phatmonky

I figured the 3gen guys would have the best idea, so move this if you MUST, but I figure this was the best place to ask.



http://www.hensing.com/timgree

It's got it's share of wear on it, so obviously 17 is way too high. See "Discrepancies" for the admitted problems.


Should I keep on looking? Point out everything you can see wrong please Or things I need to be concerned with. Anyone in NC that wants to go test drive the car for me?

TailHappy

I dunno. I might low ball it at like $10k or so. I can't tell if he's saying that the engine in it has 75k miles on it (probably), or if they just put the engine in and don't have any miles on it (doubtful). If the engine has that many miles, there's a pretty good chance the engine or the turbos will need replacing "in the not-too-distant future." I don't think the thing's as immaculate as the guy leads you to believe, judging from the discrepancies. Personally, that R1 lip would have to be replaced immediately. It depends on your views, but I know you can find plenty of FDs with good performance mods in the $13-$15 range, and this one appeared relatively stock. In my case, I knew I'd want the mods anyway, so if you get one with them already on there, you essentially get them for free.

But hey, that's just my completely unfounded opinion. I'm in NC, though, so you might be able to bribe me to go take a look at it!

Mahjik

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$17k... Well, I think that's a good price if the engine is freshly rebuilt as they say it is.. The question is will you pay $17k for it?

The things listed are pretty minor. You can get a new front lip, shifter **** and e-brake handle.

The seat problem isn't a good and the door ding is bad. Looks like the seats are bad in general, however, you could put some nice Spaco seats in and it would look nice.

You could use some touch up paint on the door, but if it were me, I would take it to a body shop if there is a dent. Have then work the dent out and then repaint just the door.

With a little extra cash, that could be one nice, clean FD. Engine looks to be very clean and good condition from the photos.

Nathan Kwok

10k? You've got to be kidding. Don't waste your time with such a low offer, there's no way he'll accept. I would try to offer $15-$16k. Although he was ambiguous about the engine, the pictures lead me to believe it is a brand new reman and the total mileage is 75k. This is probably one of the most pristine examples of a stock RX-7 I've seen for sale in awhile. As long as the compression checks out and the paintjob is quality, the asking price is an excellent deal. You have to understand new turbos cost $2700, a new engine $3000 (installed), and new paint $3000 if its quality. Not to mention the other random parts. The only thing that worries me is the dp+mp, thats not a good thing on an otherwise stock car, but since the engine is new, just check the compression. If you're looking for a car to mod, don't waste your money on this car, he spent extra money for factory parts, they cost a fortune, but there are people out there who want factory stuff for collectibility or other reasons.

phatmonky

FYI, an e-mail reply from him:

Who was the paint done by? (why?just for the factory 93 paint?)

Paint: The paint was done by a local paint shop here in Charlotte by a guy
named Roger Malcolm. If you need to contact him, let me know and I'll
forward his information to you.

Why was the hood replaced?

Hood: The hood was damaged when I bought it, and since it is made out of
aluminium, the body shop could not fix it, forcing me to purchase a new one.
Since it had to be painted, I followed the recommendation of Roger Malcolm
and re-painted the entire front end of the car to ensure it blended properly
with the existing paint.

Who did the engine replacement?

Engine: The engine was replaced by Montgomery Mazda in Charlotte, NC, by an
RX-7 mechanic named Jim Green. He is the same person that replaced the
motors in my previous two RX-7s as well.

Is that a r1/r2 strut tower bar?

Bar: I think it's an R1 strut bar, but I'm not for certain.

When were the turbos replaced?

Turbo: Brand new turbos were installed the same time the engine was,
including the down-pipe, mid-pipe, boost gague, turbo timer, clutch,
pressure plate, and rear R1 spoiler.

If you have any more questions, please let me know



Guys, please keep the opinions coming. you've given m e alot to consder already

phatmonky

I am looking to mod slowly but surely, and a single turbo would be in the works about a year from now.

Why do you say the dp+mp is a bad thing?? the dp is obviously good. Why does the addition of the mp suddenly make it bad? Thans man

TailHappy

Yeah, I agree he'd never take $10k (although you never know). I'm just saying there's good FDs to be had in the $13-15k range, but it's all in where your priorities are. Like you say, stock may be a priority, and they're definitely hard to find. I personally think that unless you're a collector, certain mods make this a better car in all ways. But I would be inclined to think this guy's just fishing. I personally wouldn't bother making a web page like that if I intended on getting rid of it quickly.

TailHappy

And my bad, I didn't notice it had new turbos. Definitely a plus!

MastaCow

It looks to be an R1 strut bar-if you look at the driver's side of it...looks like it has a thing so you can pre-load the bar. My understanding is that the R2 bars lacked this feature.

<laugh> sorry for the lack of technical terms.

TailHappy

Dp+mp can be a bad thing because there's no chance of passing emissions, if you have that in your county. It also usually requires an ECU to handle the extra fuel required from the increased flow (can't see if he's already done that since I can't get the page to load anymore). Also, lots of people end up getting boost creep, it's loud, and smells worse. But if none of that's a problem, it can be a good thing. More power and flamage!

Nathan Kwok

Like tailhappy said, with a midpipe you will be overboosting, and possibly getting creep. The problem isn't so much the flow, its that the stock ecu doesn't have fuel maps past 10psi so it runs too lean and can detonate. However if he doesn't blast around a lot this probably wouldn't be a problem, plus its a brand new engine. The fact that the entire car wasn't repainted lowers it a little, but I still think its a good deal. The final verdict can't be made until you inspect it. If the paint looks really good, there's no cheap replacement for ncie paint, same goes for the compression test, those things are what make or break the car.