How long should a bulletproofed engine last?
08-12-02, 06:20 PM
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How long should a bulletproofed engine last?
Hi everyone,
This is my first post, so any apologies for newbieness.
I've lurked on here for quite a while, and read most of the FAQs, but have not found any info regarding the life of a bulletproofed engine. I'm really close to purchasing a 93, and at least taking the worse case scenario that the engine's shot (that way, I can only be pleasantly surprised!).
If I were to get an engine rebuilt with new rotors, new seals, and all the basic mods to clean up the major problems, still, how much life should can I reliably assume for the engine if I did a limited spirited driving?
If anyone could mention issues I might be missing, or just the mileage they pulled from a bp'ed engine, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks in advance!
Jon
This is my first post, so any apologies for newbieness.
I've lurked on here for quite a while, and read most of the FAQs, but have not found any info regarding the life of a bulletproofed engine. I'm really close to purchasing a 93, and at least taking the worse case scenario that the engine's shot (that way, I can only be pleasantly surprised!).
If I were to get an engine rebuilt with new rotors, new seals, and all the basic mods to clean up the major problems, still, how much life should can I reliably assume for the engine if I did a limited spirited driving?
If anyone could mention issues I might be missing, or just the mileage they pulled from a bp'ed engine, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks in advance!
Jon
08-12-02, 06:27 PM
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A rotary with all of the reliability mods done ( Downpipe, AST, bigger radiator, and silicone hose job) should last quite a while. Most motors are blown due to improper modding, and or overheating. So, if you can keep the new motor from overheating, overboosting, leaning out, and change the motor oil in regular intervals ( 3k miles at the most) you should have a motor that will last a good 100k miles. Also, people new to rotaries tend to forget that you have to add oil to the motor every once in a while because they burn oil by design. So, check that dipstick often!
08-12-02, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Swamp RX-7
A rotary with all of the reliability mods done ( Downpipe, AST, bigger radiator, and silicone hose job) should last quite a while. Most motors are blown due to improper modding, and or overheating. So, if you can keep the new motor from overheating, overboosting, leaning out, and change the motor oil in regular intervals ( 3k miles at the most) you should have a motor that will last a good 100k miles. Also, people new to rotaries tend to forget that you have to add oil to the motor every once in a while because they burn oil by design. So, check that dipstick often!
A rotary with all of the reliability mods done ( Downpipe, AST, bigger radiator, and silicone hose job) should last quite a while. Most motors are blown due to improper modding, and or overheating. So, if you can keep the new motor from overheating, overboosting, leaning out, and change the motor oil in regular intervals ( 3k miles at the most) you should have a motor that will last a good 100k miles. Also, people new to rotaries tend to forget that you have to add oil to the motor every once in a while because they burn oil by design. So, check that dipstick often!
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08-12-02, 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by gmonsen
as swamp rx7 says, a well built motor with the right mods to keep it cool, and a good wide-band tuning job to keep it from going lean and detonating result in a very long-lasting motor.
Advertising Boy notes that ray at pfs has a ported motor that has endured 200 dyno pulls and over 10,000 miles!!!! of course ray works for a car tuner where he can rebuild his motor at a moments notice and, of course, i don't think you're looking for a 650 hp motor that will last 10,000 miles. HEY I SAID STILL GOING..... -gordon
as swamp rx7 says, a well built motor with the right mods to keep it cool, and a good wide-band tuning job to keep it from going lean and detonating result in a very long-lasting motor.
Advertising Boy notes that ray at pfs has a ported motor that has endured 200 dyno pulls and over 10,000 miles!!!! of course ray works for a car tuner where he can rebuild his motor at a moments notice and, of course, i don't think you're looking for a 650 hp motor that will last 10,000 miles. HEY I SAID STILL GOING..... -gordon
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08-12-02, 08:22 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
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Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
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Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
08-12-02, 10:39 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RonKMiller
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Damn Ron...chill out bro. The original thread was how long it should last, not Let's blast Don't Be a Rikki.
We drive rotary's...no such thing as bullet proof
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
We drive rotary's...no such thing as bullet proof
08-12-02, 10:39 PM
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A bulletproof engine should be rebuilt every 50k miles. This would be a well built engine that can handle extreme amounts of "use". Rebuilding at every 50k would allow for longer overall life of the major components, while replacing the seals, rings, etc.
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08-13-02, 07:33 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RonKMiller
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Ron I understand your frustration and concerns about credit card sales. In the past he has been burnt by these methods and so it is a little bit risky in his taste. I am not saying something could be worked out here but just take a second and relax and let me see what I can do. Or have you already made up your mind? I am willing to help after all that is what I am here for. Right?
-Rikki
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
Ahem.......ya, what's with the logo anyway, Advertising Boy. Are we trying to get in good with newbs or what?
I've only had one personal dealing with your boss, and he was the rudest ************ on the phone I've ever dealt with anywhere. You can tell him I said so.
I obviously was not worthy of his attention, even though I was about to drop 5 large on his products by mail order no less. I carry AMEX. Better than gold.
Needless to say, I used it elsewhere.
-Rikki
08-13-02, 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by jspecracer7
Damn Ron...chill out bro. The original thread was how long it should last, not Let's blast Don't Be a Rikki.
