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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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Feed engine torque brace - anyone tried it (or similar)

Has anyone tried one of the suspension style engine torque braces like this one:


If so, does it resonate (make a loud vibrating sound) - especially at idle?

.. looking for alternatives for my solid torque brace that's annoyingly loud at idle.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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that looks like at nice brace. anyone know the price ?
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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HPI has a similar torque brace, and is probably cheaper.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Yeah! As soon as I get my FD back I am going to do a custom mod like this with a gas shock probably from a gas shock from a hood/hatch prop. Ill keep y'all posted.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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I am about to order one of those and can let you know later. JT-Imports has it for like $205

I would assume it would take alot of vibration out.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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careful..some of the JDM braces will not fit our cars in the states...atleast this is what I have heard....
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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Wanted it but haven't bought it yet

Laujesse can get you the HPI
I haven't ordered it cause I can only slice my check in so many little peices.

Was tempted to get the solid one since it's cheaper. Maybe the damping one is worth the extra cash?
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Wanted it but haven't bought it yet

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Laujesse can get you the HPI
I haven't ordered it cause I can only slice my check in so many little peices.

Was tempted to get the solid one since it's cheaper. Maybe the damping one is worth the extra cash?
it' only worth the cash if it doesn't resonate. if it does, then the solid one is just as good, if not better.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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they are selling them at the rx7store store now

http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=209&1=339&3=613
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Ok, Im not going trying to promote anything...

I am going to tell you though the shock abosorber torque brace is SWEET. I have had it for almost 2 years now. I have a picture in the gallery of my car with it. Granted my car is J-Spec. I have sold a couple of these, but since buyers names are private, I cant tell you who. Maybe if they want the can tell you how it fits and all that. I asked one of the buyers of the torque brace and I asked if there was any problems with installation of the parts and he said nope... SO I guess it fits ok...

I have heard around on the forums though, that some people had to do slight moddifications to make it fit, like an extra washer and small stuff like that.

HOWEVER haha RE-Amemiya told me it wont fit, because they have a couple US spec cars. They maybe told me that because they dont sell them, but they are straight shooters so, I just guess its up to you to decide. I just wanted to throw out that info, for you guys to ponder.

BUT!!! if it doesnt fit.. Also you dont want to mess with it, I will give you a full refund, I only ask that you pay for the return shipping...

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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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Here is the picture of the Torque brace.....
This one is almost exact to the FEED torque
brace. All are pretty much the same, with the
same costs..
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 05:19 AM
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canman6969: yeah, your ABS controller is on the other side... it looks like there would be some fitment issues on US spec cars (the solid brace just barely fits between two of the hard pipes on the ABS controller - and it appears to be quite a bit skinnier than the shock type brace). Thanks for the pic.

few more questions for you:
does yours make any sort of vibrating sound? in other words, do you hear it rattle (at any rpm range)?

does it pre-load the (LHD) driver's side - i.e. the shock is compressed? or is it neutral?

are there rubber gromets between the mounting bracket and the fender or does it bolt straight to the fender?

do you have any idea of the modifications required to get this thing to fit? Doesn't there exist a brace that attaches at different locations?

KZ1: the one at the RX7 store is the one I have and am not happy with.

sorry for the flood of questions, but I figure that other will benefit it's out here in public.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by BrianK
canman6969: yeah, your ABS controller is on the other side... it looks like there would be some fitment issues on US spec cars (the solid brace just barely fits between two of the hard pipes on the ABS controller - and it appears to be quite a bit skinnier than the shock type brace). Thanks for the pic.

few more questions for you:
does yours make any sort of vibrating sound? in other words, do you hear it rattle (at any rpm range)?

does it pre-load the (LHD) driver's side - i.e. the shock is compressed? or is it neutral?

are there rubber gromets between the mounting bracket and the fender or does it bolt straight to the fender?

do you have any idea of the modifications required to get this thing to fit? Doesn't there exist a brace that attaches at different locations?

KZ1: the one at the RX7 store is the one I have and am not happy with.

sorry for the flood of questions, but I figure that other will benefit it's out here in public.
No problem BrianK,
The thing is I have sold a couple of them to american spec cars and had no complaints. I dont know if they dont want to say or if they actually work. Someone a while back had a picture of one on a US spec FD and he said he put some washers on it somewhere and it fit fine.
I get no vibrations at all... I was totally amazed when I first bought it, I originally bought it because I didnt want to poke any holes or put cracks in my intercooler piping, I figured it would work to keep the engine from moving and DAMN it did.
There are no rubber parts. I believe its where your cruise control would be there is a plug near the firewall next to the right fender, and it bolts right to it with 2 bolts, and 2 bolts on the engine. Its actually really basic, I will try to get on of the buyers on here to answer any questions...
Its only available for that one location, HOWEVER there are others that either bolt to the alternator and the strut bar and a few other places, but those are all solid braces. I dont know of any other locations for the FD shock absorber...

