If it's that easy, who else can get in my car?!
08-24-06, 03:16 PM
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If it's that easy, who else can get in my car?!
Had my car for 5 days, locked the damn keys in the hood compartment (left them on the battery while checking fluid levels 
) and my damn doors were locked because I locked out of habit.
Pulled the seal back, used a spark plug gauge (the kind with the flip out gauges that look like popsicle sticks) to lightly pull back the glass and slip a coat hanger in there, and popped the lock....all of which took literally less than a minute. Didn't chip the glass, or even scratch the window tint!
So, if I can do this, this fast, and without ZERO signs of entry...I bet the whole damn world can get in my car if they wanted to.
Atleast the horn started honking, and the headlights were flipping up and and down like mad.
) and my damn doors were locked because I locked out of habit.Pulled the seal back, used a spark plug gauge (the kind with the flip out gauges that look like popsicle sticks) to lightly pull back the glass and slip a coat hanger in there, and popped the lock....all of which took literally less than a minute. Didn't chip the glass, or even scratch the window tint!
So, if I can do this, this fast, and without ZERO signs of entry...I bet the whole damn world can get in my car if they wanted to.
Atleast the horn started honking, and the headlights were flipping up and and down like mad.
08-24-06, 03:22 PM
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Just so you know it wouldn't mater what alarm you had or anything else. If they want your car it's not going to be there when you get back, anything you add is just more of a headache for the theif. In the time it took you to get it open a roll back can have it hooked up and on it's way in half that time.
08-24-06, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad_Karma7
Well, thanks for informing all the auto thieves on how to steal our cars. You're killing me here. Just giving you a hard time.
This isn't even in a Car Theft 101 course it's so obvious. Sets of tools to do this can be found in any decent tool catalogue.
08-24-06, 04:04 PM
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The only thing I could see being any help would be buying something that monitors your car by gps, that way its easily located, now if they part your car out before you find it well than your screwed. Everything else is just going to slow the theif down, I personally installed a kill switch in a very remote location in my car and some other security features along with a viper 791vx alarm.
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08-24-06, 04:49 PM
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Exactly what everyone has been saying...if they want it they will get it. Alarms are easily bypassed and I just read a good article on how cars are being stolen that have the "anti-theft" transponder technology which has been proven to be easily bypassed by simply pulling a fuse. Best way is a garage/gps device.
08-24-06, 05:32 PM
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Similar to purerx7, I installed a kill switch in a very remote location on my last 7. Basically a kill switch to the fuel pump.
I would think that that would stop or severly slow a thief down when attempting to steal your car. What car thief has the time to search around your car for a hidden switch. They want to be in and gone immediately.
I would think that that would stop or severly slow a thief down when attempting to steal your car. What car thief has the time to search around your car for a hidden switch. They want to be in and gone immediately.
Originally Posted by purerx7
The only thing I could see being any help would be buying something that monitors your car by gps, that way its easily located, now if they part your car out before you find it well than your screwed. Everything else is just going to slow the theif down, I personally installed a kill switch in a very remote location in my car and some other security features along with a viper 791vx alarm.
08-24-06, 05:58 PM
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***I DONT BELIEVE ALARMS ARE EASILY BYPASSED****...I THINK THAT ALL DEPENDS ON **HOW** THE ALARM WAS INSTALLED. A THIEF WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND MY ALARM ESPECIALLY ON THE DARKEST NIGHT. i have a vx791....and if i give u 2-3 mins u wont finmd a single wire associated w my alarm by then the usual thief would run away. also its good to set up loud(ear busting tweaters w the alarm) amn massive air horns.....so even if a thief wanted to steal a car on that set up they wouldnt want to ..to much of an hassle and too much attention!.....>>last option TOW TRUCK.....AND IF UR ALATRM IS SENSITIVE THEY WILL SET IT OFF !!!....BUT THEN AGAIN IF THEY REALLY WANT IT THEYLL GET IT SOMEHOW....JUST TRY TO KEEP UR CAR IN SITE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE! GOOD LUCK
08-24-06, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CantGoStraight
Just so you know it wouldn't mater what alarm you had or anything else. If they want your car it's not going to be there when you get back, anything you add is just more of a headache for the theif. In the time it took you to get it open a roll back can have it hooked up and on it's way in half that time.
Originally Posted by njstreetrx7
***I DONT BELIEVE ALARMS ARE EASILY BYPASSED****...I THINK THAT ALL DEPENDS ON **HOW** THE ALARM WAS INSTALLED. A THIEF WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND MY ALARM ESPECIALLY ON THE DARKEST NIGHT. i have a vx791....and if i give u 2-3 mins u wont finmd a single wire associated w my alarm by then the usual thief would run away. also its good to set up loud(ear busting tweaters w the alarm) amn massive air horns.....so even if a thief wanted to steal a car on that set up they wouldnt want to ..to much of an hassle and too much attention!.....>>last option TOW TRUCK.....AND IF UR ALATRM IS SENSITIVE THEY WILL SET IT OFF !!!....BUT THEN AGAIN IF THEY REALLY WANT IT THEYLL GET IT SOMEHOW....JUST TRY TO KEEP UR CAR IN SITE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE! GOOD LUCK
Originally Posted by purerx7
The only thing I could see being any help would be buying something that monitors your car by gps, that way its easily located, now if they part your car out before you find it well than your screwed. Everything else is just going to slow the theif down, I personally installed a kill switch in a very remote location in my car and some other security features along with a viper 791vx alarm.
