FD3S Non-Turbo
02-12-04, 02:48 PM
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FD3S Non-Turbo
Hi,
I've got a 3rd gen with a rebuilt motor and in need of 2 new turbos. I would like to turn this into a non-turbo car (don't worry I can use my other 3rd gen as my toy).
I have heard from word of mouth that this has been done with the 13B-REW, i would rather not do an engine swap for the 13b if i don't have to.
Thank you for your time.
Tony
I've got a 3rd gen with a rebuilt motor and in need of 2 new turbos. I would like to turn this into a non-turbo car (don't worry I can use my other 3rd gen as my toy).
I have heard from word of mouth that this has been done with the 13B-REW, i would rather not do an engine swap for the 13b if i don't have to.
Thank you for your time.
Tony
02-12-04, 03:00 PM
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I would imagine you would need a totally new ECU, basically your looking at a lot more of an expense to make the car non-turbo than it would be to just have the turbos rebuilt.
02-12-04, 03:01 PM
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Take the turbos and all other related hardware off, put on an NA Header and get some engine mangement that can be programmed for decent NA maps and you'll be done. It'll be a huge waste of money though, there's really no point to it as you'll just lose power throughout the entire powerband and spend money to get there.
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02-12-04, 03:20 PM
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It'll be more expensive to turn the 13B-REW into a non-turbo motor instead of rebuilding the turbos....WOW!
It'll be more expensive to turn the 13B-REW into a non-turbo motor instead of rebuilding the turbos....WOW!
02-12-04, 03:20 PM
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there is a guy in the "parts for sale" forum selling some stock turbos.
he's asking 275
get some pics from him and keep the damn thing turbo!!!
*OR*
SELL ME YOUR CAR BECAUSE I NEED ANOTHER 3RD GEN TO PLAY WITH.
he's asking 275
get some pics from him and keep the damn thing turbo!!!
*OR*
SELL ME YOUR CAR BECAUSE I NEED ANOTHER 3RD GEN TO PLAY WITH.
02-12-04, 03:23 PM
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Your best bet would to just buy a FC N/A Engine, and get the ECU and wiring harness. It would probably be pretty easy, just dont know the logic in doing it unless your shooting for reliability factors. Which then, I guess is somwhat understandable, other than the fact your making a discgrace of the amazing engineering and improvements that went into the design of the FD.
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02-12-04, 03:50 PM
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The FC engine mounts aren't in the right place to go into the FD, and the FC ecu would not plug up to the FD harness. If you were looking for a temporary way to drive your car around NA till you got some money, you could possibly put a modified racing beat header on the FD, but then you'd have to cap off or loop the oil feed/return and coolant feed/return lines. The car would run on the stock ecu, but it would be slow as ****. You could buy a programable ecu and tune it NA, but it would still be slow as ****. If your only problem is turbos, get a used pair, or get them rebuilt. If you have more problems than that, then sell the car.
02-12-04, 04:20 PM
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The NA FCs weigh a lot less than an FD does, hence even with the same power, the FD would be slower. Seriously dude, you need to really consider what you are thinking about doing. If you are hurting for cash, then sell the car, if you are trying to have a "Reliable" FD, then put a V8 in it, if you are trying to be different, then do it with a cheaper car.
02-12-04, 05:51 PM
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just buy a honda its cheaper
if you want it "reliable"...leave it stock it wont break!!!
just to give you an idea ,take the intercooler hoses off ,and drive the car ,you will notice that even my grandma on her bike is faster ,.....just not worth it
if you want it "reliable"...leave it stock it wont break!!!
just to give you an idea ,take the intercooler hoses off ,and drive the car ,you will notice that even my grandma on her bike is faster ,.....just not worth it
02-12-04, 06:50 PM
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someone is smoking some serious crack. Yo, you thing you can buy me a ticket to lala land, i want to smack you in the back of the head. What did the car ever do to you??????
02-12-04, 06:58 PM
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Why wouldn't the stock ECU work properly? It works when the car is not under boost, and a N/A car is just a car that never sees boost, eh?
Might have to put some really quiet mufflers on there to mimic the exhaust restriction of the turbos, but look at the bright side: If the stock ECU does run lean, from added airflow from lacking exhaust restriction, you will still not detonate. N/As are fun like that.
I recall reading that the airplane guys scrape the turbos off of the engines and get a decent 220hp from them in N/A form. FD engines have *beeeg* ports.
Might have to put some really quiet mufflers on there to mimic the exhaust restriction of the turbos, but look at the bright side: If the stock ECU does run lean, from added airflow from lacking exhaust restriction, you will still not detonate. N/As are fun like that.
I recall reading that the airplane guys scrape the turbos off of the engines and get a decent 220hp from them in N/A form. FD engines have *beeeg* ports.