SayNoToPistons

ive been wanting a RX7 FD since i was ten. now im considering about buying one with the next 2-3 years. im looking for a stock 93 manual FD.i can parctice driving a manual on my cousins civiv junky. . how hard is it to maintain such a nice special car? i know i should change the oil every 2000 at most. i dont plan on driving this as a daily, its going to be maybe a weekend fun car. any suggestions? and the problem is, im only 14 now, i hardly know much about cars otehr than changing the fuilds, detailing, and other basic stuff. i dont know how to even get into a car. i have time to learn though.

this isnt a joke. i know that im still young but all i think about lately is the rx7 fd!! its going crazy.

edit: dont plan on modding it either until i get used to the car and know more things about it internaly (wont have enough money to mod it anyways, i might get the reliability mods that i heard of though).

Skeltah

Thats it.. I'm selling my car.

turbodrx7

iTrader: (43)

^^^NO! hes an rx7 dreamer. I first saw an FD when i was 15 and wanted one every day after i saw that. Save up, work hard. Get the car and take care of it. Relize its power and power over you. I learned it the easy but hard way. Spun it off the road after hitting the gas to early threw a turn into a field. Never again did i push the car to more than i knew would mess with me. You live and learn. Just be carful with it.

Clin10

I am also thinking of buying one, another reason why I registered here. I have one more year to my permit (I'm 15) but I have been driving for a while NEway (opps, shouldn't have said that) and I have always wanted a car with a certain scene and I love almost every car equally, but the FD I found caught my eye and I looked into them intensely eversince I was 11 years old and kept it in my favorites list. I have almost 2 pages in my AOL favorites list about this car. this car is amazing and for my needs it is practical. does anyone know how good this car is on a Road Course?
Thnaks in Advance, Clin10

Skeltah

Save your money. Buy a Civic.

CantGoStraight

You know you have time to start buying all the parts you need one at a time and not only would you have it assembled by the time you start driving .....but you'd know how it's put together, what condition it's in and how it all work's.....I'd say that's a good plan.

Clin10

If I wanted a Civic, how come I registered here

Kento

Spoolin'

Let me guess,,,, you've wanted one ever since you saw the "Fast and the Rediculous" 4 years ago when you were umm,,,, 10.

Are you working out at the gym too lol......

Mike

Mestre

"Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block, and replace the piston rings you fried! Ask any racer, any real racer, it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."

Clin10

oh trust me, The Fast and the Furious is the most cheapest movie. I only watched the 1st one 1 time and the 2nd one 1 time but 6 other times beyond my will with 2F2F from my friend who wants to do street racing, which I will never do at all. I will only see if I can do Legit Road Course or Autocross. I will get a rebuild if I do get a FD but will try to keep the stock Turbos, I don't think that I will go with the Single Turbo conversion. And just becuase I may seem young, I do know about cars and racing (I once did speed in my dad's Altima GXE [KA24DE powered, very torquey 4 cylinder]and that is the most powerful car I can drive at the moment)all around a parking lot in a autocross cone setup he did for me, so I sort of have a feel for it. It'll just be maybe 105HP more and RWD. I will take it easy and one step at a time before I actually run a road course.

CourageOO7

Helo mY Nam is GeOrGe an I m 4 yeers old. I wuld lik 2 bi a FD wen I turn 16. R they gewd kars? Ma daddy has a fast honda...is it faster?

BLKTOPTRVL

So, some kid likes the car and all you can think to answer his questions is ridiclue? What are most of you, 4 or 5 years older than he is?

To answer your questions, here is my opinion of what you would need to purchase a car like a RX7 FD.

at your age, you should set aside...

1. $10,000 - $15,000 to buy a decent example
2. $7,000 to rebuild the engine/turbos within the first year. You may not need it if lucky.
3. $5,000 a year for insurance
4. $4000 per year for the minor repair problems that will likely occur
5. $1,000 in court costs for the first year

At least: 20K DId I miss anything?

I know I did not include the cost of financing the car itself... You may not need that if you are independently wealthy.

