3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

I Just Rebuilt My 13b And It Is Not Boosting. It Got A 16.8 At The Track :(

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-06-06, 07:09 AM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I Just Rebuilt My 13b And It Is Not Boosting. It Got A 16.8 At The Track :(

I JUST REBUILT MY 13B AND IT IS NOT BOOSTING. I RAN IT AT THE TRACK AND IT GOT A 16.8 WITH MY FRIEND RACING IT, WHOM IS A PROFESSIONAL RACER. i DONT UNDERSTAND WHY? I THINK THERE IS A BOOST LEAK SOME WHERE BUT MY MECHANIC INSISTS IT IS THE CLOGGED CATALYTIC CONVERTORS. I DONT THING IT SHOULD BE THIS SLOW. IT ALSO MAKES A NOISE LIKE AIR ESCAPING AS I AM ACCELLORATING. PLEASE SOME ONE HELP ME.
Old 10-06-06, 07:13 AM
  #2  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
http://www.autosportracetech.com/RX-...leshooting.htm
Old 10-06-06, 07:14 AM
  #3  
Mentos and Magnums

 
burnoutking999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: FLROIDUH
Posts: 3,373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Air escaping like a vacuum leak or like the wastegate? more info needed. What was rebuilt by who and did they reuse everything or all new lines and wireties. did it do this right after startup or did something happen and all of a sudden it started after running fine?
Old 10-06-06, 07:24 AM
  #4  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This Happened When I Got It Back From Fuego Racing. When He Rebuilt It He Just Left All The Vacuum Lines Disconnected. I Didnt Want That But Too Late Not. I Like The Seccuantial Setup. It Sounds Like Either The Wastegates Are Staying Open Or The Air Is Just Leaking Out Of Somewhere. I Am Not Sure What It Is Supposed To Sound Like So I Need Professional Help.
Old 10-06-06, 07:54 AM
  #5  
Mentos and Magnums

 
burnoutking999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: FLROIDUH
Posts: 3,373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
search for the vacuum diagram and follow everything. check and recheck all the lines and check valves. basically start over unless there is a glaringly obvious one left dissconnected or somtheing. wire tie them and then see what happens. althought if there is NO boost then it sounds like a wastegate not hooked by/something not allowing the pressure to build and spool the turbos.
Old 10-06-06, 08:08 AM
  #6  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by girlRacer
This Happened When I Got It Back From Fuego Racing. When He Rebuilt It He Just Left All The Vacuum Lines Disconnected. I Didnt Want That But Too Late Not. I Like The Seccuantial Setup. It Sounds Like Either The Wastegates Are Staying Open Or The Air Is Just Leaking Out Of Somewhere. I Am Not Sure What It Is Supposed To Sound Like So I Need Professional Help.
Well, that explains it.

Your 'mechanic' doesn't know **** about FD RX-7s with the stock sequential setup.

See this thread here. Pics look familiar?

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=fuego

Also, get a boost gauge.
Old 10-06-06, 08:09 AM
  #7  
el unico

 
gafu mazda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
second bad story from Fuego in a few weeks,but oh well.Check out Mahjiks link,that should hit the nail on the head.Good luck.
Old 10-06-06, 08:42 AM
  #8  
Avoid Fuego Racing

 
Str8Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Fuego has NO idea what he is doing with a 3rd gen. I'm sorry, but you are in for a lot of R&R. He did the same crap to my car after 6 month of waiting. I know a good bit about these cars, but am no expert for sure, but even I know 90% of what he did wasn't even close to correct.
Old 10-06-06, 08:44 AM
  #9  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
damn thanks. i have known him for years though and my ex alwyas gets all his wrk done there with no complaints. ??? guess he isnt good with stock set ups
Old 10-06-06, 08:46 AM
  #10  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
or, take the car to Pettit Racing.
Old 10-06-06, 08:53 AM
  #11  
Avoid Fuego Racing

 
Str8Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Let me guess, he tore out the airpump and all emmissions as well? Under the UIM the rats nest is gone right? Also disconnects your boost pressure sensors so you can no longer control boost with a PFC. There is another guy here in Jax that he did the exact same thing to. His car has been back to him 5 times and Fuego has had it for almost a year, and still can't make it run right.
Old 10-06-06, 08:57 AM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
rt turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: charlotte, nc
Posts: 693
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by girlRacer
This Happened When I Got It Back From Fuego Racing. When He Rebuilt It He Just Left All The Vacuum Lines Disconnected. I Didnt Want That But Too Late Not. I Like The Seccuantial Setup. It Sounds Like Either The Wastegates Are Staying Open Or The Air Is Just Leaking Out Of Somewhere. I Am Not Sure What It Is Supposed To Sound Like So I Need Professional Help.
i had my motor built by fuego. altough he did a great job with the motor, he left the sequential flapper loose in the manifold and did n ot tie it off for a non sequential conversion. your ganna have to go through your vac lines. or just remove them all and go non-seq.
Old 10-06-06, 09:01 AM
  #13  
2 FD's since '98

iTrader: (11)
 
rajeevx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: West Palm Beach
Posts: 1,598
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Hi Beth,

Sounds like in both cases the mechanic forced a non-seq. set up on you guys I prefer it, but of course I didn't get forced into it.

