Kevin T. Wyum

Well I suppose now is as good a time as any to mention some relevant things. The M2 Medium and
Race/Large intercooler is now back to being the ASP Racing Medium and Race/Large IC. That
means I'll be taking back over the production of both IC's effective immediately. They may go back
to M2 sometime in the future but there are no current plans for that. I do have an agreement with
Jason of the RX7 Store so all IC's will go through him. The delays should go away with this change
after an initial stocking period. I'm in the process of gearing everything back up as well as setting up a
new shop area for the fabrication portions. As for fitment issues if there are any they will be
addressed and corrected. So if you're waiting on one from Jason right now don't fret, he'll be getting
his supply of kits shortly so the delays are not his fault. He actively has been pushing to fix the delays.


Kevin T. Wyum

Kevin T. Wyum

Ick sorry about the formatting. I just cut and pasted it from an email post I made : ( My bad.

turbojeff

iTrader: (30)

I PM'd you Kevin.

Jeff

Brentis

How about a group buy to get you back in the swing of things?

Kevin T. Wyum

Heh, while normally I wouldn't argue against it that's already happening with Jason. He's got a bunch ordered already that I'm getting the raw materials for now. You'd have to talk to Jason about any group buy circumstance but his margin is pretty tight as it is and I can't imagine why he'd want to make it worse, but I can't speak for him. If he want's to do it I'll make them as he needs.

Kevin T. Wyum

BoostedRex

Hey Kevin, do you have much experience making frount mounts? I'm looking at the HKS FMIC, but if I could get a custom job with the kind of quality that people expect from you and/or M2 then I'd be interested. Thanx.

Zach

Kevin T. Wyum

I'd really rather not get into anything new just yet. I'd like to make sure the Medium and Large are done as well as they can be and in a timely manner before I become overwhelmed with more stuff. The other part of that equation is that I really don't like front mounts period. I don't think they're the best solution for this car. Keep in mind the first Large IC was just me making it for my car and I obviously wanted the best for myself. If I thought front mounts were better I would have made one back then : )

Kevin T. Wyum

Kevin T. Wyum

Donovan

I have the M2 unit and the infamous crossover that rubs on the hood. I wonder if you have any plans to address this and If so can I purchase just the pipe from you once you get the prorders out?
Thanks,
Donovan

GsrSol

A few problems I have heard repeatedly are the crossover pipe rubbing the hood, duct not lining up right, the wait, and the price.

If you could drop the price you will get alot more orders. I can't see myself spending that much on an i/c no matter how good it is and I know others feel the same way.

BoostedRex

What's the going price for the large/race sized SMIC??

reza

Would the large SMIC fit with CWR/M2 intake and Mini Battery Kit? And with proper ducting?

I saw a photo of large SMIC with Mini Batt, and M2 Intake, but the ducting is not placed correctly for it to fit.

Reza

GsrSol

Going price is about $1485 plus the cost of a Greddy elbow ($125).

Kevin T. Wyum

Unfortunately I don't see the price coming down at all. Unless I change the design to make it much cheaper to manufacture there's no real room to reduce price. Keep in mind Jason has to make some profit as well for stocking $10,000+ in product so people can get them overnight when things are up to speed. It is $15 less than I used to charge in 1997 and there wasn't a distributor floating stock back then either. It's possible I may make some tweaks to things to improve one or both IC's now that I'll be doing this again. Anyway we'll see. First things first I need to get the wheels turning to make Jasons customers happy : ).

Kevin T. Wyum

SleepR1

Kevin,

Glad you're back in the IC business! I suppose this is why M2's so back-logged, huh?

BNA_ELLIS

Kevin thats fantastic news. Will the design be exactly the same as it currently is, or will their be a little bit of tweaking here and there. Did you ever offically do a fan with these ?? Living London I sit in quite a bit of traffic sometimes, and my stock as you can imagine heat soaks
like a black leather seat sitting in the sun. I am not a fan of the front mounts either, but I would like to eliminate heat soak. I know your current plans are to get alot of units out to jason and basically get the ball rolling again. But it would also be nice and I think a good opportunity to eleviate some of the issues many m2 intercooler owners have. I.E pipes rubbing on the hood, I think 2-3 mm difference in the manufacturing of these, along with slight redesign of the duct so to eliminate any current issues with alingment, and also the opening of the duct to allow more air to flow through it. I wouldn't tell you how to do your job, as you obviously know what you are doing better than myself, so please do not take this as a winge mail, or any form of criticism. It's just that obviously these intercoolers are by far the most popular in the U.S.A
anyway as far as stock mount is concerned. I just think that with looking at posts on this and other forums that with a little bit of attention to customer needs, which is basically why you are doing what your doing anyway, ASP intercoolers can be better than ever before. If you had been making them all along. I probably would not of sent this mail, but the fact that you are just about to start the re-manufacture of these items afresh, i just thought it might be a more appropriate time to make this suggestion.

Kind Regards

Brian Ellis

Kevin T. Wyum

I appreciate the responses. All comments are of course welcome. This isn't about what I want. It's about what the customer wants. If things need to be changed within reason to make people happy then by all means that is what will be done. Be aware of the old saying, you can't please all of the people all of the time. It's very true. Although there's another one I really like as well. You get what you pay for. : ). I'll try to eliminate the rubbing issue on the first batch obviously. Please remember though that some of these are user error issues, people rotating the pipes incorrectly which the existing tight tollerances don't allow for etc. I can't vouch for the tubing etc. though since I haven't been making it for the last couple years. The duct is a local person of mine though that has been doing it all along which I can't beleive has any errors. I'll have to take a look at the duct.

