How many of ya'll have a full cage in your street cars?
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How many of ya'll have a full cage in your street cars?
I was thinking about putting a full cage in my FD, but figured it wouldn't be such a great idea for a street car. Seeing as how it would hurt like a **** if you hit your head on a bar, even if it's padded. Also, I'm about 6'2", any idea on how much head room I would have from the "halo".
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Why a full cage? Are you racing in a race series that requires it? If not why add the extra weight?
And yes, it is a pain on the street. I have not tried an FD on the street with a full cage but I used to have a street legal BMW rally car with a full cage and that was not much fun to get in and out of. I imagine an FD would be even worse given its already tight interior.
And yes, it is a pain on the street. I have not tried an FD on the street with a full cage but I used to have a street legal BMW rally car with a full cage and that was not much fun to get in and out of. I imagine an FD would be even worse given its already tight interior.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. As far as racing, the car will see a lot more racing than street use actually. Also, I'm positive that the car will be in the 10's as far a drag racing goes, and it'll see a hell of alot autoX action as well. Btw, don't flame me for the 10 second remark....it has a built ls1. You can flame me for that though, I don't care.
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I just got the FULL cage from Larry at The Race Shop - www.theraceshop.com I didn't want a full cage, but he talked me into it because the seat loops and side bars are easily removed, he says. I haven't installed yet, but will be doing so for RX Tuner Magazine and reporting on it. Combined with my Bride VioxIII seats, it's going to be a tight fit! I gotta get back on the treadmill.
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There is no middle ground when it comes to cages/rollbars. You should never drive a car with a full cage, without a helmet. However, you aren't going to drive around the streets with a helmet.
On the street, you always run the risk of having something happen where it could cause you to hit one of the bars. The rollbar guys usually catch a break as it's typically far enough back that the seat would have to break to allow the head to hit it.
It gets dangerous trying to have a dual purpose car. So you have to pick which is the risk you want to take (no cage for the track, or possibly smack your head on the cage from a accident on the street). Me? I doubt I would ever drive a car with a full cage on the street without a helmet. I trust myself, it's the other drivers I don't trust.
So, I'll be using a rollbar. A cage is overkill for what I do.
On the street, you always run the risk of having something happen where it could cause you to hit one of the bars. The rollbar guys usually catch a break as it's typically far enough back that the seat would have to break to allow the head to hit it.
It gets dangerous trying to have a dual purpose car. So you have to pick which is the risk you want to take (no cage for the track, or possibly smack your head on the cage from a accident on the street). Me? I doubt I would ever drive a car with a full cage on the street without a helmet. I trust myself, it's the other drivers I don't trust.
So, I'll be using a rollbar. A cage is overkill for what I do.
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a "Cage" huh? i honestly thought when i was younger about getting a huge truck and custom fabbing a huge roll cage outside the vehicle then using it for city driving, cause then in the even of an accident your vehicle is okay while the other guys is written off, just my "Fun" ideas of how to get other drivers to back off.
As far as the Roll cage in the Streetable FD not my personal experiance but i would refrain from it, now a more track going car would be a optimum spot for such "Luxury" but would usefull, for fun friday night driving on the street i would say roll Bar just cause it's alot less weight and the car can still retain some of it's everday driving leasures.
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As far as the Roll cage in the Streetable FD not my personal experiance but i would refrain from it, now a more track going car would be a optimum spot for such "Luxury" but would usefull, for fun friday night driving on the street i would say roll Bar just cause it's alot less weight and the car can still retain some of it's everday driving leasures.
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I have a 5pt roll bar in my 240SX & it really doesnt get in the way of anything during daily driving and such besides the cross bar in the middle of my rear view. I much rather have the added weight when im in the mountins or on the track doing my thing. My friend runs a full 6pt cage from Cusco in his 240SX and the fit is very good so it barly gets in the way of anything (I belive they make this one with street use in mind). He cant use his sun shades anymore though.
I want to get a nice 4pt or 5pt (havent decided yet) from the race shop for my FD but I have been busy working on other areas of the car. Im hoping sometime next year I will have one in there.
Oh, and be prepared for a lot of stares/people asking stupid questions/people trying to street race you.
I want to get a nice 4pt or 5pt (havent decided yet) from the race shop for my FD but I have been busy working on other areas of the car. Im hoping sometime next year I will have one in there.
Oh, and be prepared for a lot of stares/people asking stupid questions/people trying to street race you.
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Getting racing seats are a pain in the **** when using it for the steet (getting in and out of the car especially when parking between two cars). On the positive side it gives you more head room for your helmet though!
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Mahjik , great points ! I have a six point cage Piper motorsports made for me installed two years ago. It was a necessary for the track but its very dangerous to drive without a helmet. Top that I pulled my stock wheel and replaced it with a Momo. With out an air bag and the cage its not a street car anymore.
I am not sure about the bolt in cages , but mine was all custom made and welded to the car. Its amazing, the rear of the car is so freaking stiff , I love it. Feels just like a kart
I am not sure about the bolt in cages , but mine was all custom made and welded to the car. Its amazing, the rear of the car is so freaking stiff , I love it. Feels just like a kart
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i don't have a cage yet, but plan on having one soon. there are a few good places near the airport in Columbus that fabricate cages and do pretty good work from what i hear.
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I had a 6 point x brace installed in mine when I had it for the 10.99 sec pass rules, but personally I wouldn't install it again just because of the side bars. I think NHRA requires welded side bars and not pin held, but if they do now, you might be able to just pop the pin held side bars in for the track and leave them out for the street, so you don't need a helmet. Make sure the top bar is a tight fit and really high, and use your 5 point harnesses at all times with use of some blind spot mirrors. good luck.
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Originally Posted by Conv.WS6
I had a 6 point x brace installed in mine when I had it for the 10.99 sec pass rules, but personally I wouldn't install it again just because of the side bars. I think NHRA requires welded side bars and not pin held, but if they do now, you might be able to just pop the pin held side bars in for the track and leave them out for the street, so you don't need a helmet. Make sure the top bar is a tight fit and really high, and use your 5 point harnesses at all times with use of some blind spot mirrors. good luck.
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Not sure about a full cage but I had a 4-point autopower in my GTUs. In my opinion it made the car to stiff (you thought you had rattles before wait till you put in the cage) for a daily driver and between that and the rear strut tower bar there was not much room to put anything back there. If I put a cage again in another car I would make sure it’s my weekend toy not a daily driver.
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I currently have a full cage in an FD that I drive daily. Please keep in mind that this is NOT my daily driver but I drive it to and from work. The cage is padded for obvious safety reasons. I have the removable side bars which are NHRA legal. You have to buy the NHRA approved side bar clevis kit for it to be legal.
Here is a pic. The side bars are both removable for driver and passenger so its easy to get in and out of. I have roll bar padding all over the cage.
Overall for daily driving you really don't notice it. You do have to tilt your head when going in and getting out. I drove the car for Rotorfest back to NYC in heavy traffic for over 4 hours and had no issues with being comfortable. I do wish that I bent the back bar so I could recline the seat.
Other than that, all is ok.
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Here is a pic. The side bars are both removable for driver and passenger so its easy to get in and out of. I have roll bar padding all over the cage.
Overall for daily driving you really don't notice it. You do have to tilt your head when going in and getting out. I drove the car for Rotorfest back to NYC in heavy traffic for over 4 hours and had no issues with being comfortable. I do wish that I bent the back bar so I could recline the seat.
Other than that, all is ok.
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