Help me spend my money!
Hey all!
I have been floating around for a while, saving up some money from the past summer to buy some new things for my car. To start off, I have a 1994 (late build 93). It is the famous Vintage Red, 5speed Touring model.
It is completly stock, and I have about $7,350 to spend. I have about 8,500 in the bank, but would like to keep a reserve.
So, I was looking for a FMIC, Radiator, full exhaust, and ecu.
For the FMIC I was thinking Greddy 2 row or Apexi's unit.
For the Radiator, I was thinking Koyo since it is cheap, something like 400.
For the exhaust, I was thinking about going with a Pettit downpipe and the HKS Titanium exhaust (midpipe and catback unit).
I need help deciding on the ECU. What should I do? PFC? AEM?
Also, can I get all this under my budget? Where should I shop for cheap prices?
Thanks,
Jon
I have been floating around for a while, saving up some money from the past summer to buy some new things for my car. To start off, I have a 1994 (late build 93). It is the famous Vintage Red, 5speed Touring model.
It is completly stock, and I have about $7,350 to spend. I have about 8,500 in the bank, but would like to keep a reserve.
So, I was looking for a FMIC, Radiator, full exhaust, and ecu.
For the FMIC I was thinking Greddy 2 row or Apexi's unit.
For the Radiator, I was thinking Koyo since it is cheap, something like 400.
For the exhaust, I was thinking about going with a Pettit downpipe and the HKS Titanium exhaust (midpipe and catback unit).
I need help deciding on the ECU. What should I do? PFC? AEM?
Also, can I get all this under my budget? Where should I shop for cheap prices?
Thanks,
Jon
fmic greddy porb better and cheaper..like 1050 from jason @ rx7 store..
koyo 395 i think is his price..i know of a few places for 375 but their in calli so u pay the extra in shiping...
ecu..well it depends on what u wana do/ where u live.
if u live west coast u have avable tuners for pfc...east coast is strugglin for the software (only xs has power excell software)
haltec is real incredible..but forget abt emissions..and u have to wire it up...no plug and play
aem looks good...but god only knows if its gonna come out, and then u have to find someone who knows how to tune it...
prob jason will get u best price on pfc...asside from people selling them on the forum here
for the exhaust, hks hiper ti..1200 either jason or tony @ http://www.rxecret7.com
also since you underbudget..feel free to sned me some $$ ill put in a good home
koyo 395 i think is his price..i know of a few places for 375 but their in calli so u pay the extra in shiping...
ecu..well it depends on what u wana do/ where u live.
if u live west coast u have avable tuners for pfc...east coast is strugglin for the software (only xs has power excell software)
haltec is real incredible..but forget abt emissions..and u have to wire it up...no plug and play
aem looks good...but god only knows if its gonna come out, and then u have to find someone who knows how to tune it...
prob jason will get u best price on pfc...asside from people selling them on the forum here
for the exhaust, hks hiper ti..1200 either jason or tony @ http://www.rxecret7.com
also since you underbudget..feel free to sned me some $$ ill put in a good home
I'm running the same mods.
Pettit DP, HKS Ti, intake, and IC (14psi boost).
I just went with the Pettit ECU. You just plug it in. No bullshit tuning. If your going single turbo or putting in more injectors then go programable. I would say the M2 ECU but they don't recommend MP.
Later, Jeff
Pettit DP, HKS Ti, intake, and IC (14psi boost).
I just went with the Pettit ECU. You just plug it in. No bullshit tuning. If your going single turbo or putting in more injectors then go programable. I would say the M2 ECU but they don't recommend MP.
Later, Jeff
Greddy FMIC- $1050
radiator-$400
Power FC-$1200
HKS Hyper Ti-$1200
HKS DP-$200
Water temp, oil pressure, boost, O2 gauge (very important)- $500-$900
bigger secondary injectors-$500
With all of this you should be able to run 14-16psi and be probably in 11's if not mid 11's. PFC I think is the best ECU. It's all plug and play and I'm sure that all the base maps that comes with the PFC runs rich. With some tuning, I think you'll make much more power. All this only equals out to less than $5500 so you might be able to get a single turbo while you're at it
radiator-$400
Power FC-$1200
HKS Hyper Ti-$1200
HKS DP-$200
Water temp, oil pressure, boost, O2 gauge (very important)- $500-$900
bigger secondary injectors-$500
With all of this you should be able to run 14-16psi and be probably in 11's if not mid 11's. PFC I think is the best ECU. It's all plug and play and I'm sure that all the base maps that comes with the PFC runs rich. With some tuning, I think you'll make much more power. All this only equals out to less than $5500 so you might be able to get a single turbo while you're at it
I would say to get the new AEM CPU comming out very soon. It should be better then the PowerFC which is the current best seller.
Also the largest core i have seen for a fmic is the Greddy Skyline core.