I can't really comment about M2 at this time.

Anyway time to nap.

Kevin T. Wyum

Kevin T. Wyum

It's nice to see all the comments and sorry I didn't reply to everyones questions. Tell ya what. If you have a question or idea/suggestion about the ICs you can always ask Jason or Email me directly at aspi@winternet.com or KTWyum@ASPScreening.com

rynberg

Kevin,

It's great to hear that you're getting back into the I/C business. Your pride in the product is obvious and there's too little of that these days. You'll be filling my order for one next spring.

Thanks!

redrotorR1

Kevin,

I'm curious to what your turnaround time is projected at. I am pricing out all the 'ASP' modifications and your/M2's Medium SMIC is on the list. How long until Jason starts building inventory? Anxiously waiting ....

Don

ttpowerd

I should have waited then I got one of the older large one and there are some serious fitment issues. Thanks for taking it on to fix them.

ech

Should people take pictures of their fitment issues and post them or mail them to Kevin?

It seems to me that not every engine sits in *exactly* the same position, and that with all the different radiotor mods, etc. the ducts can fit differnetly as well. Then the engine goes and moves around while under driving conditions.

It would be great if the parts didn't relly on a perfect setup, and perfict instalation. - my 2 cents. It would also be cool if the end-tanks were cast with integrated pipes, for less connections (up to 4 cents), and the duct was just a little smaller than the face of the IC, so things could slide around without gapping. - there, 6 cents.

apneablue

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Hi Kevin,

glad to see you're back in business .

I have an M2/ASP large that I bought used and (with Dave at KDR's help) was able to get it to fit with the airpump and the AST, with no rubbing under the strut tower bar.

I have an issue with the duct, however--it doesn't line up flush with the core (driver's side maybe 1/4 inch too high). I've tried many positions with no success. Also, is there any way to make the opening of the duct longer? I've seen one fabricated in such a manner.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very satisfied with the product and know it's impossible to make a perfect fit with all the different engine bay setups .

take care,
Rich

Import Convert

Would it be possible to make an inlet tube for the Large IC for those who have gotten rid of their air pump? I will be getting rid of mine shortly and I like the Large IC, but all the piping I have seen so far has rubbed the hood. Obviously if the air pump was not there it wouldnt be an issue.

Kevin T. Wyum

Okay I'll try to respond to most of the questions this time.

Time frame for Jason building up stock? He's got a good sized order placed already. If all of those are spoken for I don't know. They're all medium IC's. My impression was that he intends to keep a stock on them since he apparently lost a lot of orders from just not being able to get the IC's in the past. Something I obviously intend to correct. The first batch he ordered should be shipped from me within 2 weeks.

As for sending pictures of fitment issues. Yes, please do. I normally wouldn't expect things to be that easy and have to guess based on a verbal description : ) Make sure to mention what's been done to the car though.

As for Traffic in London and a fan. Heh I know it well. I lived in St. Johns Wood for 4 years : ). The fan has never been a part of the kit but I told people which ones fit and where to buy them cheap etc. Nothing has changed with that. If you want a fan on it there are a number of suppliers like Jegs, Summit etc. that carry ideal ones.

As for changes being made to the ICs. Don't expect anything right away. The first priority for me is to make sure the current design fit issues are taken care of and people are getting the product they ordered and that they're happy with it. Like everything else though with time there will be improvements. I suppose it's like each new model year of car, they improve a little here and there.

For the time being I'll be keeping 4 connection points with the tubing. Long cast tubing is an incredible pain in the *** to install if I forgot to mention that. Especially when things are designed to take up every available inch. It also allows for more slop as you mentioned wanting.

As for ducts not fitting correctly. Is anyone saying they don't fit right with the stock radiator? If you're talking about with aftermarket radiators I'm sorry there's nothing I can do short of making an entirely new duct just for that radiator if they didn't maintain the same upper dimensions of the OEM radiator. That is the primary mold point of the ducts, the gap from frame and top of the radiator. There's no way to make it fit tightly with others.

If the duct isn't lining up right something is in the way. Possibly a bolt head sitting the IC at the wrong angle or the IC being hung up on plastic tabs in the nose area.

There is a second part to the IC, a little extension scoop I used to normally send with them that most people tossed. Is that what you're thinking of for making the duct longer?

As for hoses slipping off I'm a little concerned about this comment. Does the tubing not have formed beads on all the ends where the clamps and hose go over? There should be an actual raised edge that once the clamp is tightened on the other side it can't come off. I don't see the ones manufactured right now so if someone can tell me about that I'd appreciate it.

As for the tubing for the air pump being removed. That will actually be the standard pipe from now on. The IC's were always intended to be used without the Air Pumps. I think that other pipe was added after the fact for people the wanted it badly. I'm talking to Jeff about possibly making a cast tube for those that want to keep the airpump since there's no way to make it quite right with tubing around the airpump.

Anyway I think that's all the questions I noticed for now : ). Glad to see people are still excited about these cars.

Kevin T. Wyum