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Old May 13, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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How long do High Flow Cats last?

I recently had to do a smog check, and after bringing it to shop and failing the first time, I started looking around at what to do. I have a RX-7 store DP, Random Technologies HF cat, and a cat back. It is also a very large street port. I brought it to a friends shop, and the guy said that all i have to do it replace my cat and i should be fine. I spent over $600 two years ago and now its already broken? The guy said that since the engines get so hot, the mess up the Cat. Is this true, or did he just want some money for the illegal smog?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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it should still be fine unless your running to rich.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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I have been told by a reputable tuner that a lot of brand new high flow cats wouln't even pass emissions testing. CA I imagine is pretty tough do you still have your stock cat? I would just swap it back in and do the test.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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the bonez highflow cat work very good. I pass california smog with room to spair. if your car is working properly you shoulg get years out of a cat. running to rich without an air pump or air control valve will kill the cat quick.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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I'll second the above, I passed CA smog with a bonez cat. I can't tell you too much about its longevity but it's rumored to be good. However, I'd be pretty concerned about your large street port, that might make passing difficult to impossible regardless of what cat you have.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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It depends on a lot factors - one of which is tuning.

It is hard to pass w/o trick when you have a street ported motor.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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most aftermarket HF cats use a ceramic core, which after a while melts by the high rotary exhaust heat and eventually form a wall that'll block ur exaust flow. when you start smelling rotten eggs.. that's when ur ceramic HF cat is going out..

aftermarket ceramic cats usually last roughly around 2 years, which is one of the reasons why people switch over to Metal substrate cats such as SMB and Knightsports. I may be a bit off, but if i remember correctly, metal substrate cats last about 6-7 years.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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+1. I think I've heard that before about the ceramic cats not being able to stand up to the heat a rotary produces.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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did you have your airpump hooked up?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RX7LINK
aftermarket ceramic cats usually last roughly around 2 years, which is one of the reasons why people switch over to Metal substrate cats such as SMB and Knightsports. I may be a bit off, but if i remember correctly, metal substrate cats last about 6-7 years.
The evidence I have seen suggests just the opposite. The high heat generated by the rotary engines tends to melt the metal cats very quickly. A good quality ceramic cat (like bonez) should last a long time.

To the original poster: It may be that there is nothing wrong with your cat. Is it a metal cat? If so, it may be melted. If it smells bad, that is probably the case. Replace it with a stock cat for the test, then reinstall it if it doesn't stink too bad.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bryant
it should still be fine unless your running to rich.
Why do you think his cat is fine?
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Old May 15, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
The evidence I have seen suggests just the opposite. The high heat generated by the rotary engines tends to melt the metal cats very quickly. A good quality ceramic cat (like bonez) should last a long time.

To the original poster: It may be that there is nothing wrong with your cat. Is it a metal cat? If so, it may be melted. If it smells bad, that is probably the case. Replace it with a stock cat for the test, then reinstall it if it doesn't stink too bad.
agreed, if its metal with such high exhaust temp its gonna fail fast.
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