unseen4life

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has anyone here ever heard of godspeed or have a godspeed intercooler. i found a v-mount godspeed intercooler but wondering if its a alright brand

liv4psi

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They are commonly referred to as an ebay brand. Ebay intercoolers are tried and true. You will be fine.

fendamonky

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How do you figure that.... ?

liv4psi

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I thought the only place I remember seeing them was on ebay. Maybe there is a brand on ebay with a similar name. I was just stating that alot of people use 'ebay brand' intercoolers and are happy with their performance.

fendamonky

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So... you're not really sure. You think you remember seeing it as an ebay brand.

What constitutes "alot of people"??

Personally I refuse to touch "ebay brand" items. Anybody can throw together a product and sell it on ebay. To state that "ebay brand" products are "tried and true" is probably not completely accurate.

"Tried and true": That's just the thing, quality name brand items are tested, and they (large brands) have put a large amount of resources into research and development to ensure the product they release is exactly what they advertise it as. Ebay brands are knockoffs, and I doubt they will universally operate to this standard. I should think the price difference would be seen as the first indication of this..

Just because a product looks the same, doesn't mean it is the same.


Just my $.02

liv4psi

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I double checked, yes it was the brand I was referring to. I, for one, have personally used 'ebay' intercoolers. I have also used name brand ones. No difference.

Alot of 'ebay' parts have a bad reputation and rightfully so. Intercoolers on the other hand, not one of those products.

I have seen threads on mulitple forums with thousands of posts concerning 'ebay' intercoolers (dsmtuners.com, turbomiata.net) . There have been plenty on here even. They have been tested and work just as well. The main difference is you can't say a cool name like Greddy when you are naming off your mod list. I guess you are one of those people that finds that important.

If you have never used a product before, your opinion is just speculation. That seems ironic, since that was the main reason for you to flame my post, my speculation.

Sarusanj

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I wouldn't generalize it that much. There are some crap intercoolers out there using pot metal end tanks and such. However you are right in there being "lots of people" using ebay intercoolers and being perfectly fine. It's one of those parts that you can get away with going ebay on and having it serve the same as if you paid 1000 for a brand name intercooler, if you choose carefully. Godspeed is one of those higher end ebay brands.

fendamonky

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meh, to each their own...

Though yes, you def pegged me on being one of those shallow, materialistic, types who likes to rattle off big names when it comes to a mod list (as you can tell by my signature line)..

Or... I could just be one of those people who prefers quality over quantity, and would rather not risk anything by cutting corners on main components.

liv4psi

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Glad we can agree to disagree, sorry for the materialistic comment.

To the op, sorry for bickering in your thread. Fendamonkey and I did a good job though at showing the two different perspectives. Neither of us are wrong. As I stated, it will work, and you should be happy. I have been. As Fendamonkey stated, no it's not the same quality and say Blitz, Apexi, Greddy, etc. You just need to figure out if the difference is worth the price jump.

staticguitar313

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I'm extremely tired of this "its an ebay intercooler so it must suck" crap. I am GLAD i'm not the moron who dropped the $700 for the SR Motorsports intercooler in my car. For around $450 and some handy work with common tools you can replicate the Pettit Coolcharge III (including purchasing their duct) which costs $1450, is anyone else tired of paying rediculous parts price premiums? You should be. An intercooler is not a complex or precision piece of equipment, it just has to do its job properly. So as long as its not welded together by Daisy the welding gorilla I don't give a flying **** who makes it.

liv4psi

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I have learned alot about 'ebay' parts from my own trial and error Rule 1, as long as they don't have any moving parts, you should be okay. Rule 2, as posted above, be prepared to do some handy work. Rule 3, no body kits, period, ever.

I figured I might as well add that I just put my Apexi front mount intercooler on ebay for sale. Why? So I could by one of those junk ebay brands. I must be out of my f'ing mind.

Conv.WS6

this thread is great btw. It's been a while since I've been on the forum but I built my intercooler kit from ebay parts and as long as you are somewhat mechanically inclined you can figure it out. Summit racing/Jegs sells 3 inch stainless steel hooker J bends and your local NAPA sells 3 inch silicone hose. From that you can pretty much pipe anything anywhere and do the job. Save yourself a grand or so. Greddy, Apexi, etc make some nice follow the instructions kits too and it's all relative to the money you have to spend on mods.
good luck either way.

Montego

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If it's the one I'm thinking it's no v-mount. It's really a SMIC that is unless you are prepared to manufacture EVERYTHING to make it one.

I have a godspeed SMIC (same size as the pettit cool charge III, m2 large, PFS Race IC) and I it's fine for my application. I have recently converted to a GT35R (15 psi) from the stock twins/PFS SMIC combo (12 psi). My intake temps are lower with my new setup and they drop quicker at cruise, granted it's apples to oranges given I changed out my turbos and replaced with a more efficient one. But the point is that for street/spirited driving this IC is working rather well.


