3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

fuel pump test question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:51 PM
  #1  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
fuel pump test question

i need to test my fuel pump and want to give it voltage directly, but without taking it out yet, anyone know the leads on the fuel pump plug that I need to give voltage to?

the manual lables the leads a,b,c,d...with a,b, on the bottom, and c,d on the top...d above a and c above b

so like this if you are looking in the plug...

d - c
a - b


This is the plug on the tank, not going to the tank.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:56 PM
  #2  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
according to what i just saw in teh woring diag, its a and c that i want to give voltage to, sound right?
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:12 PM
  #3  
cavellm's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Fuel pump pos is red/white, and negative is black.

The green? and little blue wires are for the fuel level sensor.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:23 PM
  #4  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
thanks cavellm, i read your thread about your pump going south... did you get it all fixed up?

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...5&pagenumber=2
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:31 PM
  #5  
Fritz Flynn's Avatar
All out Track Freak!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (263)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 10,672
Likes: 413
From: Charlottesville VA 22901
why not use the diagnostic box?
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:39 PM
  #6  
cavellm's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Unfortunately not. It ran last night after unplugging and plugging back in the connector on the bottom side of the tank cover. Unflooded it and boom, ran for 20 minutes. Started and stopped it twice more.

Changed my oil, then combusted a little but died a few seconds later.

This morning tried unflooding it with no success. Took out the pump yet again and found its not getting power again. I can trace the power to the bottom side harness on the cover, but not to the terminals. Fucked up thing is its the same on two different fuel pump assemblies.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:47 PM
  #7  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
Originally posted by Fritz Flynn
why not use the diagnostic box?
i did use it for the first test, then i wanted to check the pump directly in case it was the harness/connectors.....
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:50 PM
  #8  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
i found that the pump is gettin power an I hear it running....

.. but my fuel pressure gauge reads no pressure when the diag terminal is tapped to keep the pump on...

now im going to pull a hose and run the pump to see if its pushing any fuel anywhere...
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:24 PM
  #9  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
tested pump, it flows just fine from what i could tell, jumped the FP at the diag terminal, turned key to on position, and the pump started flowing a pretty solid stream....

maybe the fuel pressure gauge dosnt read until the car is running?
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 07:04 PM
  #10  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
decided to put it all back together since the pump was pushing fuel....

re-installed a plug I had out for testing, put pukmp connectors back and .... started right up ...

hehehe, these machines are an enigma

im guess a plug got loose and I re-attached it during testing...who knows....
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 07:43 PM
  #11  
cavellm's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,118
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Wish mine was an easy fix like that
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 07:58 PM
  #12  
damian's Avatar
Thread Starter
DDH Motorsports
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,256
Likes: 21
From: Minnesota
:-) yeah, good luck to you...
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 11:15 PM
  #13  
J.S.J's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, California
I am not a Mazda expert, but I am a fuel injection expert.
I didn't read the hole set of threads real close, however this is a fuel injected engine and the injectors must be pulsed by the engine computer. No pulse no fuel. Since you are getting spark this tells us the crank sensor is sending a signal up to the ignition system but since I don't know Mazda I can't say how the chain of events transpires. Most cars I have worked on will have spark even if the engine computer is unplugged, so this may not be a fuel pump issue. Normally the injectors are powered up and the engine computer grounds the circuit so connecting a test light in place of one of the injectors would tell you if a signal is being transfered.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2004 | 12:21 AM
  #14  
mad_7tist's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 0
From: tampa
/\ what ever you do do not put a test light anywhere near the fuel injectors. it is a bad idea even if it is a high impedence snap on one. use a noid. who wants to be the one guy whos ecu gets burned
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Queppa
New Member RX-7 Technical
11
Nov 18, 2024 03:47 AM
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
Jul 1, 2023 04:40 PM
LunchboxSA22
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
37
Oct 26, 2015 10:53 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03 AM.