Clin10

thanks for posting that BLKTOPTRVL, I am planning on paying off a FD. I also know that as a minor my insurance is going to be sky high, and I will keep it immaculate and try to keep the engine running for as long as it can. Also, my grandfather and uncles who used to work for GM also don't want me to get a RX, but they want me to get a DHS or a STS, but those are too big for me and insurance will be higher on those cars than the FD for sure. so I am trying to settle on this car or a MR2 Mkii Turbo ('91 or '92), both great cars in their own right IMO.

usma_2006

iTrader: (3)

There's nothing wrong with dreaming about a car... I've wanted an RX7 since I was 14 and it took me until I was 21 to get it. First off, just because you find a $12-15k rx7 doesn't mean that's all it'll cost you, and I doubt you'll be able to afford it in high school unless your parents spoil you. Also, the rx7 is simply too much car for someone with no driving experience (and driving a 105 hp car in a parking doesn't count, sorry). Between getting my license at 16 and buying my rx7 at 21, I drove dozens of car, both FWD and RWD at many different stages of power. I had a '91 Mazda Protege 5-speed back in high school that I had fun doing some light modification and practicing with a stick; it was cheap to fix, got great gas mileage, was extremely reliable, and it was still fun to drive.

Even with all the experience I had I still managed to total my first rx7 because I was stupid.

I know it sucks and you hate to hear it, because I hated to hear it when I was your age too, but you'll be so much happier if you wait. Get a civic or a protege or something similar that you can have fun with, but won't break the bank while you're in high school. When you finally do get your rx7, it'll be well worth it. I just installed a PFC in mine yesterday, took the top off and went cruising, and I could barely contain my excitement the entire time...

Don't worry, bro, your time will come.

Clin10

I was stating how the RX-7 has 255HP stock and the 1st Gen Altima has 150HP, and 255-150=105, so the car is farely powerful of its time it it naturally understeers but at low RPM's and the shift lock, I can get the back out a bit at around 30-47mph in the Altima. My mom won't let me do it in her Tracker LT 2.5 V6 though. and my uncle only let me drive his Camaro SS (he Supercharged it 2 weeks before I drove it...he sold it last year, I miss that car) 2 times when I was 12. I just didn't want to state all of this due to illegal problems.

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

"or a MR2 Mkii Turbo ('91 or '92)"

I think the MR2 is very wise choice. Learn to drive this well (autox) and don't do anything stupid on the roads with it, and then buy the FD. They're both a blast to drive. As conservative as I am / was, I'm still very glad I didn't get this before I had a few years of driving and $$ under my belt. Seriously, $5k/year for insurance (and you're in NJ, so make sure they'll even insure you at all) is absolutely ludicrous. Did you know that if you kept your insurance under $2k, and you put that 3k into a Roth IRA for 3 years, you could have your retirement well secured. Or have a down payment on your first house (which will have a garage so you can store the FD safely and work on it), or buy a really nice diamond ring and honeymoon, or.... It happens sooner than you think.

Dave

Clin10

just as I said in later posts, I am not the kind to show off in the streets. even in a parking lot I see these stupid college kids messing with kids like me learning to drive and they try to tailgate. one time they did it to me and I was in my dad's GXE (pretty good car, I love that engine. If turbocharged, it can run high boost due to it being a cast iron block) and I floored it and backed off quickly to push the back end out a bit and turned down a parking isle (I think I got that car's handling down now, lol) and I like the MR2 due to it basically set up like a F1, with the Midengine Rear Wheel Drive Setup. but I will go rotor before I hit 25 years old for sure becuase I like that rough idle that they have, the good power/weight ratio, and good power out the factory. plus some kids (seniors also) think that the RX-7 is a slow economy car due to me telling them that is a dual rotor 1.3L Twin Turbo engine. but I think I will just settle for a FC or MR2 for my 1st. thanks for the help dgeesaman and BLKTOPTRVL.

rotorhead333

I think if you are wanting to purchase an RX7 start with a FB or FC, learn how to fix it and appreciate what you have and what it takes to maintain a rotary. Purchasing an FD for a first car unless you have extensive knowledge, experience and money to work on them will ultimately be your demise. I've owned many RX7s and my first one was an FB, work your way up. You have to crawl first before you walk.

diesel power

Man I think I have to do the same thing. I wish that Mazda would come out with an RX9 so that we could put our cars behind us for all the kiddies that watched the "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it was called. What a shame to see such a great car become this.....

Clin10

good priced FC

^^^^^^^This is the FC I was looking at, It is a Turbo II. most of the FB's where I am are rusted, and a couple had no engines. I would take a FB but I need a sort of newer looking car and a car where the paople sitting in the back won't feel flat. so I think I will pt for a FC. the FD will still be forever in my head, lol. and if I do get this FC TII or any TII, I will stay Rotary and will not switch it out for a V8, lol . does the FC still have that rough idle, because I like hearing that in the videos and would like to drive and hear that at stop lights.

