if you can only have 4 gauges... which 4?
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if you can only have 4 gauges... which 4?
so i am trying to keep my car as stock looking as possible (which means i'll have 3 gauges on the middle Din and 1 on the steering wheel column.
my 7 will be pushing 350 wrhp and will have the pfc + commander (used only when crossing)
under those circumstances, which 4 gauges will you have?
i am planning on
- wideband
- boost gauge
- water temp
- ???
my 7 will be pushing 350 wrhp and will have the pfc + commander (used only when crossing)
under those circumstances, which 4 gauges will you have?
i am planning on
- wideband
- boost gauge
- water temp
- ???
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Yeah true but a bit not true.
I mean you dont really NEED to stare at the water temp constantly but there was one time i blew a coolant hose and i only lived 7-8 minutes to get home. I was glad i had a water temp gauge.
I knew the coolant hose was burst but i didnt have the tools nor the hose to fix it where i was so i filled the car with water and rushed home.
I was literally eyeing the water temp the entire way home.
Everything was going fine in the beginning but when i was on the highway, 1/4 mile away from the gas station i enter, which shortcuts me to my house, which is only another 3 blocks. I saw the temp gauge LITERALLY go from 180, 190, 200, 210 in mere SECONDS. Almost like it was the speedometer!!!
I was like O NO!!!!
I pulled over in the gas station and cooled it down, filled up with water to get me 3 more blocks to my house.
So yeah sometimes a water temp gauge in plain view is good lol
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If I had to pick 4 I would pick
1. Wideband
2. Boost
3. Water Temp.
4. Oil Pressure
I agree I would rather have a dedicated gauge to monitor the important, can blow my engine stuff... On most nice gauges you can set up warning markers which will let you know when you are getting to dangerous territory. Id rather pay attention to the road then my commander...
Chris
1. Wideband
2. Boost
3. Water Temp.
4. Oil Pressure
I agree I would rather have a dedicated gauge to monitor the important, can blow my engine stuff... On most nice gauges you can set up warning markers which will let you know when you are getting to dangerous territory. Id rather pay attention to the road then my commander...
Chris
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wow... i guess if i don't have the commander connected all the time, i should have a water temp just in case.... thanks for the tip! and good thing you didn't blow your eng.
Yeah true but a bit not true.
I mean you dont really NEED to stare at the water temp constantly but there was one time i blew a coolant hose and i only lived 7-8 minutes to get home. I was glad i had a water temp gauge.
I knew the coolant hose was burst but i didnt have the tools nor the hose to fix it where i was so i filled the car with water and rushed home.
I was literally eyeing the water temp the entire way home.
Everything was going fine in the beginning but when i was on the highway, 1/4 mile away from the gas station i enter, which shortcuts me to my house, which is only another 3 blocks. I saw the temp gauge LITERALLY go from 180, 190, 200, 210 in mere SECONDS. Almost like it was the speedometer!!!
I was like O NO!!!!
I pulled over in the gas station and cooled it down, filled up with water to get me 3 more blocks to my house.
So yeah sometimes a water temp gauge in plain view is good lol
I mean you dont really NEED to stare at the water temp constantly but there was one time i blew a coolant hose and i only lived 7-8 minutes to get home. I was glad i had a water temp gauge.
I knew the coolant hose was burst but i didnt have the tools nor the hose to fix it where i was so i filled the car with water and rushed home.
I was literally eyeing the water temp the entire way home.
Everything was going fine in the beginning but when i was on the highway, 1/4 mile away from the gas station i enter, which shortcuts me to my house, which is only another 3 blocks. I saw the temp gauge LITERALLY go from 180, 190, 200, 210 in mere SECONDS. Almost like it was the speedometer!!!
I was like O NO!!!!
I pulled over in the gas station and cooled it down, filled up with water to get me 3 more blocks to my house.
So yeah sometimes a water temp gauge in plain view is good lol
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Yeah true but a bit not true.
I mean you dont really NEED to stare at the water temp constantly but there was one time i blew a coolant hose and i only lived 7-8 minutes to get home. I was glad i had a water temp gauge.
I knew the coolant hose was burst but i didnt have the tools nor the hose to fix it where i was so i filled the car with water and rushed home.
I was literally eyeing the water temp the entire way home.
Everything was going fine in the beginning but when i was on the highway, 1/4 mile away from the gas station i enter, which shortcuts me to my house, which is only another 3 blocks. I saw the temp gauge LITERALLY go from 180, 190, 200, 210 in mere SECONDS. Almost like it was the speedometer!!!
I was like O NO!!!!
I pulled over in the gas station and cooled it down, filled up with water to get me 3 more blocks to my house.
So yeah sometimes a water temp gauge in plain view is good lol
I mean you dont really NEED to stare at the water temp constantly but there was one time i blew a coolant hose and i only lived 7-8 minutes to get home. I was glad i had a water temp gauge.
