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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie

You give a professional thief 2 - 3 min w/ your car, and IT WON'T BE THERE. Alarm or no alarm. Get in, pop the hood, rip the wires off the battery. Alarm is done. Backup battery? They'll go for that as well. Sirens can be diabled quickly too, even by shorting out the electrical system if necessary. Then, tow the car away, part it out at your convenience in the privacy of your garage... You guys have a real false sense of security unfortunately.

....and don't forget those tasty Recaro seats. Just a few bolts and they're gone.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Just get full coverage insurance and your good.
No, you're not good, not even close. Not if your FD has some mods on it.

You'll be insured for the kbb value of the car, and may get some cash back towards the mods. You most definitely won't get back enough money to duplicate your modded FD. This is with conventional insurance, collector's car insurance is a bit different.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JConn2299
....and don't forget those tasty Recaro seats. Just a few bolts and they're gone.
damn dude, you are something else.......
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Why waste money installing a kill switch when you can pull the fuel pump relay? There is another easy *** way to pop the lock (someone showed me some years back) but I won't mention it. Bro, you need a trunk monkey!
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Glass will melt in the event of a fire...
Indeed - hence why you would'nt even bother....
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Giampiero
Install a Steering wheel with Quick Relise and remove it everytime you park the car.............
And that'll stop a flatbed from towing your car how?

Originally Posted by njstreetrx7
Fdnewbie....i Real Thief Wont Spend 3-4 Mins On Ur Car Out In The Public Are U Serious? Actually The City I Live In Is Rated Top 3 In Car Thefts In The Country....go Figure...o And Just For Ur Info There R No Wires Associated W The Battery Terminals....and If They Rip That My Car Not Starting Sorry
LOL. Dude, I'm sorry to break it to you, but you obviously missed the entire point. Only petty casual thieves steal cars to joyride in them; professional thieves have absolutely NO interest in getting your car started. They want the car, and the parts associated w/ the car ONLY. They're looking to part out the car...the value isn't in the car being driven (IT'S A STOLEN CAR! LOL. Did you forget that point?!?! ) The value lies in selling the parts OFF the car.

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Especially W Club On Sterring And Clutch Pedal<< Its Not Even Worth It For Thief To Steal (too Much Time)
Please... I won't go into details, but that's in NO WAY theft-proof lol. You've never seen the steering wheels w/ the clubs STILL on them left on the side of the road?

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GPS isnt THAT sensitive, its still plenty usable under a tree. I have a handheld GPS that even works in above ground parking garages, its the completely surrounded areas like tunnels and underground parking lots that give trouble.
It is. My friend dropped THOUSANDS of dollars into his alarm system, and whenever he'd park it on campus under a tree...ZERO signal. And in UNDERground parking garages, or older structures with lots of concrete and not much exposure, you're screwed as well. That's a double whammy, because not only will you not know when your car is being stolen, but then you won't have a signal to try and locate/recover it (thieves aren't stupid).

Originally Posted by Rufio
car theives would have a hard time stealing an FD because of the goofy *** alarm, that **** is funny
Dude, NO ONE knows how to disable that stock alarm...professional or not haha.

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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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...whenever he'd park it on campus under a tree...ZERO signal. And in UNDERground parking garages, or older structures with lots of concrete and not much exposure, you're screwed as well. That's a double whammy, because not only will you not know when your car is being stolen, but then you won't have a signal to try and locate/recover it (thieves aren't stupid).
Agreed. I tested a prototype GPS unit once that was being readied for motorcycle use, and it was basically useless. Unless you had at least a 70% view of the sky, it had major problems getting anywhere near enough satellites for a triangulation. And you can be sure that when the car is being chopped up, it's not in an area that has even a 0.001% view of the sky...
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
No, you're not good, not even close. Not if your FD has some mods on it.

You'll be insured for the kbb value of the car, and may get some cash back towards the mods. You most definitely won't get back enough money to duplicate your modded FD. This is with conventional insurance, collector's car insurance is a bit different.
You just got to pay a little extra for however much theft coverage you want. When you need a good neighbor state farm is there.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chinaman
Why waste money installing a kill switch when you can pull the fuel pump relay? There is another easy *** way to pop the lock (someone showed me some years back) but I won't mention it. Bro, you need a trunk monkey!

Of course, I never thought of that!!! I think I'll get this version of TM for my car.....

FD Security System


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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Holy crap, that Trunk Monkey stuff is great. I take it you guys are Subaru fans?


http://www.trunkmonkey.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/200202050...p?threadid=603

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:24 AM
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I used to be a tech at a dealership, and we always had to break in to cars that we wouild lock the keys in. We had a break in kit and everything. One guy, he was my tutor kinda, was amaziong at it. He was a great guy, but Im sure he had a questionable background, as he could get into anything in under 5 minutes, didnt matter what kind of car. And he knew how to break into almost every car we ever had. you cant slim jim a lot of cars, and you cant get something through the window on some cars, but I garuntee theres a way. And if some guy
at a small time car dealership who can do it, there are guys who are way better at it. I think people have a huge false sense of security when it comes to their cars.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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You'd be LUCKY if they used KBB. Progressive uses NADA which is considerably lower on just about every car. I had a 95 240sx with 60k -- MINT-- and they gave me 4 grand for it when it got stolen. It was pretty decently modded.

Kbb:$6,670
Nada: $4,200


Here's my rx comparision
KBB: $17,920
NADA: 10,350

Needless to say, goodbye progressive.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Just so you know it wouldn't mater what alarm you had or anything else. If they want your car it's not going to be there when you get back, anything you add is just more of a headache for the theif. In the time it took you to get it open a roll back can have it hooked up and on it's way in half that time.
This is true. I can break into the FD in about 20 secs flat with a coat hanger (because of the amount of times I left my keys in there). I don't even use anything to wedge the glass. Can hotwire the thing in about 60 secs, very easy.