SWAT81

iTrader: (14)

if you actually had to pay that much I feel really sorry for you, you got terribly ripped off. There are other means of getting things donr cheaper.

$10,000 - $15,000 to buy a decent example
$2,400 shipped engine replacement from Ray or cheaper for a JDM (buy a reman)
$2,500 a year for insurance (Under adult's a.k.a dad or mom insurance)
$2,000 per year for the minor repair problems that will likely occur
$1,000 in court costs for the first year (wtf? I never had this problem on the first year, just be responsible and don't horse play)

Clin10

Why does each kid have to be F&TF fans, I was raised into a car family so I loved cars since I was born, I only watched both of those movies once (2F2F 6 more times due to my friend always watching it, if he comes here, flame him, and not me ) I respect the RX's and their drivers but after seeing how the other fourms act (Honduh's preferally....DUDE, I BURNED A SCOOTER TODAY!) and I hope that this doesn't act the same way. I am not a wanna-be street racer, I want to see if I can join the SCCA and do legit racing but I guess some people just skipped past that all of those times . Again, I don't mean to get in an argument about this, it is just really getting annoying hearing "The Fast and the Furious has brought in another street racer!" and people acting as if the car should only belong to the ones they know. If that is so, then whoever wants to buy all the FD's for sale, can. I just want an FD becuase of how good it's power/weight ratio and acceleration and grip (with the right tires) it has so I can make it in racing.

BLKTOPTRVL

No, I paid 15K for my 94 back in 2000. And I have had very few repairs, mostly maintenance. But I bought a 6 yo car with 59K miles, he is more than likely going to buy a 15 yo car with 100+ K miles. That is a big difference.

But I was not posting prices based on what I paid, but what a 14 yo should expect to pay. The differences between my list and yours are as follows:

7K for engine/turbos[DEALER/SPECIALTY SHOP PRICES] vs. your $2,400 [DIY - Then do it again if you didn't get it right.]. Again we are talking about a 14 yo kid and a father/family/friends who probably know NOTHING about a high-tech car like this. He may be able to get a crate engine, but the chances that he will be able to diagnose what happened to the original, and get it replaced the first time right are a long shot.

$2,500 For a fifteen yo in NJ? I think that is way off even under the parents policy. And you know that once that first ticket/accident comes (and you know it will), expect that to skyrocket. I may be wrong about that, but I also remember paying $2000 a year for LIABILITY ONLY - 25 years ago in Philidelphia. But then, I was responsible for all my own bills by from the time I was 18.

$2,000 for minor repairs? We are talking about a 15 yo car by the time he buys it. Parts will be harder to come by and the car, by then, will need far more repairs.

$1,000 in court costs... that part was partly a joke, but again, we are talking about a kid with a fast, fast car. Stuff WILL happen.

Quinn

iTrader: (5)

I understand where you are coming from, but you need to move up in increments. Alot of kids crash thier first car. Not all, but more than you think. I do agree with everyone on this board though for not having an FD as your first car. FD's do not handle or drive like an altima. You have fwd vs rwd, plus FD's steering is very sharp and unforgiving, its not your typical car. You really have to know what you are doing while driving an rx7. Right now as it stands, I am 20, and have been through a fair share of cars. 1st. 92 Civic CX (crashed). 2nd 92 Subaru Legay (Sold) 3rd 92 Mitsu 3000gt vr4 (Sold) 4th. 92 Civic vx w/Turbo GSR 253whp + 198 ft/ lbs tq (Sold) 5th 88 Subaru GL winter toilet (Frame rotted and broke lol) 6th 89 Civic SI 2nd winter toilet (Current) and 7th 93 FD Touring, it is being built right now by my good friend Kahren, we are aiming for around 500whp, it will be done in May. Believe me I am scared as hell to push this car. Its really going to take alot of adjusting to drive something with this power. I have been in 400whp rx7's with Kahren while tuning, but this going to be a big step up. So you kinda get the point. Work your way up, just by driving over the years, your driving skills increase soo much even withouth you knowing. My driving now compared to 4 years ago is a big difference. Just something to keep in mind. Id rather crash a $3000.00 civic than my $16000.00 FD. Just my .02