I knew the coolant hose was burst but i didnt have the tools nor the hose to fix it where i was so i filled the car with water and rushed home.
I was literally eyeing the water temp the entire way home.
Everything was going fine in the beginning but when i was on the highway, 1/4 mile away from the gas station i enter, which shortcuts me to my house, which is only another 3 blocks. I saw the temp gauge LITERALLY go from 180, 190, 200, 210 in mere SECONDS. Almost like it was the speedometer!!!
I was like O NO!!!!
I pulled over in the gas station and cooled it down, filled up with water to get me 3 more blocks to my house.
So yeah sometimes a water temp gauge in plain view is good lol
thewird
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i agree with the wird.
i have a water temp gauge but find myself monitoring water temps on the commander just as often. The commander must be mounted in view of the driver to be utilized. This is important to monitor ait and knock values even more so. use the 4 display mode and u have a secondary boost gauge with the peak value display aswell. The Commander is a great tool, Use it.
other gauges vary depending on your mods.
boost, oil press & water temp for cars with stock ecu.
boost, wideband & oil press for cars with pfc & mounted commander
boost,wideband,oil press,oil temp,water temp, egt, fuel press are what i run with my single
setup.
I also monitor boost, knock, water temp & AIT on my commander that is mounted with a gotham racing holder.
i have a water temp gauge but find myself monitoring water temps on the commander just as often. The commander must be mounted in view of the driver to be utilized. This is important to monitor ait and knock values even more so. use the 4 display mode and u have a secondary boost gauge with the peak value display aswell. The Commander is a great tool, Use it.
other gauges vary depending on your mods.
boost, oil press & water temp for cars with stock ecu.
boost, wideband & oil press for cars with pfc & mounted commander
boost,wideband,oil press,oil temp,water temp, egt, fuel press are what i run with my single
setup.
I also monitor boost, knock, water temp & AIT on my commander that is mounted with a gotham racing holder.
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I really see no point in a wideband gauge. I log AFRs for tuning and periodically check them when the weather changes or when I have made some modifications.
Unlike, say, a temperature gauge you can't even set a meaningful warning on a wideband gauge and the values change so rapidly that keeping an eye on it constantly is unrealistic.
For tuning, the more sensors the better for logging - but only a boost gauge and a water temperature gauge are really necessary IMHO for ongoing monitoring (water temperature is a close enough proxy for oil temperature unless you are on a track).
Unlike, say, a temperature gauge you can't even set a meaningful warning on a wideband gauge and the values change so rapidly that keeping an eye on it constantly is unrealistic.
For tuning, the more sensors the better for logging - but only a boost gauge and a water temperature gauge are really necessary IMHO for ongoing monitoring (water temperature is a close enough proxy for oil temperature unless you are on a track).
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moconnor, that was the exact thing I was thinking... When the car is running properly, you can't really monitor the a/f gauge making it pointless unless you are tuning. I personally think boost and oil temp are the minimum... if you are going for less then I would only choose 2...
This is making the assumption that you have the kinks worked out in your system and everything is tuned... otherwise there is no such thing as too much info, some cars have multiple water temps!!!
This is making the assumption that you have the kinks worked out in your system and everything is tuned... otherwise there is no such thing as too much info, some cars have multiple water temps!!!
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When I'm on a track I take a peak at my wideband and fuel pressure on every major straightaway to make sure the fuel system is running ok. I think its important to monitor this stuff especially on a decently modified car. Water and air pumps I take a look on the commander every so often.
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I'm not understanding why it seems that many people feel the need to have an aftermarket Oil Pressure gauge. So long as the sender isn't broken the stock one works just fine.
I'd say my 4 (if you aren't using a PFC/Commander) gauges would have to be:
Boost
Water Temp
Oil Temp
AFR
I'd say my 4 (if you aren't using a PFC/Commander) gauges would have to be:
Boost
Water Temp
Oil Temp
AFR
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I would use 0 guages, and use one of these for 400 bucks or so.
http://www.arkdesign-us.com/usark-electronic-mfd.asp
Done.
http://www.arkdesign-us.com/usark-electronic-mfd.asp
Done.
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Or go with one gauge that can display anything you want. Makes it look nice and OEM and the gauge face can be customized to match the FD gauges:
http://plxdevices.com/products/dm100/
http://plxdevices.com/products/dm100/
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Or go with one gauge that can display anything you want. Makes it look nice and OEM and the gauge face can be customized to match the FD gauges:
http://plxdevices.com/products/dm100/
http://plxdevices.com/products/dm100/
I like the ideal a lot but the execution is a little lacking. The interface is very clunky and uploading custom gauges is a truly prehistoric process. I think the guys at PLX design very nice hardware but their software skills are marginal.
I'll report my experiences when I get everything working.