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Old 02-22-10, 11:20 AM
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First Start Video and pics

Here are some pics and a video. Couldn't let it run past 8 minutes because Liquid Wrench smoke was getting in house. Had to do everything in small townhouse garage. Tried to keep this work quiet from townhouse neighbors and association. Therefore, I was doing the start at 12am last night(Sunday 2/21).

Had no leaks or flash codes. Problem was that after running the engine the OMP lines were still white. They looked like there wasn't any oil going through them. Maybe I'm just not seeing any color in the lines because the oil is new. Obviously, I have the OMP bolted and plugged in. Are there certain times that the OMP runs and doesn't? The FSM doesn't give any ways of testing the metering pump. Maybe I should just unbolt the oil lines of the metering pump and see if there is anything in them.

Thanks for answering all my questions,
Keith
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Man, you're one tough cookie to do an engine swap in a tiny garage! That's zero fun!

It does take a little for the oil to work its way up the lines. If you'd like some extra peace of mind, put a little 2-stroke oil in the tank to premix along with the OMP. Most people do 1 oz of premix per gallon when not using the OMP, but I'd go ahead and mix to that ratio even though you're running the OMP. That will give some extra startup lubrication and make sure everything's good.

Nothing like the feeling of having the motor crank over and run after all that work!

You will get quite a bit of smoke from the motor for a while after first starting. Dirty handprints on things, oil from the assembly process inside the engine, dust and such on hot parts - it all adds up to a good amount of smoke for a while.

Looks like you've done a good job there. Just keep checking things, any small bugs will crop up within the first week of starting. Keep a sharp eye out for any leaks, and make TRIPLE sure you're not leaking fuel anywhere.

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congrats man! was that your first try at starting it?
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Originally Posted by KKMpunkrock2011
congrats man! was that your first try at starting it?
First intentional try. It ran on the little bit of fuel in the lines when I cranked for oil pressure. I forgot to unplug the ignitor plug before cranking. It only ran a quarter second.
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Congrats, can't wait til I'm ready to start mine. Hopefully be ready for DGRR X.
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Nice captured moment, what a coincident I happen to do the same thing this past saturday night and it felt great and I took 2 shoot's of Patron XO Cafe to captured the moment, but after watching your starup video, I should invest into damn video cam to capture the moment because you can always replay the moment. Btw what is your oil pressure reading at? Also I noticed u did not hook up everything? I did not take chance I just installed everything except for my under tray.
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Congrats on a sucessful install and start up.
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Awesome and congratulations.

A while back I was fortunate enough to have Dale Clark and the fine folks at Fighters Garage rebuild my engine. It put out so much smoke on its first run that we didn't have any mosquitoes in my neighborhood for 3 days. After about thirty minutes of running she purred like a kitten.
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Originally Posted by Rx7aholic
Nice captured moment, what a coincident I happen to do the same thing this past saturday night and it felt great and I took 2 shoot's of Patron XO Cafe to captured the moment, but after watching your starup video, I should invest into damn video cam to capture the moment because you can always replay the moment. Btw what is your oil pressure reading at? Also I noticed u did not hook up everything? I did not take chance I just installed everything except for my under tray.
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I saw all the videos showing cars belching out white smoke on initial startup. Mine didn't. Malloy Mazda said it's factory new. It's certainly looks new. While I had it on the engine stand I turned it one way and another to work on it. Alittle oil came out of the oil ports. Clean but but real smelly antifreeze came out of the hose connections. When I looked into the spark plug holes with a bright light I could see new rotors with just a speck of discoloration on them. Looks to me like this engine was run at the factory to test it.

As far as breakin goes I'm thinking about propping open the wastegate.
I didn't look at my oil pressure. I'll do that tonight.

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great work man and congrats! and props for working in that tiny lil space
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You don't really need to prop open the wastegate. I think you're on the factory boost control - just unplug the two boost control solenoids. They're the ones bolted to the upper intake manifold just behind the Y-pipe. With those unplugged, the turbos will spool up slower, and just keep your foot out of it.

If you open the wastegates, the car will be quite a bit louder driving around. Really no reason to do it.

Man, I'd LOVE to have one of those factory new motors!

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Whoa, thanks. I'll definitely unplug the plugs to those to green solenoids. I would've had to detach the wastegate actuator arm. I didn't like the idea of having it hanging loose.


Originally Posted by Rx7aholic
Nice captured moment, what a coincident I happen to do the same thing this past saturday night and it felt great and I took 2 shoot's of Patron XO Cafe to captured the moment, but after watching your starup video, I should invest into damn video cam to capture the moment because you can always replay the moment. Btw what is your oil pressure reading at? Also I noticed u did not hook up everything? I did not take chance I just installed everything except for my under tray.
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I just have a cheap digital camera with a movie button. I guess that makes it a digital cam. I hung it over my halogen light. On other threads on this web site I read that you should video you "first start". It gives home mechanics some hope during these expensive projects.

I had the intake and intercooler removed because other first start videos show them removed. I didn't need the intercooler, or intake in the garage. I just made sure nothing would get sucked in to the intake tubes.


I wouldn't have attempted this project without:
Bruce Turrentine Engine R&R video,
This web site,
Dave Barningers E-mail address: kdrotary@ptd.net
Malloy Mazda's low OEM prices.

The searches on this web page answered so many specific questions. For example, how to engage the throw out bearing to the clutch, the bolt size for that lower/rear bolt on M2 downpipes, how to break in an engine, why and how you port a wastegate, the purpose of pinch nuts...

Thanks again,
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Originally Posted by millennm
Whoa, thanks. I'll definitely unplug the plugs to those to green solenoids. I would've had to detach the wastegate actuator arm. I didn't like the idea of having it hanging loose.




I just have a cheap digital camera with a movie button. I guess that makes it a digital cam. I hung it over my halogen light. On other threads on this web site I read that you should video you "first start". It gives home mechanics some hope during these expensive projects.

I had the intake and intercooler removed because other first start videos show them removed. I didn't need the intercooler, or intake in the garage. I just made sure nothing would get sucked in to the intake tubes.


I wouldn't have attempted this project without:
Bruce Turrentine Engine R&R video,
This web site,
Dave Barningers E-mail address: kdrotary@ptd.net
Malloy Mazda's low OEM prices.

The searches on this web page answered so many specific questions. For example, how to engage the throw out bearing to the clutch, the bolt size for that lower/rear bolt on M2 downpipes, how to break in an engine, why and how you port a wastegate, the purpose of pinch nuts...>

Thanks again,
pinch nuts...>
I hear you on that especiality if it's one man show it's hard is just that u need allot of patience which I don't have much.
Btw what grade oil r u using?
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I didn't realize that pinch nuts turn the studs into the engine at the right torque. I just reused any that survived being turned off of their studs. Unfortunately, I tapped a few to clean them up. That caused them to lose their pinch. $6 each for new pinch nuts from Malloy Mazda. Call me ****.

It's cold in NJ I'm using Quaker State 10W-30 . I cranked the engine 3 times for 10-15 seconds to build oil pressure.
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
You don't really need to prop open the wastegate. I think you're on the factory boost control - just unplug the two boost control solenoids. They're the ones bolted to the upper intake manifold just behind the Y-pipe. With those unplugged, the turbos will spool up slower, and just keep your foot out of it.

If you open the wastegates, the car will be quite a bit louder driving around. Really no reason to do it.

Dale
Dale, will unplugging the precontrol and wastegate solenoids cause the ECU to throw codes? Just curious.

Thanks,
Keith
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