08-24-06, 06:41 PM
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I just thought it was a little ridiculous as to how easy it was. I realize if someone wants it, they are going to get it....that is if they can get into my garage and get out before my home alarm goes off and I shove a .45 down their throat.
Full coverage is a no brainer with a machine like this imo.
Full coverage is a no brainer with a machine like this imo.
08-24-06, 07:08 PM
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Fdnewbie....i Real Thief Wont Spend 3-4 Mins On Ur Car Out In The Public Are U Serious? Actually The City I Live In Is Rated Top 3 In Car Thefts In The Country....go Figure...o And Just For Ur Info There R No Wires Associated W The Battery Terminals....and If They Rip That My Car Not Starting Sorry
08-24-06, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
EXACTLY.
You give a professional thief 2 - 3 min w/ your car, and IT WON'T BE THERE. Alarm or no alarm. Get in, pop the hood, rip the wires off the battery. Alarm is done. Backup battery? They'll go for that as well. Sirens can be diabled quickly too, even by shorting out the electrical system if necessary. Then, tow the car away, part it out at your convenience in the privacy of your garage... You guys have a real false sense of security unfortunately.
Sory man, but GPS is EXTREMELY overrated. If you're parked under a tree for example, and thus have an obstructed "view" to the satellite, or are parked in a cement structure (underground parking for example) where (again) the signal would be obstructed, GPS is USELESS. The only thing (that I know of) that will transit through virtually anything will be radio waves, which is why Lo-Jack uses that vs. GPS.
You give a professional thief 2 - 3 min w/ your car, and IT WON'T BE THERE. Alarm or no alarm. Get in, pop the hood, rip the wires off the battery. Alarm is done. Backup battery? They'll go for that as well. Sirens can be diabled quickly too, even by shorting out the electrical system if necessary. Then, tow the car away, part it out at your convenience in the privacy of your garage... You guys have a real false sense of security unfortunately.
Sory man, but GPS is EXTREMELY overrated. If you're parked under a tree for example, and thus have an obstructed "view" to the satellite, or are parked in a cement structure (underground parking for example) where (again) the signal would be obstructed, GPS is USELESS. The only thing (that I know of) that will transit through virtually anything will be radio waves, which is why Lo-Jack uses that vs. GPS.
GPS isnt THAT sensitive, its still plenty usable under a tree. I have a handheld GPS that even works in above ground parking garages, its the completely surrounded areas like tunnels and underground parking lots that give trouble.
The best anti theft device I know of getting the windows etched. Professional theives see this right away, glass is insanely expensive to replace and its not like somebody isnt going to notice a car comming in needing all new glass for no reason.
08-24-06, 07:29 PM
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Raptor T Thats Very Tru But Will A Professional Thief Continue To Go After The Car That Is Sinsanly Loud...waking Up Everyone....i Know If That Would Go Off Ill Be Out The Bed
08-24-06, 07:35 PM
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What is window etching? I would be pissed if my car was stolen but, I do have insurance. The biggest thing I would worry about is if someone stole it for a joy ride and beat the crap out of it and the insurance people giving it back saying its ok, then you know the rest of the story.
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car theft is the same around the globe guys - all you can do is minimise any potential risks by avoiding parking your 7's in any unsafe areas (day or night) - however, if you must park your 7 in these bad areas then think about tinting your windows, installing an alarm with an imobiliser, cheaper option would be to install a 'kill switch' hidden anywhere within the vehicle.
I agree re sat tracking - overrated and expensive with serious misconceptions re coverage...
I think when it comes to car theft - bottom line.... avoidance will always supersede prevention.
Hope this makes sense!
I agree re sat tracking - overrated and expensive with serious misconceptions re coverage...
I think when it comes to car theft - bottom line.... avoidance will always supersede prevention.
Hope this makes sense!
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Originally Posted by KMAR
What is window etching? I would be pissed if my car was stolen but, I do have insurance. The biggest thing I would worry about is if someone stole it for a joy ride and beat the crap out of it and the insurance people giving it back saying its ok, then you know the rest of the story.
08-24-06, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SIR_RX7
window etching (as I understand it) is similar to what is done with diamond etching - i.e. a laser is used to etch a distinctive code either at the top or bottom of your drivers side or passenger side window - pretty useless system for cars unless this technology is used to identify ones vehicle in the event of burnt-out thefts...