Hope that helps
Jason
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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I have the HPI torque brace with the shock. It does intefer with the US spec ABS unit. I added a few washers between the bracked on the UIM and the shock rod and it was perfect!

I have no real driving impressions as far as vibration because I am using solid motor mounts, and I'm sure the vibration i get is because of the motor mounts.

I'll have pics at the end of this week when my new motor is installed, if anyone is intrested..

Roan
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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i've had both the solid one and the damper one(HPI). the solid one will make a loud viberating sound ONLY when you are busting corners and launching hard. I guess that's why they design one with the shock on it to minimum the viberating. spend a few more dollars and get the HPI. it's well worth it.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 02:18 AM
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My friend had the Knightsports one on his US spec FD. IT fit perfectly but the problem was that there was no shock absorber like the FEED one has. The good thing about it was that the engine remained intact and you will virtually never ever mishift again and shifting feels so much more stable. However because there was no shock absorber (it looked like Rikki's), he cracked parts of the inside of his Engine bay within a few months.

BTW, anyone have a link for HPI? i'm definitely interested if the price is right.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 03:02 AM
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I am deffinately interested... Does it smell like Group Buy in here or is it just me?

...If not I'll buy one from JT's
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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I am also interested....
Hey SPEED_NYC, can post some pics of the area you needed to adapt with washers in order to get it to fit a US spec car.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by 1FooknTiteFD
My friend had the Knightsports one on his US spec FD. IT fit perfectly but the problem was that there was no shock absorber like the FEED one has. The good thing about it was that the engine remained intact and you will virtually never ever mishift again and shifting feels so much more stable. However because there was no shock absorber (it looked like Rikki's), he cracked parts of the inside of his Engine bay within a few months.

BTW, anyone have a link for HPI? i'm definitely interested if the price is right.
go toh http://www.Bozzperformance.com they sell the HPI there.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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so what's the deal with the little shock thing? I mean, I understand the idea of the engine torque brace, but what's the advantage of the shock over something that's solid? It seems that some people are having trouble with stuff cracking (stress cracks, I'd imagine) with the solid brace, but with the shock type, how much play is there and how do you benefit from it if there's much at all (enough to prevent cracking of various stuff)?

It just seems that there'd be very little benefit from a shock-type brace if there's much play, and that the solid brace would be more for some kind of short-term application where cracking of components isn't something you're concerned with. I dunno...

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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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SO is there goign to be a group buy or what? The feed is nice.. did someone say they were around 200?

I would be IN for one.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by SanJoRX7
so what's the deal with the little shock thing? I mean, I understand the idea of the engine torque brace, but what's the advantage of the shock over something that's solid? It seems that some people are having trouble with stuff cracking (stress cracks, I'd imagine) with the solid brace, but with the shock type, how much play is there and how do you benefit from it if there's much at all (enough to prevent cracking of various stuff)?

It just seems that there'd be very little benefit from a shock-type brace if there's much play, and that the solid brace would be more for some kind of short-term application where cracking of components isn't something you're concerned with. I dunno...
There have been several people that have run the solid brace for years with no cracking... cracking really isn't the issue. The issue is that it's not a short-term application (usually)... Most people install them and leave them on because it really does make a difference in the way the car feels that you notice as soon as you turn the key. I would like to have mine in all the time, but can't deal with the vibrating sound that it makes at idle - the solid brace rattles more than a vw bug when you're sitting at a traffic light. So, that's why I was asking if anyone has used the dampened style, and if it rattles at any time.

edit: this is the issue for me, some people may be interested in cracking. That said, there have been people running the solid brace for years without cracking.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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so what's the deal with the little shock thing? I mean, I understand the idea of the engine torque brace, but what's the advantage of the shock over something that's solid? It seems that some people are having trouble with stuff cracking (stress cracks, I'd imagine) with the solid brace, but with the shock type, how much play is there and how do you benefit from it if there's much at all (enough to prevent cracking of various stuff)?
The shock is there to protect the frame and engine bay so that it doesn't crack under heavy load. The Knight sports one my friend had did not have a shock absorber on it and within a few months cracked the frame in his engine bay.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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Cool Here's some answers

BTW: Laujesse can get the HPI and Canman69 can get the Feed version and are both the same price (suprising), which makes me wonder if Feed's is really just a rebadged HPI.

There is no doudbt in my mind the shock version is better, since I had a steering damper on my Suzuki GSXR but I wonder how long it will last before it gets worn out.

Anyhow click link below...
http://reganrotaryracing.tripod.com/powrbar.htm
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