block with warranty. Won't be under $3500.00 but might as well go ahead and get what you want. They will build it with whatever apex seals you want and can powder coat or polish all the externals as well. I used to offer this desk back in the day but I just don't have the time anymore.

The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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When you say "roller", how much is missing? Roller means different things to different people.

If you are missing just the engine, getting a reman from Malloy is a good option. If you are missing the drivetrain (engine + transmission), I would look at getting a JDM drivetrain with having the block rebuilt before installing.

Are you also missing the wiring/emissions harness?
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Car was purchased minus the engine, transmission and drive shaft so it seems that my best bet would be to start off would an imported motor, plan for the rebuild and piece the rest together. Thanks for the help so far. Here is a pic of the engine bay.

Just purchased 3rd gen roller, need to source motor-9qckcdf.jpg
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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I just purchased a FD with extremely low miles and great compression. I'll be picking it up next week and yanking the engine/tranny for a swap (haven't decided on what yet). I know the tranny grinds a little in 5th but besides that it is great.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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I'll be picking it up next week and yanking the engine/tranny for a swap (haven't decided on what yet). I know the tranny grinds a little in 5th but besides that it is great.
Thanks for the offer but I was just trying to determine what my options were regarding getting my roller running. My reason for this posting was a local craigslist ad for a 13B-REW with transmission for around 1500. While not ready to purchase just yet, I do see these ads pop up from time to time and it seems in my case this is a viable option.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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That's cool. I would never buy a used engine unless it was in a running car or your best friend is selling it to you.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 10:59 PM
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Hi I was in the same boat as you basically it is like the Lotto if you buy your engine on ebay or craigslist it is like a 50% chance that the engine will be good in my opinion I would buy some new or like new housings and then get irons and rotating assembly and put the engine together your self or pay someone who knows what they are doing. If you buy all your parts your self you will know if you have good housing and rotating assembly etc.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 03:14 AM
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How much did you pay for your rolling chassis?

I may be purchasing a rolling shell soon as well and would be interested in the direction your gonna go with this.
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Originally Posted by djseven
Contact Addicted Performance Unlimited in East TN. They could build you a full long block with warranty. Won't be under $3500.00 but might as well go ahead and get what you want. They will build it with whatever apex seals you want and can powder coat or polish all the externals as well. I used to offer this desk back in the day but I just don't have the time anymore.

The JDM swaps are a roll of the dice. May get lucky, may not. The downside with most of the jspec swaps is you will likely need a different wiring harness which is about $900.00 from Mazda for a new one.
save up and do this .. that way you will have a reliable motor to start with . and not with the backwash of the PO who knows what happened to those JDM used motors even if hte compression is right you dont know if the oil , water gaskets are good .
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phunny
I just purchased a FD with extremely low miles and great compression. I'll be picking it up next week and yanking the engine/tranny for a swap (haven't decided on what yet). I know the tranny grinds a little in 5th but besides that it is great.
This wouldn't happen to be the same phunny from dsm tuners would it? Small world :P.
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Do you have more pics of the rest of the car?
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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save up and do this .. that way you will have a reliable motor to start with . and not with the backwash of the PO who knows what happened to those JDM used motors even if hte compression is right you don't know if the oil , water gaskets are good .
Quoted for truth. I do not plan on installing an engine that has not been torn down and properly rebuilt even if it costs more. Here are some more pics of the car. Body kit will be getting removed.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Hi I payed 4k for my r1 rx7 it has 70k original miles and it is in almost mint condition. But it had no engine or transmission.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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How much did you pay for your rolling chassis?

I may be purchasing a rolling shell soon as well and would be interested in the direction your gonna go with this.
Roller was 3500 with over 100k miles. Was reading your thread and from what I understand most rollers go for between 3500 to around 6k depending on condition. Your location in Hawaii and the engine bay being completely stripped could be a problem but as long as the body is straight 2k sounds reasonable.
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In my opinion if you can get the rx7 for 2k and do a single turbo swap that is worth it to me.
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It looks like it could use a bit of de ricing but it doesn't seem to be in too bad. If I were you I would either buy the malloy engine or shop around for a motor that has good compression and still have it rebuilt. A rebuild on a motor that only needs seals gaskets etc. is a lot more affordable than rebuilding something that needs housings/rotors. There's a shop down here that will compression test the motor for you in person before you buy it.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Ive got a rebuild with 7k on it. good compression (110psi warm). set up for non sequential (you would n eed a PFC or sequential turbos). has no harness but everything else. PM me if you are interested
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Roller was 3500 with over 100k miles. Was reading your thread and from what I understand most rollers go for between 3500 to around 6k depending on condition. Your location in Hawaii and the engine bay being completely stripped could be a problem but as long as the body is straight 2k sounds reasonable.
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In my opinion if you can get the rx7 for 2k and do a single turbo swap that is worth it to me.
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Yea guys seems like a fair start to get back in a FD. Single turbo is also a good idea as well.

Rmagic your car also looks like a great starting point for what you paid! Good luck to you brother...I'll keep my eyes on this thread. I was actually thinking about going the Ebay JDM route. I spoke to a guy today that sells the whole engine swaps. He told me they check the compression on each face of the rotor on both of them. Provides a video of the actual compression test if interested.

If they fall below 90psi on any face he sells the swap for a major discount as a "need rebuild sort of affair". Hit up some of those guys on ebay you may be able to find a great swap for a good price!

Good Luck
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by boostd2rtr
Yea guys seems like a fair start to get back in a FD. Single turbo is also a good idea as well.

Rmagic your car also looks like a great starting point for what you paid! Good luck to you brother...I'll keep my eyes on this thread. I was actually thinking about going the Ebay JDM route. I spoke to a guy today that sells the whole engine swaps. He told me they check the compression on each face of the rotor on both of them. Provides a video of the actual compression test if interested.

If they fall below 90psi on any face he sells the swap for a major discount as a "need rebuild sort of affair". Hit up some of those guys on ebay you may be able to find a great swap for a good price!

Good Luck
I know you're in Hawaii and your options are limited , and I do hope things go well . But sofar i'm 2 for 2 blown engines from JDM long blocks
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Damn that isn't good...

You going to rebuild the engine yourself?
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you should find PLETNY of JDM motors down in florida, and lots of rotary shops too.

its going to be hard to find the complete package, its going to take some time.

but honestly now is the best time to build it like you want it. The most expensive part is building it twice.
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