As for the exaust, i suggest you not get the bonez dp cuz its not that great cuz the part that hooks up to the turbos are not as low profile as a hks dp. also, if you want loud, get the HKS hiper full exaust which is a real 4 inch full exaust from the downpipe. other then that i would suggest the Apex-i GT cat-back exaust with a generic midpipe. this is still loud as hell but not as loud as a HKS hiper. i personnaly have a straight pipe exaust with a hks downpipe with a generic mid-pipe and a greddy/trust catback exaust which has a straight thru design and it is not that loud. i always hear civics with louder exaust systems.
as for the radiator, do you have a leak or something. if not, just run very little radiatorfluid to water ratio and do the fan mod which makes your fans run faster and you should be fine. get a watertemp gauge and if you run under 200, your fine!
good luck
P.S. If you don't replace your thermostat, you'll still problally run pretty hot. I know from a guy who did this, if you replace your radiator, thermostat, do the fan mod and get a vented hood and bodykit as well as take out the A/C condensor and dont get a fmic, the temp will never get above 185 degrees and he said that thats running on full boost for a long time. This is problally over kill cuz im pretty sure a rotary engine must warm up to a certin time which is around 200 degrees to function at its peak performance.
Also the largest core i have seen for a fmic is the Greddy Skyline core.
As for the exaust, i suggest you not get the bonez dp cuz its not that great cuz the part that hooks up to the turbos are not as low profile as a hks dp. also, if you want loud, get the HKS hiper full exaust which is a real 4 inch full exaust from the downpipe. other then that i would suggest the Apex-i GT cat-back exaust with a generic midpipe. this is still loud as hell but not as loud as a HKS hiper. i personnaly have a straight pipe exaust with a hks downpipe with a generic mid-pipe and a greddy/trust catback exaust which has a straight thru design and it is not that loud. i always hear civics with louder exaust systems.
as for the radiator, do you have a leak or something. if not, just run very little radiatorfluid to water ratio and do the fan mod which makes your fans run faster and you should be fine. get a watertemp gauge and if you run under 200, your fine!
good luck
P.S. If you don't replace your thermostat, you'll still problally run pretty hot. I know from a guy who did this, if you replace your radiator, thermostat, do the fan mod and get a vented hood and bodykit as well as take out the A/C condensor and dont get a fmic, the temp will never get above 185 degrees and he said that thats running on full boost for a long time. This is problally over kill cuz im pretty sure a rotary engine must warm up to a certin time which is around 200 degrees to function at its peak performance.
I agree w/ the above not including the HKS TI. I would suggest going Apex'i N1 w/ a MP and DP. My setup cost me 1200 total and I have been happy ever since. With the extra money I would suggest either upgrading your Fuel and ignition systems, body kit, or some nice rims and tires. To add to the previous list I would pick up the rear toe links and trailing arms from m2 performance. You can find these here under the suspension extension. Good luck in making power it comes easy w/ the $.
Happy Rotoring,
Ryker
Happy Rotoring,
Ryker
It sounds like you are on the right track. But be prepared for a LOUD! LOUD! LOUD! exhaust note with the exhaust setup you seek. Not good for a street car, IMHO. You'll get sick of the noise if you have to drive the car a lot. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
DP, muffled midpipe, and Racing Beat dual tip exhaust are a good combination if you want to save your hearing.
You'll probably want an intake system, too. Get a cool air system like the one from M2 if it will fit with the intercooler you select (not likely with a FMIC). Otherwise, you might want the A'PEXi FMIC since it is available with their intake system (cheaper than buying it all separately).
-Max
DP, muffled midpipe, and Racing Beat dual tip exhaust are a good combination if you want to save your hearing.You'll probably want an intake system, too. Get a cool air system like the one from M2 if it will fit with the intercooler you select (not likely with a FMIC). Otherwise, you might want the A'PEXi FMIC since it is available with their intake system (cheaper than buying it all separately).
-Max
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redtt what do u mean by 02 gauge, egt? or air/fuel?
Originally posted by RedTT
Greddy FMIC- $1050
radiator-$400
Power FC-$1200
HKS Hyper Ti-$1200
HKS DP-$200
Water temp, oil pressure, boost, O2 gauge (very important)- $500-$900
bigger secondary injectors-$500
With all of this you should be able to run 14-16psi and be probably in 11's if not mid 11's. PFC I think is the best ECU. It's all plug and play and I'm sure that all the base maps that comes with the PFC runs rich. With some tuning, I think you'll make much more power. All this only equals out to less than $5500 so you might be able to get a single turbo while you're at it
Greddy FMIC- $1050
radiator-$400
Power FC-$1200
HKS Hyper Ti-$1200
HKS DP-$200
Water temp, oil pressure, boost, O2 gauge (very important)- $500-$900
bigger secondary injectors-$500
With all of this you should be able to run 14-16psi and be probably in 11's if not mid 11's. PFC I think is the best ECU. It's all plug and play and I'm sure that all the base maps that comes with the PFC runs rich. With some tuning, I think you'll make much more power. All this only equals out to less than $5500 so you might be able to get a single turbo while you're at it
Check with optauto.com for BLITZ FMIC ($1150-1200)
RADIATOR go here http://www.absoluteradiator.com/cgi-...c9d+1007803758
BTW what you guys think about BLITZ FMIC?
RADIATOR go here http://www.absoluteradiator.com/cgi-...c9d+1007803758
BTW what you guys think about BLITZ FMIC?
you can pass emissions with the haltech, they did it in turbo, you just need a high flow cat, and a "remote" air pump, not the stock one...the single turbo rx-7 in turbo had the haltech wired to the stock ecu to maintain emissions controls..it still had over 400hp, and it passed emissions w/ 16HC(the state limit is 220) amazing! and had 0.00 CO(the limit is 1.20) at low speed. at high speed it had 33 HC and still 0.00 CO
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