One last thing YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DUCT!

M-

darkside7

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Have you really pressure the both ebay and name brand ic???? what were the numbers? How can you tell there were no difference? What are you basing you opinion on?

classicauto

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Although its not an FD, I'm using a Godspeed IC for an FD in my 2nd gen.

Puts down 380whp.

Intercooler works well. Doesn't leak. Wasn't a gazillion dollars.

As I raise the boost I believe it'll start reaching max effciency around the 450whp mark.

End of discussion.

liv4psi

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They were on the same car, with the same mods. I didn't have it dynoed or pressure test the intercoolers, but both setups made it to the strip. No difference in time.

I wasn't saying that they all perform the same. I was just stating that the difference is marginal at best.

jonnyrx7

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godspeed is at SEMA every year & superstreet. Thats legit enough for me

7syawedis

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i never touch them, but i did put fake greddy pulleys on my fd and they seem ok. +89485943875 on no moving parts though. be smart on where you cheap out.

i was actually checking out a godspeed radiator for a project i might be picking up but it was 150 but i would rather just go 350 for a koyo for peace of mind...

my friend made 470whp with a few ebay parts including intercooler in an rb25. ive seen people on here do some nice things with them

dradon03

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What is ridiculous? 6,000$ For a V-Mount setup maybe, 1,000$ for an intercooler hardly.

After all the people run the originators out of the business what will be left? Ebay companies copying products from 10 years ago? or people will be forced to fab their own mods in a way bringing the "tuning" industry back to what it was 20 years ago.

Anyone can reverse engineer something but I believe there is something to be said for the creators and originators who have put in some serious hours to develop original products and parts.

But hey maybe PFS and Pettit did this to Kevin W. way back when....

Also there is something to be said for a product which you can but and is complete.

Miata_mx5

There are other **** made outsourced intercoolers at SEMA too. SEMA for the most part has become more of a ricerfest more than anything.

OP: Do your homework, on what is a good intercooler and what is not. Greddy M-Spec intercoolers use crappy, heavy, bar and plate cores with the same efficiency as a refrigerator heat exchanger. (Probably why greddy stopped selling it and made something new).

Price isn't everything either. Most ebay stuff belongs in the trashcan. People act like they discovered something new when finding some cheapo ebay intercooler that they claim "works". Reason why well built cars don't run that is because they know better and won't risk a well built engine for weak links here and there (it has been proven over and over and over again that parts with R&D behind them work, and ebay **** doesn't). Maybe ebay should include some new coilovers to adjust your suspension for the 40-50 lb ebay intercooler weight in the front.

liv4psi

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They aren't any heavier. At least not by an amount you can feel when holding them. I have an Apexi core for my FD, and a SSAC on my DSM. I am tempted to pull them off and weigh them. The SSAC core is bigger so it should weigh more, but I bet it's not by much.

Miata_mx5

Depends on the size of the core, whether it's fin and tube or bar and plate, and the design too. Bar and Plates are always heavier due to their design.

SSAC is known for having heat soak issues after 1 or 2 dyno passes and blowing off endtanks at high boost. At least in the Supra and GT-R community it has. If a product does not stand up to the stresses of a high performance application, then I don't want it. And in the end, i have seen over 2-3 bars of boost (over 1100 whp applications) pushed through APEXi and HKS Intercooler cores and I have yet to see them blow endtanks or suffer from heatsoak.

But, everyone has their own car and can choose to do what they want. I stopped caring a while back.

http://mysilvia.de/files/store/Artic..._Test_FMIC.pdf

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=73

muibubbles

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this might be the dumbest post i have ever read. you bash on the "ebay" intercooler because it belongs in a "trash can" and you praise all the well known brands because all the time and testing and blah blah blah has been put into "perfecting it" yet your advice to the OP is about how the GREDDY intercooler sucks.... go figure.

i dont believe in ebay parts, but if its a non moving part, why not? really, how man ways is there really to make an intercooler? i highly doubt there isnt a huge difference in performance to make the 1000 intercoolers worth buying. but each to his own i guess

Miata_mx5

Re-read what i posted again.

OP: Please go buy whatever intercooler you want.

knghtryde

I know this is an old post, but its funny how things change. Godspeed is being used more and more and although they are an "ebay" brand, many shops (Where I live) carry them in their show rooms and recommend them.

I had a lot of Godspeed items on my Turbo II and honestly they worked great and without issue.

Everyone blasts, but the honest truth is that every company starts some where and when they start they have to be able to under cost the well known companies to get people to buy from them.

Do you think HKS, Greedy, etc. started off as a well known company. Difference is there was no ebay when they started.

And on a final note, I see HKS, Greedy, etc products all over Ebay as well. So what is an Ebay brand? Ebay is just a market place to sell almost anything.