I suggest getting the downpipe/midpipe combo for cheap off Ebay and use it with your stock muffler, if that is what you want. This will eliminate all clogged cat concerns forever. Then, get a boost guage. Then, take the upper intake manifold off and trace every vac. line to and from where it is supposed to go for a sequential set up.

Good luck
Old 10-06-06, 09:09 AM
  #14  
Senior Member

 
rt turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: charlotte, nc
Posts: 693
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by girlRacer
damn thanks. i have known him for years though and my ex alwyas gets all his wrk done there with no complaints. ??? guess he isnt good with stock set ups
yes, i hear he came from PR and used to work with the fast PR rotary guys. he flies in a guy that tunes the microtech from PR. I think his past with rotarys consist of stripping and modding to race cars... hince removal of emissions and seq- systems. but i cant complain about my motor... runs strong, good compression with me beating on it.
Old 10-06-06, 09:20 AM
  #15  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
This guy has absolutely no right to perform work that isn't asked for on the cars of paying customers.

So she's just supposed to figure out how to 'reinstall' the sequential system and emissions? Talk about a nightmare, I'd rather go 10 rounds with Mike Tyson.
Old 10-06-06, 09:30 AM
  #16  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah. he builds good motors but is horrible with electrical and emmissions. he just ripped everything out. unbelievable. i am not looking forward to fixing his mess. shouldnt i take it back to him and have him put it back the way it was?
Old 10-06-06, 09:33 AM
  #17  
RX-7 Bad Ass

iTrader: (55)
 
DaleClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 15,399
Received 2,438 Likes on 1,509 Posts
Hell, I'm in Pensacola, FL - if you guys want to get your cars over here, I'd be happy to get the emissions and sequential system working again. I hate to see people hack up crap like that.

Dale
Old 10-06-06, 09:33 AM
  #18  
3rd rotors a charm

iTrader: (4)
 
charlies7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NW of windy city
Posts: 3,331
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ummmmm no...lesson learned i would think???? Just bring it to pettit racing.
Old 10-06-06, 09:48 AM
  #19  
el unico

 
gafu mazda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by charlies7
ummmmm no...lesson learned i would think???? Just bring it to pettit racing.

or take it to Dale.At least he offered.And as far as"fuego"goes,i BELIEVE the one that flew from PR was franco,with the microtech crap and laptop,unless it was Jose(who did SOME kind of Clubman racing work).Either which way,not meant for stock FDs.
Old 10-06-06, 10:05 AM
  #20  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
any one in Orlando wanna help me? please:*(
Old 10-06-06, 10:12 AM
  #21  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by girlRacer
shouldnt i take it back to him and have him put it back the way it was?
Ideally yes. If he did something to the car that you didn't ask for, you should have him put it the way you want it without paying for it. However, you need to think about how much of a headache do you want to go through to resolve the situation.

Right now you have a few options:

1. Take it back to the same shop and fight with them to fix it the way you wanted it originally. This may involve more than one trip back and forth but shouldn't cost you anything but gas.

2. Take it to Pettit Racing. They will make it the way you want it, but you'll have to pay for it.

3. Get local (FL, not necessarily next door) help for "you" to work on the car. Dale has already offered to help. You will most likely have to do some driving to get to someone to help. They are offering the help, the least you can do is actually drive to them (i.e. don't ask them to come to your place).
Old 10-06-06, 10:21 AM
  #22  
Avoid Fuego Racing

 
Str8Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I PROMISE you, you will NEVER get it fixed taking it back to him. He doesn't know how to fix it, period. And that is not me being mean, it's reality, this has happened to WAY too many people to be coincidence. He just doesn't know how to build a 3rd gen with Sequential setup. So, how would someone who doesn't know how to do it, and obvioulsy doesn't care, ever get it done? You will just be without a car for 6+ months and still be in the same boat as you are now.
Old 10-06-06, 10:31 AM
  #23  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
girlRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: orlando fl
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well i would like to do it myself but afraid i may be biting off more than i can chew. i would prefer some one to kindly help me just to make sure i can get it done with out further issues
Old 10-06-06, 10:32 AM
  #24  
Senior Member

 
rt turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: charlotte, nc
Posts: 693
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gafu mazda
or take it to Dale.At least he offered.And as far as"fuego"goes,i BELIEVE the one that flew from PR was franco,with the microtech crap and laptop,unless it was Jose(who did SOME kind of Clubman racing work).Either which way,not meant for stock FDs.
definatly not meant for stock FDs. but if your building up, then hes great... like my situation.. i did have a minor problem, but was an easy fix. im working on building a beast, so his services worked for me...
Old 10-06-06, 10:57 AM
  #25  
Avoid Fuego Racing

 
Str8Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I agree RT, but the point is, he is charging money for services he can't provide. And telling people that he knows how to do this stuff. If it was a buddy coming to my house to help out, that is one thing, but I paid to ship my car to him, thinking he knew what he was doing, when he has no idea. You shouldn't have had to fix your car when you got it back from him, it should have worked.


Quick Reply: I Just Rebuilt My 13b And It Is Not Boosting. It Got A 16.8 At The Track :(



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:56 PM.