We drive rotary's...no such thing as bullet proof
Damn Ron...chill out bro. The original thread was how long it should last, not Let's blast Don't Be a Rikki.
We drive rotary's...no such thing as bullet proof
I dont think he was trying to blast me just venting out some anger he had. Which is fine. Everyone has a moment when they need to exhale. Ron please p.m. me if you have any concerns about the above topic mentioned(or what I have offered.)-Ryan
08-13-02, 12:44 PM
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It will last as long as you don't find a big enough bullet...
Seriously thou i was running my stock motor for over 120k miles and i rebuilt it cuz i wanted ports not cuz it popped. just take care of it and i'll take care of you. Dont run off EVERY light as if you were racing that's all
Seriously thou i was running my stock motor for over 120k miles and i rebuilt it cuz i wanted ports not cuz it popped. just take care of it and i'll take care of you. Dont run off EVERY light as if you were racing that's all
08-13-02, 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Ron I understand your frustration and concerns about credit card sales. In the past he has been burnt by these methods and so it is a little bit risky in his taste. I am not saying something could be worked out here but just take a second and relax and let me see what I can do. Or have you already made up your mind? I am willing to help after all that is what I am here for. Right?
-Rikki
Ron I understand your frustration and concerns about credit card sales. In the past he has been burnt by these methods and so it is a little bit risky in his taste. I am not saying something could be worked out here but just take a second and relax and let me see what I can do. Or have you already made up your mind? I am willing to help after all that is what I am here for. Right?
-Rikki
You seem like a stand up guy.
It's just that this made quite a lasting impression on me - when someone refuses to do business with me and cuts me off on the phone. It was kind of like he was doing me a big favor by taking time away from his busy day so that I could ask a couple of questions regarding your products. Jeeeesh........
I understand how it is possible to get jerked around with credit card sales (my business is 100% credit card sales). I just don't like being treated that way -
If somebody was about to send me $5,000 worth of business and I did not want to take a credit card I would probably say "OK, send me a cashiers check, and for the hassle I'll give you another 5% off".
THAT'S how to do business.
Like I said, I spent my my hard earned money with someone else.
08-13-02, 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by blackscorpio
Technically speaking a bulletproof engine should last forever.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a bulletproof rotary.
Technically speaking a bulletproof engine should last forever.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a bulletproof rotary.
08-13-02, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by RonKMiller
Well, this is not a personal attack on you - by no means.
You seem like a stand up guy.
It's just that this made quite a lasting impression on me - when someone refuses to do business with me and cuts me off on the phone. It was kind of like he was doing me a big favor by taking time away from his busy day so that I could ask a couple of questions regarding your products. Jeeeesh........
I understand how it is possible to get jerked around with credit card sales (my business is 100% credit card sales). I just don't like being treated that way -
If somebody was about to send me $5,000 worth of business and I did not want to take a credit card I would probably say "OK, send me a cashiers check, and for the hassle I'll give you another 5% off".
THAT'S how to do business.
Like I said, I spent my my hard earned money with someone else.
Well, this is not a personal attack on you - by no means.
You seem like a stand up guy.
It's just that this made quite a lasting impression on me - when someone refuses to do business with me and cuts me off on the phone. It was kind of like he was doing me a big favor by taking time away from his busy day so that I could ask a couple of questions regarding your products. Jeeeesh........
I understand how it is possible to get jerked around with credit card sales (my business is 100% credit card sales). I just don't like being treated that way -
If somebody was about to send me $5,000 worth of business and I did not want to take a credit card I would probably say "OK, send me a cashiers check, and for the hassle I'll give you another 5% off".
THAT'S how to do business.
Like I said, I spent my my hard earned money with someone else.
-Rikki
08-13-02, 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Well, I wish I could have done something for you. I tell you what next time you want a product or info please give PFS one more shot. Just let me know and it will be my promise to you that it can work.
-Rikki
Well, I wish I could have done something for you. I tell you what next time you want a product or info please give PFS one more shot. Just let me know and it will be my promise to you that it can work.
-Rikki
08-13-02, 04:25 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys, just to let you know your posts weren't on deaf ears. I'll continue my research on reliability mods. Thanks again-
-Jon
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08-13-02, 08:06 PM
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My engine just popped at 81K. I am having a Mazda Rebuild, Rebuilt with upgraded seals all around. The rotors are being clearanced and the shaft pellet installed. A few other things including streetporting. I think starting with a remanufactured engine is a good way to go. Total cost is 3450. After tuning I am looking for another 80-100K.
Chris
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08-13-02, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by manatecu
My engine just popped at 81K. I am having a Mazda Rebuild, Rebuilt with upgraded seals all around. The rotors are being clearanced and the shaft pellet installed. A few other things including streetporting. I think starting with a remanufactured engine is a good way to go. Total cost is 3450. After tuning I am looking for another 80-100K.
Chris
My engine just popped at 81K. I am having a Mazda Rebuild, Rebuilt with upgraded seals all around. The rotors are being clearanced and the shaft pellet installed. A few other things including streetporting. I think starting with a remanufactured engine is a good way to go. Total cost is 3450. After tuning I am looking for another 80-100K.
Chris
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