If you're that worried, best deterrent I have found is a BIG DIRTY CHAIN wrapped all around the steering wheel, down to the pedals on the floor, with a few padlocks for good measure. You don't even have to lock the chain on, just the meere sight of it in the car is enough of a deterrant!

The ultimate deterrant, which I have seen proven in action, I will outline as follows...

Get 1 drivers side seat cover - fluffy material ones are the best! Get a sheet of plywood, cut it 1' x 1'. Get one handfull of 1" or 1/2" round wire nails. Sharpen tips well on a grinding wheel. Distribute evenly by hammering them fully into the board. Place 1 said seat cover, over board of sharpened nails, with nails pointing upright on the drivers seat. Leave keys in ingnition and / or doors unlocked.

Finally, do not forget to remove this apparatus before you sit into the car. If anybody has tried to steal your car, you will know about it, and you will also be able to "track down" the criminal easily.

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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Fdnewbie So Eventually They Will Try And Tow The Car? I Mentioned That As The Las Resort/easiest..but They Would Have To Be Real Gental Not To Set Off Alarm....they Would Have Cut Siren Out Thenthey Goot U
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by njstreetrx7
Fdnewbie So Eventually They Will Try And Tow The Car? I Mentioned That As The Las Resort/easiest..but They Would Have To Be Real Gental Not To Set Off Alarm....they Would Have Cut Siren Out Thenthey Goot U
Bro, give it up. No one pays attention to car alarms. If a tow truck comes by, most ppl think, repo, parking tickets, illeagly parked, etc. before they think theft. You can come out if its in your driveway, but what happens if you stopped at a store and they towed your car? Ever been to the airport? They can tow a car without ever getting out of the truck.

I used to install alarms for awhile and I know full coverage is the only chance you have of seeing anything after your car is stolen. You can deter the rookie thieves, but the pros will get you everytime.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ky7
This is true. I can break into the FD in about 20 secs flat with a coat hanger (because of the amount of times I left my keys in there). I don't even use anything to wedge the glass. Can hotwire the thing in about 60 secs, very easy.

If you're that worried, best deterrent I have found is a BIG DIRTY CHAIN wrapped all around the steering wheel, down to the pedals on the floor, with a few padlocks for good measure. You don't even have to lock the chain on, just the meere sight of it in the car is enough of a deterrant!

The ultimate deterrant, which I have seen proven in action, I will outline as follows...

Get 1 drivers side seat cover - fluffy material ones are the best! Get a sheet of plywood, cut it 1' x 1'. Get one handfull of 1" or 1/2" round wire nails. Sharpen tips well on a grinding wheel. Distribute evenly by hammering them fully into the board. Place 1 said seat cover, over board of sharpened nails, with nails pointing upright on the drivers seat. Leave keys in ingnition and / or doors unlocked.

Finally, do not forget to remove this apparatus before you sit into the car. If anybody has tried to steal your car, you will know about it, and you will also be able to "track down" the criminal easily.

No warranties, expressed or implied.

I LOVE IT!!! That's some funny ****! I can imagine someone walking around with a bunch of extra holes in his ***, bleeding holes! How the hell do you explain that to someone that sees you going down the parking lot with a trail of blood following you?!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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anyone ever seen that alarm that uses google earth? you can see the avg speed the car was moving the route it took and everything.. couldnt u use that to track where theyve been and eventually find them? also good for girlfriends btw
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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How the hell do you explain that to someone that sees you going down the parking lot with a trail of blood following you?!
Exactly!

I'm going to patent the technology.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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SOooooooo...

I locked my keys in my FD this morning.

Roadside assistance guy came, could not break into it, tried for like an hour.

I worked smarter, not harder.

I can get into ANY stock FD (at least any '93, but I bet 94 and 95 are the same) in under 30 seconds (probably under ten) with NO tools, without damaging the car and without even evidance that it was done.

After I figured it out, I couldn't ******* believe it. How did this escape mazda's testing? It's really pretty obvious too. I'm going to have to weld my ******* stereo in now for peace of mind.

Or get a big black guy named ben.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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My friend works for a place that comes out to you and unlocks your car, one day I needed his services. He walks up to my FD and says "man, I haven't done one of these in years"- 15 seconds later and no marks, the door is wide open! (no charge-either)
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kento
Agreed. I tested a prototype GPS unit once that was being readied for motorcycle use, and it was basically useless. Unless you had at least a 70% view of the sky, it had major problems getting anywhere near enough satellites for a triangulation. And you can be sure that when the car is being chopped up, it's not in an area that has even a 0.001% view of the sky...
Well im not sure what type of GPS they put in those cars but I can tell you I can sit right here in my house on this computer and a GPS the size of a remote is giving me accuracy to 18ft. Thats with an old handheld unit, recently my dad bought a new touchscreen one again made by garmin, it dosent even have an antenna and it gets better reception than this one. As the owner of 3 GPS systems and user of many more, all I can say is that if you go under a tree and lose signal you got ripped. I dont think GPS in a car for alarm reasons is in any way useful, Im just defending the technology
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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yea my buddys fd was towed away about 10 years ago. found it stripped to the chassis
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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if someone really..really wanted your car they wouldnt bother with bypassing an alarm....what a waste of time. if you're going to steal a car u just wait behind a bush for the owner to come out..walk out behind em, knock em out..take the keys...

then, buy a same year model make from a junk yard, get a salvage title, switch over the vin tags, etch the junk cars vin in the engine compartment.wait six months and tell the bmv you restored the car, and get a title for it. home free
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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^^^There are also VINs stamped on the undercarriage of the car.
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