cruiser

SMGs are slow
With those mods I think you'll take him. They are not slow cars by any means, but they can be beaten.
Good luck.

ptrhahn

iTrader: (9)

I'd love to give you some insight about how the new M3 compares to my car, but i can't because i've been turned down for six (and counting) perfectly tee'd-up street races with new M3's. I can't get these guys to race! Worst group of posers i've ever seen. I've beaten Z06's, so i'm not too worried about the BMW when someone finally engages.

redrotorR1

If you're going to do a highway pull .. and provided that everything is running good on your car, the M3 should jump on you initially up to about 70mph. Once the secondary turbo peaks, you should pull up to him and/or slightly past him through 100-110mph. From a stop, he will eat you alive. Why do I say this? Because I tried this with a regular M3 when I was still stock. It was *slightly* embarrassing.

fd3virgin

damn,,, that's expensive... should have bought mine. would have sold it for like400-500 good shape... just polished the top part of it this weekend.. took almost no time.. you should polish... btw love your rims...i want to get a front mount for my future single setup.

adam c

iTrader: (2)

You will beat him. I did. This was before I added the flywheel.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=150233

twinturboteddy

I've beat all the E46 M3's I've gone up against. All stock though.

Aristo

iTrader: (8)

Good thing about racing E46 M3s..what you see is pretty much what you get..not much in the way of performance enhancing mods. Running into a modded LS1 would worry me more.

93TTRX7

Well I raced that M3 tonight...I got beat, but barely

Check out the details here

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=175533

redrotorR1

Bikes? Ah .... no. At least not anything bigger than your average dirt bike.

artguy

tbieblockie...you should show them the gunrack in your back window.

YEE HAW!

j

jimlab

Drag coefficient or Cd is determined by dividing the force exerted on a body by the square of the speed times frontal area times the density of air, or Cd=F / ((speed2) x frontal area x d/2). The best measure of aerodynamic drag is the parameter known as the drag area (CdA, where A is the frontal area) which is expressed in units of square feet.

An average motorcycle might have a Cd of 0.59-0.60. The Hayabusa was wind tunnel tested and found to have a CdA of 3.37 ft^2. A ZX-12R was tested and found to have a CdA of 3.67 ft^2. An FD has a Cd of 0.29-0.31 depending on the model, and a frontal area of approximately 19.1 ft^2. CdA is therefore 5.54 ft^2, not that big a difference at all.

Consider that the heavier car with two drive wheels will have an easier time putting its power to the ground quickly than a lightweight motorcycle with a single drive wheel, a powerful street car can beat a motorcycle, especially if it gets the jump. At higher speeds especially, wind resistance quickly negates the advantage of the bike's power to weight ratio and a very powerful car can beat even a Hayabusa, as videos found on the Internet have shown.

YayeR

jimlab i'm impressed by your insight and knowledge of such subjects, thank you for that information.

Nathan Kwok

So your secret is driving with no hood?

ROTARYFDTT

iTrader: (4)

Dude, it'll be close, but SMGs aren't that quick. A 6speed M3 will light those up. And, uh, sorry but E46's are not set up to "have power throughout the band", it's redline is like over 8k are you kidding me. Down low they have nothing so your basically in the same ship. If you get him out of the hole, you should be able to slowly pull him. Unless he knows a lot about his SMG control unit, namely that theres like 6 different levels in each different launching setup, his auto will shift slower than you, unless he's in his most race setup level 6, which he probably doesn't know about. If you stay with him til 3rd gear, you'll prevail with your light weight and turbo highway prowess. good luck, M Power rules but you should have a good chance against an SMG

Oh, and from a highway or 2nd gear roll, don't sweat it, you got him

(this coming from a person who's driven both SMG and 6 speed, and an RX7 with the same mods, except bigger intercooler and an M2 stage 3 ecu...running 12psi

-RotaryFDTT's friend...and a Supra owner

Taking all this into consideration, you should've won, so i assume he knows how to work his launch computer...good try though, get an ecu and full exhaust and race again

artguy

HAHAHAHAH! a sense of humor in this joint...nice!



btw..tbieblockie...i never called you a redneck. You feeling self conscious or something? no one told you to put that rack back there.

j

artguy

that would be silly....I just moved here.



do you really have the same horn as the general lee?

thats the rumor going around.


j

styxx8602

I dont know how healthy your car is but my motor has about 14k miles on it...its stick shift and at the timeI had an intake downpipe and midpipe with a act clutch when i ran my friends m3. its a 2003 smg.All he had was an intake. From a 2nd gear roll at 45 mph till about 130 i beat him by about 1.5 cars. We did this several times. 5 to be exact. i remember it being a little chilly that night about 60 degrees. I know that someone will proly throw out the b.s. flag but oh well.Those are really nice cars and very fast.See how you fair with him. I did pretty good.Oh and is ur car stick or auto, sorry i didnt read the whole thread.

Andres
93 touring
intake dp mp cb act clutch

styxx8602

woops lol shouldve read the whole thread lol. A little late there eh?

artguy

styxx you need an ecu bad!

RoadRace

I think you need a solid 12 psi to run with an M3.

I have both an 02 M3 and a 3rd gen and stock or close to stock they don't compare, from a roll or a standing start the M3 is gonna take it every time. Now my single turbo makes my M3 feel like a yugo - make that a diesel Yugo.

As for blowing motors the edge go's to the Rx7 but just barely. I'm on my second M3 motor and my third rotary.

M3 motor problems link [url]http://members.roadfly.org/jason/m3engines.htm

93TTRX7

I don't think I need 12 lbs of boost to beat him...i think maybe a high flow cat and a boost controller set to 10 lbs will be more than enough...

israel

iTrader: (3)

there are tuning companies (Dinan comes to mind) that make aftermarket stuff for BMW's, superchargers and such. now don't get me wrong, i agree it's more likely to run into a modded LS1 than a modded M3, but don't rule it out altogether

ttb

i don't consider this a design defect....anybody can put a big v8 in to make power, nothing special about that.

jimlab

Well hell, anyone could throw a 6,000+ horsepower 500 CID supercharged engine in a dragster, nothing special about that. Except that they're the quickest cars on the planet...

Well hell, anyone could throw a nitromethane injected big block in a streamliner, nothing special about that. Except that they're the fastest wheel-driven cars on the planet...

Well hell, anyone could throw a 20B in an RX-7, nothing special about that... Hey this is fun! I think I'm getting the hang of it!

So anyone who isn't doing what you believe to be correct isn't doing "anything special"? You have a remarkably high opinion of yourself, it seems.

ttb

the guy said that it's a design DEFECT to use a smaller engine to make power while not using an available V8. i have to disagree, and yea, it's my opinion. don't get your v8 panties all in a bunch.