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Old 01-19-05, 02:04 PM
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How to get secondary injectors out? (huge pic.. sorry)

Heres where I'm at now:



What do I have to pull to get the rats nest out? I'm just taking my time and making sure not to break too much.. first time I've had the car apart. Any guidance?
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Do a search. You will need to remove the rat's nest to get to any of the injectors. There are phillips screws in front of the rat's nest facing the bumper and some on the back facing the firewall. You will need a rachet with a #2 phillips head to remove. The were sealed with locktite but seeing that your rats nest has silicone hoses it has probalbly been removed before. If you are lucky they were replaced with allen head bolts.
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First take you ignition coil rack off. The bolts required for removing the rats nest should be in plain view.
Disconnect and label (if need be) all vac hoses going to the rats nest.
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allright. ill continue the fun later tonight. thanks
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I feel for you man, I had to research when I was doing mine didn’t really find much, just ripped everything out
here something to help you out :
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you are nearly there you have to remove the air control valve should be 3 nuts holding it on make sure you remember where the vacuum hoses go. And don’t drop the nut !

now you can see the injectors disconnect the connector.
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now you can see the injectors disconnect the connector.
here are the injectors circled in red, I used some penetrating oil on the Phillip heads make sure you have a good screw driver as these can get rounded off easily !
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once you have removed those hat looking things that hold the injectors down use some like wd-40 or something cos I found these injectors were a PITA to get out, and work them by twisting the injector with some good mole grips, be careful because these can crack easily if you apply too much pressure on them.
As you can see I cracked on of them!
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its only a rough guide PM if you have any questions.


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You dont need to pull the rats nest. The ACV is enough. Of course a super long pair of needle nose pliers and a very delicate touch will be needed. It is difficult to do without pulling the rats nest, but pulling the rats nest is such a pain that it is worth the work to not pull it. You will want some vaseline or something to hold things together when you reinstall the injectors, dont want to be losing o-rings down there.
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Originally Posted by shaq
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now you can see the injectors disconnect the connector.
here are the injectors circled in red, I used some penetrating oil on the Phillip heads make sure you have a good screw driver as these can get rounded off easily !
And as you can see in this pic, you DON'T need to remove the solenoid rack and all that stuff to get the secondary injectors out. Once you get to what you see in this picture, you can undo the two Phillips screws for each injector and then twist them out. However, they can be VERY hard to get out, so be prepared to spend a fair amount of time extracting them. You might need to do some careful prying and/or grab them with a wire, grab them with pliers (and a cloth to avoid marring the plastic). The plastic top of the injectors is easily damaged, so be careful while extracting them.

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You can buy a florescent light at Lowes for about $12. It will provide much better lighting and not burn the hell out of you. As far as you actual concern the ones above me have already helped you.
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Thanks for the guide shaq! Great.. so I'm just gonna pull the acv and see how that goes.


Oh and about lighting.. I have 2 500 watt halogens directed at whereI work.. I just use that stupid shop light to find bolts when I drop them =/ I'm cheap. At least my garage is heated 75 degree garage is nice when its 20 out.

I'll get back to work around 11pm.. see how it goes I guess!
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you can check Chris Regan's site. AKA Crispy
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Ok wow. Got it done. Got the ACV off.. got the injectors swapped out. Then went to put the ACV back in.. oh lord.. the bottom bolt was impossible. Finally after much cursing and my hands getting cut and dropping bolts we finally got it back on. Then hooked everything back up.. and my throttle plates were sticking open, because they were catching on a zip tie. Figured that out after taking everything back apart again. FINALLY got it back together and started.. idled ok, setup the pfc for 1300cc secondaries.. and got on the highway.

WOT in 3rd = .87psi and 73% inj. duty cycle. Muchhhh better than my previous 100%! Now to get a midpipe And get her tuned for 14psi

Thanks for all the help!
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