silver93

I'm running H&Rs with Tokicos, and a 99 spec lip with about 5 to 5.5 inches from the ground to the bottom of the lip.

My problem is that even on minor things, like slight dips in the road, left or right turns at any decent speed - the lip scrapes the ground once, or several times. I've tried adjusting the tension on the tokicos, but doesn't really make a difference.

The bushings and other suspension pieces are pretty new, with only about 55K miles on them.

Thoughts?

Ralgh

I had the same setup. I was using the car for opentracking. I still have plastic bit that melted as the spoiler rubbed. I also had trouble with the tires hitting the top of the wheel well. I tried diffrerent bump stops but the still rubbed. I eventually went to a coilover setup with stiffer springs. Since then the lip has not rubbed.

Thunder Shift

But at the cost of some comfort

SpeedKing

iTrader: (4)

Perfectly normal. Go back to stock or swap your shocks and springs for an adjustable coilover system if it concerns you too much.

IRPerformance

iTrader: (41)

Yea, most of the aftermarket springs that lower substantially are too soft so you get rubbing issues. Also check your upper shock mounts and pring insulators if you reused them. When they get old they compress and cause the car to sit lower. If you can afford it I'd jsut get a coilover setup. It will ride better and get rid of all that rubber crap in the stock setup.

silver93

thanks -

DaleClark

iTrader: (55)

You could also go with a less agressive spring, like the Eibachs. I have NO rubbing problems at all with my setup.

I'm not willing to sacrifice scraping my car all over creation just so the car looks low - damaging the car is not a good trade off IMHO. The car rides great with the Eibachs, too - it's wife-approved .

Dale

ptrhahn

iTrader: (9)

You might be WORSE off with a less agressive spring.. if that means it has a lesser spring rate. Particularly with the eibachs that lower the front too much (and the back not enough) IMHO.

I think the poster just has to get used to the reality of a lowered car. They all rub someplace, and you've got to look out for big dips and transitions. That's why there's a plastic lip on there.

silver93

Well, I want to think it has to be something other than a fact of life. I'm not talking about doing 80 mph around a 70 degree curve or hitting huge dips in the road. I'm talking about 25-30 mph around normal dipping turns, and going up inclines into parking lots and such.

The problem seems to extreme in my case that if a lot of people suffered, there would be a lot more complaining than I've seen.

I originally put all this on because the stock shocks on my old car were worn out, and I through, well, while I'm here, I might as well do springs too. Like has been said, it might be easier to just go back to stock. what a pita.

alberto_mg

Search through the suspension section and you'll find *a lot* of people with rubbing problems running Tokicos. I think the Tokicos are the cause of your rubbing problem.

I run H&Rs with stock shocks and have absolutely no rubbing running 17x9" SSRs with 255/40/17s all around.

RX7Wishing

Tien-S Springs on my 7. I have no rubbing problems at all.

jpandes

When I switched to 18" wheels and was running Eibach Pro Kit progressive rate springs & Tokico Struts, my car would rub the top of the fender liner when I would go over dipps on the freeway.

I then switched to M2/Ground Control coil-over conversion springs and the same type Tokico Struts. The spring rates are stiff as hell at 450 lbs. and 550 lbs.

The Pros: No more rubbing & Height adjustable, the stance looks just right IMO
The Cons: Harsh ride. I miss my cushy Eibachs. It took some time to get used to them.

I also have the 99-spec lip. It only rubs when I am going up or down driveways.

jagwrjack

iTrader: (3)

I used 3 bottom spring insulators instead of one on my left front and it raised the car about 1/4" on that side. The left front sags on the FDs probably from the spot
welded and glued shock towers that they have.

silver93

Intersting - I'll keep messing with it. I'll post any decent solutions I come up with. Thanks to all for the comments...

93silverbullet

iTrader: (7)

I agree... same setup and absolutely no problems (ie. rubbing).

newdesides

I run tokico and H&R springs on a 18x8 with 235/40 tires on the front. it rubbed slightly under normal driving and really badly in autocross. i had to roll the fenders to clear and now its okay even in autocross condition. However, when i track my car at Pacific Int' Raceway, the lip of my C-West front bumper scraped a little bit under HARD brake (that's turn 3a -> 3b for those who knows the track) even with the front strut at full hard (5 i think).

So as long as you are willing to roll the two front fenders, it should be okay in all conditions.

Hope this help.

Leslie