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Old 05-09-08, 05:00 AM
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Front cover gasket... use dry?

I just read through 20 posts and have not found anyone come to a conclusion whether or not to use a sealant along with the paper gasket, or to just use it dry. The FSM makes no mention of sealant, however i know the paper front covers are prone to leak. The FSM does mention to use some petroleum jelly on the oring/teflon ring however. anyway, what are your thoughts? im doing this in a few hours so i need to make a decision lol.

(and yes i know there is a metal gasket, i wish i had time to wait for it but i didnt)
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oh on a side note im also doing the oil pan tomorrow. i was baffled by the THOUSANDS of seemingly identical gasket makers. there were minor differences between them all (most notably the color). after staring/comparing for literally 15 minutes i just became frustrated, picked this one, and left. (i had a similar experience in the drug store trying to pick out toothpaste the other day... an entire AISLE devoted to nothing but toothpaste, yet somehow i cant find a "fresh-breath, cleaning, tarter fighting, whitening, and whatever else toothpaste can do" tube.) we dont need this many choices, i just want a tube next to the toothbrushes labeled TOOTHPASTE!

**** it, im brushing with this:
anyway will this one do the job for the pan? -Heath

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I used this stuff

[img]https://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-18652426524478_1999_17382900[\img]

Permatex Gasket Tack

on mine. Works great. I also use it on any paper gaskets, rotary or not. Just a light film on both sides. Keeps the gasket where you want it during installation, and doesnt become a pain in the *** to remove later on. You could use RTV, its not going to hurt anything, but its not needed and will be a pain in the *** later on.
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If you can get your hands on one of the mazda metal front cover gaskets, I recommend using them. I think I have a few in stock, not sure if you need it immediately or not.

Re: the oil pan, right stuff silicone, no gasket. Use with oil pan reinforcement brace and moroso stud kit.
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Permatex "the Right Stuff" is what you use on the front gasket and oil pan gasket. And any other gasket that seals against oil.


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Sometimes I have trouble finding the permatex. Soo I have been using HondaBond HT for the last 5 years on my engines and love it. ( I am a Motorcycle tech by trade,. so i use it all the time in my work. So I have free access to it. As it can get pricey.
Just FYI in case you cannot find the "right stuff" Permatex

And NO gasket on the oil pan. I've done it both with and with out and Don't see the need to spend extra money for it.( I have had a succesfull seal BOTH with and withoiut a gasket for sake of argument.)



Be carefull with Petroleum Jelly and O'rings. The 2 don't play well together Again I dab some HB HT to keep it in place. Crisco works well also.

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Originally Posted by BigIslandSevens
Sometimes I have trouble finding the permatex. Soo I have been using HondaBond HT for the last 5 years on my engines and love it. ( I am a Motorcycle tech by trade,. so i use it all the time in my work. So I have free access to it. As it can get pricey.
Just FYI in case you cannot find the "right stuff" Permatex

And NO gasket on the oil pan. I've done it both with and with out and Don't see the need to spend extra money for it.( I have had a succesfull seal BOTH with and withoiut a gasket for sake of argument.)



Be carefull with Petroleum Jelly and O'rings. The 2 don't play well together Again I dab some HB HT to keep it in place. Crisco works well also.

Dave
crisco really? is it just to hold the oring in place while everything gets torqued down?

thanks everyone for suggestions... im gonna tackle this later today when i get home. -heath
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